| DUers did it to Cindy Sheehan. |
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The attitude that Sheehan is "beyond reproach" and that nobody else's opinion matters, OFTEN expressed here -- in virtually every thread -- is what pissed a lot of people off. Including me. No one could question ANYTHING she did, because she was a grieving mother. She was, in essence, a sacred cow. And sacred cows, frankly, need to be deflated, regardless of ideology, because there is no such thing as a sacred cow.
I admire MOST of what Sheehan did. Not all. I thought she was tactically wrong a couple of times, and said so. I got flamed for it. I never called her names or said anything personally nasty about her, so I don't need to, nor do I, apologize for what I said -- in a democracy, everybody's opinion matters. I thought she was wrong to disrupt the Dem presser last fall. I thought she was wrong to presume to speak for ALL of "We the People" in an open letter calling for impeachment. I thought she was wrong to meet with Chavez. She should have stuck to her core message. And the fact that she put herself out front as the "face of the anti-war movement" was fine, but she went beyond that, and I don't apologize for criticizing that.
So frankly, DUers prompted a lot of the criticism that she got from this place, by putting her on a "beyond reproach" pedestal. And I'm sorry if that offends anybody, but it's the truth and it needs to be said. As I said, I admire her stand on the war. I admire her actions on that issue. When she went beyond that issue, she stepped off the pedestal.
A lot of people now are conflating ANY criticism of Sheehan's methods or tactics, or issues for that matter, with criticism of her personally, and frankly, that's just wrong. If you're going to get out front, you've got to expect that. And when it gets too hot, you get out of the kitchen.
Bake
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| -DUers did it to Cindy Sheehan. |
dbaker41 |
May-30-07 07:35 PM |
#0 |
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Personally |
symbolman |
May-30-07 07:38 PM |
#1 |
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I caught hell also. |
Big Pappa |
May-30-07 07:38 PM |
#2 |
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Hmmm |
Bornaginhooligan |
May-30-07 07:40 PM |
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Sigh. |
philosophie_en_rose |
May-30-07 07:45 PM |
#6 |
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Nobody thinks she's Jesus. |
Bornaginhooligan |
May-30-07 07:46 PM |
#8 |
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That's all she's been doing on this subject |
Bluebear |
May-30-07 07:57 PM |
#21 |
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Perhaps not. But a few people do think she's "more important than King and Parks" |
WildEyedLiberal |
May-30-07 07:58 PM |
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Link it. |
Bornaginhooligan |
May-30-07 07:59 PM |
#25 |
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Here you goooo |
WildEyedLiberal |
May-30-07 08:01 PM |
#30 |
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Explain why she is less important that Parks. |
Bornaginhooligan |
May-30-07 08:03 PM |
#33 |
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Who said I had a complaint about Rosa Parks - or Cindy Sheehan, for that matter? |
WildEyedLiberal |
May-30-07 08:07 PM |
#38 |
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That's right.I said that. |
conscious evolution |
May-30-07 08:34 PM |
#76 |
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"Link it"??? Are you fucking serious? You started a thread basically saying that very thing! |
ComerPerro |
May-30-07 09:40 PM |
#103 |
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Maybe not...but she WAS supposed to be a savior... |
Xenotime |
May-30-07 08:25 PM |
#66 |
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She is mistaken about that. He did not die for nothing. |
patrice |
May-30-07 09:38 PM |
#101 |
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What?@!? |
Xenotime |
May-31-07 12:43 AM |
#140 |
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Casey died trying to save the lives of his fellow soldiers that had been ambushed |
Bentcorner |
May-31-07 01:01 PM |
#173 |
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and evidently was the force behind |
mzteris |
May-31-07 02:55 PM |
#198 |
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Not to nit pick... |
Pacific John |
May-31-07 04:32 PM |
#217 |
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Why does that need to be deflated? And who made you The Deflater? |
jgraz |
May-30-07 09:42 PM |
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I meant exactly what I said. |
dbaker41 |
May-30-07 07:45 PM |
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That doesn't explain your position. |
Bornaginhooligan |
May-30-07 07:47 PM |
#9 |
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I answered your question. |
dbaker41 |
May-30-07 07:52 PM |
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No, you didn't. |
Bornaginhooligan |
May-30-07 07:53 PM |
#16 |
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Try reading the op again - he mentioned his criticisms. n/t |
MH1 |
May-30-07 08:15 PM |
#47 |
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Yeah, but none of those criticisms are valid. |
Bornaginhooligan |
May-30-07 08:17 PM |
#50 |
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You're joking, right? |
MH1 |
May-30-07 08:19 PM |
#55 |
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No, it's not because they disagree with me. |
Bornaginhooligan |
May-30-07 08:20 PM |
#58 |
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"Blatantly dumb"? |
MH1 |
May-30-07 08:22 PM |
#62 |
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Oh, I know how somebody could think it. |
Bornaginhooligan |
May-30-07 08:23 PM |
#64 |
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So because you reject it as "dumb", it's "invalid" and should not be discussed? |
MH1 |
May-30-07 08:27 PM |
#68 |
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No, please, by all means discuss it. |
Bornaginhooligan |
May-30-07 08:28 PM |
#69 |
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It has been discussed, |
MH1 |
May-30-07 08:33 PM |
#74 |
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Nobody ever explained how it wasn't a stupid argument. |
Bornaginhooligan |
May-30-07 08:33 PM |
#75 |
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It's their opinion. |
Elrond Hubbard |
May-30-07 08:45 PM |
#89 |
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That doesn't mean it's not stupid. |
Bornaginhooligan |
May-30-07 08:47 PM |
#91 |
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In that case, yes. |
Elrond Hubbard |
May-30-07 08:49 PM |
#93 |
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That's pretty typical "hooliganism." |
dbaker41 |
May-30-07 09:55 PM |
#106 |
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I admit to not knowing much about the incident where Cindy disrupted a hearing/meeting. |
Elrond Hubbard |
May-30-07 10:00 PM |
#108 |
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I'm still waiting to read what yardstick he uses to measure |
SemperEadem |
May-31-07 01:41 PM |
#181 |
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Let's invoke Godwin's Law for kicks. Hitler never did anything to me |
jpgray |
May-31-07 03:29 AM |
#150 |
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I don't get it... |
banjoterror |
May-31-07 12:59 PM |
#172 |
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Exactly! You got my point exactly. |
dbaker41 |
May-31-07 02:16 PM |
#191 |
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Yes, there are limits. |
sludge man |
May-30-07 08:23 PM |
#63 |
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Welcome to DU but... |
Elrond Hubbard |
May-30-07 09:38 PM |
#102 |
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ABSURD. |
Lisa0825 |
May-31-07 09:46 AM |
#164 |
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Well, Skinner wrote a long essay about that very subject -- and he disagrees with you. |
Buzz Clik |
May-31-07 10:17 PM |
#243 |
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To be fair |
Dorian Gray |
May-30-07 11:40 PM |
#133 |
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You've got balls and perspicacity. And, I agree with you. |
Buzz Clik |
May-31-07 10:15 PM |
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I doubt the poster really meant "And sacred cows, frankly, need to be deflated" |
demobabe |
May-30-07 08:01 PM |
#31 |
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And if you read my OP, you'll see that's exactly what I mean. |
dbaker41 |
May-30-07 10:00 PM |
#107 |
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The DU didn't cause her to retire. |
demobabe |
May-30-07 10:39 PM |
#122 |
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Sorry for the levity -- but the image of sacred cows, deflating... |
IMModerate |
May-31-07 01:32 PM |
#178 |
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All that methane contributes to global warming |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
May-31-07 01:49 PM |
#182 |
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But if she is looking in... |
IMModerate |
May-31-07 03:03 PM |
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Not Sheehan, but the sacred cow |
Cant trust em |
May-31-07 02:44 PM |
#195 |
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Criticism and jealousy are two different things. |
Rex |
May-30-07 07:44 PM |
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Micheal Moore? |
Beacho |
May-30-07 07:47 PM |
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Really? Where, exactly, did I exaggerate? |
dbaker41 |
May-30-07 07:49 PM |
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The sacred cow stuff is bullshit. |
Rex |
May-30-07 07:52 PM |
#13 |
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Are you suggesting he write an open letter about himself called "Good Riddance Attention Whore?" |
philosophie_en_rose |
May-30-07 07:54 PM |
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Naw, I won't waste time on that - you actually think he would make |
Rex |
May-30-07 07:57 PM |
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No, because I have never disparaged Sheehan personally, and would not do so. |
dbaker41 |
May-30-07 08:00 PM |
#29 |
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Well I must disagree with you about the sacred cow stuff |
Rex |
May-30-07 08:06 PM |
#36 |
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it is called "Free Speach".. are you just being thin skinned and/or spoiling for a fight..? |
sam sarrha |
May-30-07 07:58 PM |
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I think some of us... |
banjoterror |
May-31-07 01:08 PM |
#174 |
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the way I see it is this way |
CountAllVotes |
May-30-07 07:44 PM |
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You step in her shoes - then you make the call |
Joe for Clark |
May-30-07 07:49 PM |
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This is exactly what I'm talking about. |
dbaker41 |
May-30-07 07:56 PM |
#19 |
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"My opinion matters as much as anyone else's." |
Bornaginhooligan |
May-30-07 07:58 PM |
#23 |
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Sorry, bake, I think you are resurrecting something that has nothing to do with this. |
Bluebear |
May-30-07 07:59 PM |
#28 |
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My feelings are hardly going to get hurt on an internet discussion board. |
dbaker41 |
May-30-07 10:06 PM |
#111 |
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Yes |
symbolman |
May-30-07 08:06 PM |
#35 |
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Raping? |
RevCheesehead |
May-30-07 08:11 PM |
#41 |
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Merci. nt |
Bluebear |
May-30-07 08:12 PM |
#43 |
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I meant |
symbolman |
May-30-07 08:16 PM |
#49 |
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yeah, that's an important distinction. |
RevCheesehead |
May-30-07 08:21 PM |
#59 |
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Yep |
tammywammy |
May-30-07 08:13 PM |
#45 |
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I wish I could recommend this, thank you for saying what I've not been able to express clearly. |
Marrah_G |
May-30-07 08:14 PM |
#46 |
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I'm going to break this pool cue in half now |
symbolman |
May-30-07 08:19 PM |
#57 |
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Can I have the pointy end? |
Marrah_G |
May-30-07 08:32 PM |
#73 |
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LOL |
symbolman |
May-30-07 08:39 PM |
#81 |
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I promise to give my most intimidating soccer mom stare! |
Marrah_G |
May-30-07 08:45 PM |
#90 |
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Just give me the cue ball. |
dbaker41 |
May-30-07 10:08 PM |
#112 |
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"You are the ones who give her a Bad NAME, RAPING others in her name." |
Bluebear |
May-30-07 08:16 PM |
#48 |
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Mispelled |
symbolman |
May-30-07 08:18 PM |
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I won't "keep it up", as I think your tone is absolutely disgusting. Also you mispelled "misspelled" |
Bluebear |
May-30-07 08:22 PM |
#60 |
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See how I am |
symbolman |
May-30-07 08:25 PM |
#67 |
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But don't you see, you are sounding just as...um, exercised over this? |
Bluebear |
May-30-07 08:29 PM |
#70 |
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I don't like either of them |
symbolman |
May-30-07 08:38 PM |
#79 |
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See, I think you're on to something here |
demobabe |
May-31-07 02:00 PM |
#184 |
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Stop typing! |
Rex |
May-30-07 08:30 PM |
#71 |
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Did you see how I didn't respond to you? |
symbolman |
May-30-07 08:40 PM |
#86 |
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I loved it! |
Rex |
May-30-07 08:47 PM |
#92 |
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Actually... |
banjoterror |
May-31-07 01:14 PM |
#177 |
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Yes, thank you for that important interjection. |
Bluebear |
May-31-07 02:44 PM |
#194 |
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You might want to edit your post. |
RevCheesehead |
May-30-07 08:22 PM |
#61 |
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Great post! nt |
nonconformist |
May-30-07 10:33 PM |
#119 |
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I wholeheartedly agree with you..... |
ClintonTyree |
May-31-07 06:33 PM |
#229 |
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No, it doesn't count - neither does mine. |
Joe for Clark |
May-30-07 08:13 PM |
#44 |
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Yep |
tammywammy |
May-30-07 07:52 PM |
#15 |
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Consider who Cindy Sheehan is...she needs some time away from the spotlight |
zulchzulu |
May-30-07 07:56 PM |
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What do you think drove her -democratic politics?? |
Joe for Clark |
May-30-07 08:44 PM |
#88 |
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I didn't think politics drove her at all.. |
Virginia Dare |
May-31-07 08:49 AM |
#158 |
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You seem to have decided for her |
lwfern |
May-30-07 07:59 PM |
#26 |
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For god's sake - |
Joe for Clark |
May-30-07 08:55 PM |
#96 |
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there's a reason she met with Chavez |
jkg4peace |
May-30-07 10:41 PM |
#124 |
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Maybe that's where the downfall came.. |
Virginia Dare |
May-31-07 08:51 AM |
#160 |
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I think DU got hurt worse than Cindy did |
proud2Blib |
May-30-07 07:59 PM |
#27 |
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I'm curious what the reaction would be if Pelosi quit or Kucinich quit |
jpgray |
May-30-07 08:01 PM |
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Pelosi and Kucinich ran for office. Sheehan was pulled into this over her child's death. |
Bluebear |
May-30-07 08:07 PM |
#37 |
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She chose to speak out. Doubtless Pelosi or Kucinich had formative experiences that pushed them too |
jpgray |
May-30-07 08:08 PM |
#40 |
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If Bush lost a son in Iraq, he still would have been a politician going into it. |
Bluebear |
May-30-07 08:12 PM |
#42 |
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I don't agree she's an attention whore, and I think such comments are in bad taste |
jpgray |
May-30-07 08:17 PM |
#51 |
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I can agree with that. nt |
Bluebear |
May-30-07 08:18 PM |
#52 |
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Pulled into this? No, she made a choice. |
dbaker41 |
May-30-07 10:13 PM |
#114 |
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it's an interesting point of view |
Neecy |
May-30-07 08:06 PM |
#34 |
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I think there is a bit of... |
LanternWaste |
May-31-07 12:22 PM |
#168 |
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"in a democracy, everybody's opinion matters" Not even here |
WiseButAngrySara |
May-30-07 08:08 PM |
#39 |
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Nope. Not me. |
dbaker41 |
May-30-07 10:16 PM |
#115 |
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Self-deception is powerful stuff. |
Everybody |
May-30-07 08:19 PM |
#54 |
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The criticism towards her |
Generator |
May-30-07 08:19 PM |
#56 |
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AMEN. |
BeHereNow |
May-30-07 08:31 PM |
#72 |
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And I "Amen" your "Amen." |
RevCheesehead |
May-30-07 08:34 PM |
#77 |
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You have put your finger directly upon the problem. All of this is based |
Dhalgren |
May-30-07 08:39 PM |
#80 |
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On our own. Exactly. |
BeHereNow |
May-30-07 08:56 PM |
#98 |
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thank you! and |
G_j |
May-31-07 02:15 PM |
#190 |
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I've said it before.. much of what was said was during flamewars |
nini |
May-30-07 08:25 PM |
#65 |
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so people flamed because they were't "allowed" to discuss Cindy in a civil manner.... |
bettyellen |
May-30-07 08:55 PM |
#97 |
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Read my comments again |
nini |
May-31-07 11:21 AM |
#165 |
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"99% of the heated words would ever have come out if dialog and discussion were allowed " |
bettyellen |
May-31-07 04:42 PM |
#221 |
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Self-criticism is an essential part of all *real* Revolutions. nm |
patrice |
May-30-07 08:38 PM |
#78 |
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I don't believe in toeing lines. I believe in asking questions and searching for the reality. |
HypnoToad |
May-30-07 08:39 PM |
#82 |
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have I told you lately |
mzteris |
May-31-07 03:09 PM |
#203 |
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Maybe this site needs to change its name? |
idgiehkt |
May-30-07 08:40 PM |
#83 |
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It won't hurt DU |
LBJDemocrat |
May-30-07 08:55 PM |
#95 |
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Time will tell... |
idgiehkt |
May-30-07 09:01 PM |
#100 |
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I have to argue, DU'ers did nothing to Cindy. Nothing. |
Decruiter |
May-30-07 08:40 PM |
#84 |
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"DU did nothing to Cindy but support Cindy" - - that is not accurate |
Bluebear |
May-30-07 09:41 PM |
#104 |
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Well than criticize me as well, I'm human |
bonito |
May-30-07 08:40 PM |
#85 |
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Thank you for posting this!! |
Elrond Hubbard |
May-30-07 08:41 PM |
#87 |
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I'd be disappointed if certain hooligans didn't flame me. |
dbaker41 |
May-30-07 10:22 PM |
#116 |
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dbake, I agree with your sentiment |
mconvente |
May-31-07 01:38 PM |
#180 |
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I agree with you. |
LBJDemocrat |
May-30-07 08:53 PM |
#94 |
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Thank You! My feelings exactly! K & R nt |
Quixote1818 |
May-30-07 09:01 PM |
#99 |
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Uh oh...see what you started? |
NastyRiffraff |
May-30-07 10:03 PM |
#109 |
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Couldn't agree more n/t |
cynatnite |
May-30-07 10:05 PM |
#110 |
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You and your damn reason |
ZombyWoof |
May-30-07 10:12 PM |
#113 |
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Thanks! Now how about some damn Zomby Coffee!!!! |
dbaker41 |
May-30-07 10:24 PM |
#117 |
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WHAT??? |
ZombyWoof |
May-30-07 10:40 PM |
#123 |
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Then serve it up here, dammit! No pedestal required, but I got a big ol' mug! |
dbaker41 |
May-30-07 10:46 PM |
#125 |
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Why do you feel entitled to decide what Cindy Sheehan should |
sfexpat2000 |
May-30-07 10:25 PM |
#118 |
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It's called having an option on what she does... |
cynatnite |
May-30-07 10:34 PM |
#120 |
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As far as I know, Cindy hasn't optioned her behavior out to anyone. |
sfexpat2000 |
May-30-07 11:03 PM |
#127 |
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I just realized I screwed up my post....I meant opinion... |
cynatnite |
May-31-07 05:07 PM |
#222 |
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I don't presume to decide what she should or shoudn't do. |
dbaker41 |
May-30-07 10:39 PM |
#121 |
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This is what I don't understand. Cindy Sheehan never signed |
sfexpat2000 |
May-30-07 11:09 PM |
#128 |
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She entered the political arena, and it's hardball there. |
dbaker41 |
May-30-07 11:27 PM |
#131 |
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Well, I guess from different vantage points, we both don't agree |
sfexpat2000 |
May-30-07 11:30 PM |
#132 |
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Agreed! |
dbaker41 |
May-31-07 12:08 AM |
#137 |
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So in essence what you are saying is that |
MadHound |
May-30-07 10:54 PM |
#126 |
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It's a free forum, within certain bounds set by the moderators |
dbaker41 |
May-30-07 11:14 PM |
#130 |
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Yes, it is a free forum |
MadHound |
May-31-07 06:51 AM |
#152 |
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Well, I'm going to disagree |
Downtown Hound |
May-30-07 11:13 PM |
#129 |
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It didn't start with vile name calling. |
dbaker41 |
May-30-07 11:40 PM |
#134 |
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Yes, it did start with vile name calling |
Downtown Hound |
May-30-07 11:59 PM |
#135 |
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I never claimed to be a martyr. |
dbaker41 |
May-31-07 12:06 AM |
#136 |
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No, you never claimed to be a martyr, but you're acting like one |
Downtown Hound |
May-31-07 12:29 AM |
#139 |
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This was probably the best post I read this week. |
Balbus |
May-31-07 12:12 AM |
#138 |
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Poor Cindy! |
Swamp Rat |
May-31-07 01:06 AM |
#141 |
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Pointing out imperfections has some value . . . |
snot |
May-31-07 01:17 AM |
#142 |
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First and Foremost-Cindy Sheehan deserves TOTAL respect from everyone here on DU. |
TheGoldenRule |
May-31-07 02:15 AM |
#143 |
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Sorry, but tragic personal events give no one a pass with regard to criticism |
jpgray |
May-31-07 02:18 AM |
#144 |
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I can't stand what was done to Cindy. |
Cougar Brenneman |
May-31-07 03:02 AM |
#145 |
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You realize you're generalizing about an entire community based on one post by one person |
jpgray |
May-31-07 03:07 AM |
#146 |
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It wasn't just one person |
proud2Blib |
May-31-07 02:13 PM |
#189 |
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I don't love Cindy, and I was never nasty with hatred for her either. |
Elrond Hubbard |
May-31-07 04:05 PM |
#211 |
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No it wasn't and no you weren't |
proud2Blib |
May-31-07 10:16 PM |
#242 |
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Buh-Bye |
Marrah_G |
May-31-07 07:48 AM |
#153 |
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And, I think, that is the problem |
Tekla West |
May-31-07 12:46 PM |
#169 |
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It's a discussion board. We have differing opinions. |
LittleClarkie |
May-31-07 03:27 AM |
#148 |
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So it's "fair game" to kick someone when they are down-eh? |
TheGoldenRule |
May-31-07 09:12 AM |
#162 |
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Oh yeah, and when they're not looking too |
LittleClarkie |
May-31-07 01:38 PM |
#179 |
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Would everyone reach the same to a freeper mom losing her child? Don't be silly... |
Elrond Hubbard |
May-31-07 04:08 PM |
#212 |
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It is not up to you to dictate such things or to tell DUers what they should think and who they |
Elrond Hubbard |
May-31-07 05:36 AM |
#151 |
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Oh, but I'm just expressing my opinion-just like the OP. |
TheGoldenRule |
May-31-07 09:17 AM |
#163 |
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You didn't start the thread but you DID tell people how they should think |
Elrond Hubbard |
May-31-07 03:53 PM |
#209 |
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You. Just. Proved. My. Point. |
dbaker41 |
May-31-07 11:23 AM |
#166 |
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What-that you like to kick people when they are down? |
TheGoldenRule |
May-31-07 12:53 PM |
#171 |
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I agree. |
AtomicKitten |
May-31-07 03:23 AM |
#147 |
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She was indeed the face of the movement then |
LittleClarkie |
May-31-07 03:28 AM |
#149 |
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I agree... |
Virginia Dare |
May-31-07 08:56 AM |
#161 |
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DU has already begun |
AtomicKitten |
May-31-07 11:56 AM |
#167 |
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I supported her general message but I stopped supporting her after her hissy fit |
Mike Daniels |
May-31-07 08:00 AM |
#154 |
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sexist bullshit duly noted. |
lwfern |
May-31-07 08:37 AM |
#155 |
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What? |
proud2Blib |
May-31-07 08:43 AM |
#156 |
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No, DU had nothing to do with it... |
Virginia Dare |
May-31-07 08:44 AM |
#157 |
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I feel the same way as Obama. |
Sentinel Chicken |
May-31-07 08:49 AM |
#159 |
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I agree |
emilyg |
May-31-07 12:49 PM |
#170 |
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With all due respect... |
19jet54 |
May-31-07 01:11 PM |
#175 |
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That's a load of crap... |
dogday |
May-31-07 01:11 PM |
#176 |
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Its hard to be a celebrity and a celebrity on the left is no exception. |
Pyrzqxgl |
May-31-07 01:58 PM |
#183 |
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I am confused the majority of posters supported Cindy... |
cooolandrew |
May-31-07 02:05 PM |
#185 |
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Bake, she didn't get her son killed so she could become popular. |
MethuenProgressive |
May-31-07 02:08 PM |
#186 |
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Where in the HELL did I suggest that???? |
dbaker41 |
May-31-07 02:32 PM |
#192 |
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Admins, lock this crap, let Cindy take a break already. |
Javaman |
May-31-07 02:10 PM |
#187 |
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I agree... |
19jet54 |
May-31-07 02:41 PM |
#193 |
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"A fanatic is a person who will not change their mind, and won't change the subject." |
MethuenProgressive |
May-31-07 02:48 PM |
#197 |
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You totally misunderstand? |
19jet54 |
May-31-07 03:00 PM |
#200 |
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Man, are you confused! |
MethuenProgressive |
May-31-07 04:15 PM |
#213 |
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I assume this is a covert operation with plausible deny-ability? |
19jet54 |
May-31-07 04:32 PM |
#218 |
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There's a DU sub-set who can't stop dancing on Casey's...er, Cindy's grave. |
MethuenProgressive |
May-31-07 02:46 PM |
#196 |
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Agreed |
racaulk |
May-31-07 03:02 PM |
#201 |
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Free speech. Free speech. Got it yet? |
Elrond Hubbard |
May-31-07 04:26 PM |
#214 |
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Free Hate Speech, too? |
MethuenProgressive |
May-31-07 04:33 PM |
#219 |
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Hate speech is protected speech, even though it is vile. |
Elrond Hubbard |
May-31-07 05:57 PM |
#225 |
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Personally, I'd probably go completely beserk if I had a kid killed in that war. |
kerry-is-my-prez |
May-31-07 02:10 PM |
#188 |
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agreed. i said this on willpitts thread a few days ago. |
lionesspriyanka |
May-31-07 02:56 PM |
#199 |
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hey pri! good to see you here =) |
Elrond Hubbard |
May-31-07 04:30 PM |
#216 |
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hi you! |
lionesspriyanka |
May-31-07 08:40 PM |
#235 |
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I crawled out from under my rock. |
Elrond Hubbard |
May-31-07 10:03 PM |
#238 |
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Well, her Farewell Tour is going on longer than |
itsrobert |
May-31-07 03:12 PM |
#204 |
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Everything else aside, I remember Naomi Judd's farewell tour. |
Bluebear |
May-31-07 03:14 PM |
#205 |
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Exactly, Cindy's going to break Naomi's record n/t |
itsrobert |
May-31-07 03:15 PM |
#206 |
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Come on now! Naomi Judd has nothing on Cher! |
racaulk |
May-31-07 03:37 PM |
#207 |
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People should quit trying to define what others think...and then speak for them. |
Tigress DEM |
May-31-07 03:52 PM |
#208 |
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Attention all heroes |
shallowthroat |
May-31-07 05:50 PM |
#224 |
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the fanatical "supporters" |
mzteris |
May-31-07 04:01 PM |
#210 |
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the fanatical "haters" |
MethuenProgressive |
May-31-07 04:30 PM |
#215 |
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Who said they HATED Sheehan? |
nini |
May-31-07 06:35 PM |
#230 |
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Many people in this thread are doing exactly that. |
Elrond Hubbard |
May-31-07 07:12 PM |
#233 |
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What's really funny is they're proving the OP's point |
nini |
May-31-07 09:27 PM |
#237 |
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It's also really sad. |
Elrond Hubbard |
May-31-07 10:03 PM |
#239 |
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BS - there are *maybe* on or two |
mzteris |
May-31-07 10:13 PM |
#240 |
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No no one is free from criticism, including those who criticize |
MN Against Bush |
May-31-07 04:37 PM |
#220 |
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Right |
Pacific John |
May-31-07 05:43 PM |
#223 |
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True. |
Elrond Hubbard |
May-31-07 06:01 PM |
#226 |
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wow |
sniffa |
May-31-07 06:02 PM |
#227 |
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Holy shit.. |
BobRossi |
May-31-07 06:10 PM |
#228 |
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this sounds about like the attack coulter did on the 9/11 widows. |
glowing |
May-31-07 06:36 PM |
#231 |
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In what way? |
Elrond Hubbard |
May-31-07 07:11 PM |
#232 |
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He didn't do it so distastefully, but he is agreeing to the same |
glowing |
May-31-07 11:27 PM |
#244 |
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"I didn't do it" -- but it's their fault anyway....??? |
defendandprotect |
May-31-07 07:53 PM |
#234 |
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Well, I was irritated that any criticism of Cindy Sheehan... |
cynatnite |
May-31-07 08:44 PM |
#236 |
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There has been much vitriol on both sides... |
sjbech |
Jun-01-07 01:22 AM |
#245 |