RoyGBiv
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Thu Jun-17-10 01:41 AM
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I wonder how much the relative calm of this speech was related to the meeting with BP today. Was a quid pro quo involved? I don't rip you to shreds right now, and you do what I'm telling you to do without forcing it down your throat ...
Someone on GD posted a message comparing this speech and Obama's general approach to corporations in general to Kennedy's dealings with the steel industry raising prices after Kennedy had gone to bat for them previously. I think it was an apt criticism generally if not specifically in the context given. However, after the events of yesterday, I'm left wondering whether Obama and Kennedy did take similar stances with a different approach. Then too, during the so-called steel crisis, Kennedy had actually done a lot of "behind the scenes" work before it came to a head and produced his public smack down.
Obama, being an intelligent person, would know of the differences in the circumstances involving the two scenarios. Kennedy had a basically friendly press, for one, and that was a big deal with how things turned out. The press was largely responsible for the public backing his line in the sand. With the current state of the press, Obama can count on a very large and loud contingent of the press framing anything he says or does negatively, which leads one to question just how deeply Obama can get into a one-on-one with a major industry.
I'm not sure, but I think Obama's somewhat tepid remarks may be at least partially a recognition that he's got to take a different approach than Kennedy had the luxury of taking, and he's pretty much having to wing it to try to find the right one.
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| -I didn't like the speech |
grantcart |
Jun-15-10 11:28 PM |
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Yes, that's okay.. I did and here's why.. |
Cha |
Jun-16-10 12:15 AM |
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I think tonight was the first pitch |
sandnsea |
Jun-16-10 12:20 AM |
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I thought it was so-so. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Jun-16-10 06:12 AM |
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The problem with this country is that every incident seems to spark |
treestar |
Jun-16-10 07:48 AM |
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I think the speech was as much about... |
yowzayowzayowza |
Jun-16-10 08:34 AM |
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Maybe he will present |
POAS |
Jun-16-10 08:58 AM |
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Methinkz $20B bought some pulled punches. |
yowzayowzayowza |
Jun-16-10 01:44 PM |
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Hope he also let them know |
POAS |
Jun-16-10 03:01 PM |
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Float like a butterfly and collect checks from BP. |
yowzayowzayowza |
Jun-16-10 03:25 PM |
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:) nt |
quiet.american |
Jun-16-10 03:27 PM |
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!... |
POAS |
Jun-16-10 04:10 PM |
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I was surprised the speech ... |
yowzayowzayowza |
Jun-16-10 05:04 PM |
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To continue the boxing |
POAS |
Jun-16-10 05:24 PM |
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Well, I liked it b/c it served it's purpose. He focused on the |
Fire1 |
Jun-16-10 09:26 AM |
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And, I think one of its purposes |
Cha |
Jun-16-10 10:41 AM |
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Thanks grantcart and other posters |
goclark |
Jun-16-10 10:50 AM |
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Hey, Grantcart, read your journal post -- |
quiet.american |
Jun-16-10 12:41 PM |
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Thanks for this detailed response, QA.. |
Cha |
Jun-16-10 12:46 PM |
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The problem isn't the policy provisions -its mobilizing the country to a specific |
grantcart |
Jun-16-10 01:58 PM |
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Yeah, given the current environment, I wonder if JFK's "to the moon" speech would've worked today |
quiet.american |
Jun-16-10 02:51 PM |
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"A branding czar" ! He sure got us a good Pay Czar.. |
Cha |
Jun-16-10 03:01 PM |
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Hello, Cha - I certainly have personal evidence of that. |
quiet.american |
Jun-16-10 03:10 PM |
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OMGoodness! |
Cha |
Jun-16-10 03:15 PM |
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Thanks for the hug! |
quiet.american |
Jun-16-10 03:20 PM |
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Thanks for more |
Cha |
Jun-16-10 03:31 PM |
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It sure was, Cha.... |
quiet.american |
Jun-16-10 03:39 PM |
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Yeah, it was gag reflex time with ghouliani |
Cha |
Jun-16-10 04:41 PM |
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Hello! How could I have even forgotten about that "genius" Giuliani. |
quiet.american |
Jun-16-10 05:23 PM |
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See, if this sort of critical post was the norm on DU, there would be no problems here |
WeDidIt |
Jun-16-10 03:04 PM |
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My thoughts ... |
Born_A_Truman |
Jun-16-10 03:14 PM |
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Except that Obama is absolutely capable of blowing the roof off |
grantcart |
Jun-17-10 01:29 AM |
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I wonder ... |
RoyGBiv |
Jun-17-10 01:41 AM |
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Well, he did have success with BP yesterday |
Cha |
Jun-17-10 12:15 PM |
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Rachel didn't like the speech either… |
TicketyBoo |
Jun-17-10 09:08 AM |
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Honestly? |
ismnotwasm |
Jun-17-10 01:04 PM |
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