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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 01:41 AM
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32. I wonder ...

I wonder how much the relative calm of this speech was related to the meeting with BP today. Was a quid pro quo involved? I don't rip you to shreds right now, and you do what I'm telling you to do without forcing it down your throat ...

Someone on GD posted a message comparing this speech and Obama's general approach to corporations in general to Kennedy's dealings with the steel industry raising prices after Kennedy had gone to bat for them previously. I think it was an apt criticism generally if not specifically in the context given. However, after the events of yesterday, I'm left wondering whether Obama and Kennedy did take similar stances with a different approach. Then too, during the so-called steel crisis, Kennedy had actually done a lot of "behind the scenes" work before it came to a head and produced his public smack down.

Obama, being an intelligent person, would know of the differences in the circumstances involving the two scenarios. Kennedy had a basically friendly press, for one, and that was a big deal with how things turned out. The press was largely responsible for the public backing his line in the sand. With the current state of the press, Obama can count on a very large and loud contingent of the press framing anything he says or does negatively, which leads one to question just how deeply Obama can get into a one-on-one with a major industry.

I'm not sure, but I think Obama's somewhat tepid remarks may be at least partially a recognition that he's got to take a different approach than Kennedy had the luxury of taking, and he's pretty much having to wing it to try to find the right one.

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  -I didn't like the speech grantcart  Jun-15-10 11:28 PM   #0 
  - Yes, that's okay.. I did and here's why..  Cha   Jun-16-10 12:15 AM   #1 
  - I think tonight was the first pitch  sandnsea   Jun-16-10 12:20 AM   #2 
  - I thought it was so-so.  SemiCharmedQuark   Jun-16-10 06:12 AM   #3 
  - The problem with this country is that every incident seems to spark  treestar   Jun-16-10 07:48 AM   #4 
  - I think the speech was as much about...  yowzayowzayowza   Jun-16-10 08:34 AM   #5 
  - Maybe he will present  POAS   Jun-16-10 08:58 AM   #6 
     - Methinkz $20B bought some pulled punches.  yowzayowzayowza   Jun-16-10 01:44 PM   #12 
        - Hope he also let them know  POAS   Jun-16-10 03:01 PM   #16 
           - Float like a butterfly and collect checks from BP.  yowzayowzayowza   Jun-16-10 03:25 PM   #22 
              - :) nt  quiet.american   Jun-16-10 03:27 PM   #23 
              - !...  POAS   Jun-16-10 04:10 PM   #26 
                 - I was surprised the speech ...  yowzayowzayowza   Jun-16-10 05:04 PM   #28 
                    - To continue the boxing  POAS   Jun-16-10 05:24 PM   #30 
  - Well, I liked it b/c it served it's purpose. He focused on the  Fire1   Jun-16-10 09:26 AM   #7 
  - And, I think one of its purposes  Cha   Jun-16-10 10:41 AM   #8 
  - Thanks grantcart and other posters  goclark   Jun-16-10 10:50 AM   #9 
  - Hey, Grantcart, read your journal post --  quiet.american   Jun-16-10 12:41 PM   #10 
  - Thanks for this detailed response, QA..  Cha   Jun-16-10 12:46 PM   #11 
  - The problem isn't the policy provisions -its mobilizing the country to a specific  grantcart   Jun-16-10 01:58 PM   #13 
     - Yeah, given the current environment, I wonder if JFK's "to the moon" speech would've worked today  quiet.american   Jun-16-10 02:51 PM   #14 
        - "A branding czar" ! He sure got us a good Pay Czar..  Cha   Jun-16-10 03:01 PM   #15 
           - Hello, Cha - I certainly have personal evidence of that.  quiet.american   Jun-16-10 03:10 PM   #18 
              - OMGoodness!  Cha   Jun-16-10 03:15 PM   #20 
                 - Thanks for the hug!  quiet.american   Jun-16-10 03:20 PM   #21 
                    - Thanks for more  Cha   Jun-16-10 03:31 PM   #24 
                       - It sure was, Cha....  quiet.american   Jun-16-10 03:39 PM   #25 
                          - Yeah, it was gag reflex time with ghouliani  Cha   Jun-16-10 04:41 PM   #27 
                             - Hello! How could I have even forgotten about that "genius" Giuliani.  quiet.american   Jun-16-10 05:23 PM   #29 
  - See, if this sort of critical post was the norm on DU, there would be no problems here  WeDidIt   Jun-16-10 03:04 PM   #17 
  - My thoughts ...  Born_A_Truman   Jun-16-10 03:14 PM   #19 
  - Except that Obama is absolutely capable of blowing the roof off  grantcart   Jun-17-10 01:29 AM   #31 
     - I wonder ...  RoyGBiv   Jun-17-10 01:41 AM   #32 
        - Well, he did have success with BP yesterday  Cha   Jun-17-10 12:15 PM   #34 
  - Rachel didn't like the speech either…  TicketyBoo   Jun-17-10 09:08 AM   #33 
  - Honestly?  ismnotwasm   Jun-17-10 01:04 PM   #35 
 

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