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Hestia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 07:06 PM
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101. My ire towards MoveOn.org is they were part of the group that took public option of healthcare
off the table. When they met with OFA early in the administration, they refused to hear anything about the public option. That stopped my donations.
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  -Chris Hedges: "This one could take them all down Skip_In_Boulder  Oct-18-11 06:24 PM   #0 
  - why does chris hedges say that moveon.org is reprehensible?  yodermon   Oct-18-11 06:50 PM   #1 
  - Hedges says  Iwillnevergiveup   Oct-18-11 07:23 PM   #6 
  - exactly.. I realized what MoveOn was all about back in 2004, absolutely worthless & co-opted  2banon   Oct-18-11 09:32 PM   #18 
  - Not really, Moveon spent tens of millions in 2008... and its leadership is 150% liberal...  SadPanda   Oct-18-11 11:42 PM   #33 
     - MoveOn is not a democratic group. It's two rich people and their opinions.  EFerrari   Oct-19-11 01:30 AM   #40 
     - I tend to agree. They've done some good, but their meet ups seem  mistertrickster   Oct-19-11 12:01 PM   #83 
     - Yep  MissDeeds   Oct-19-11 05:56 PM   #99 
     - That's what he is saying about "liberals".  Scruffy1   Oct-19-11 04:12 PM   #94 
  - agree n/t  bluetexas   Oct-19-11 12:28 AM   #36 
  - I don't know why he says that, it's a very good question...  Xtraneous   Oct-18-11 10:06 PM   #25 
  - MoveOn is trying to co-opt OWS  Jim_Shorts   Oct-18-11 10:20 PM   #27 
  - VERY important article. Thanks. nt  Remember Me   Oct-18-11 11:01 PM   #29 
  - some involved with OWS disagree with Hedges re: MoveOn.org  SleeplessinSoCal   Oct-18-11 11:31 PM   #31 
  - In 2004, after I gave them money, a MoveOn volunteer was calling my house semi-daily  zinnisking   Oct-19-11 07:55 AM   #53 
  - agree, Hedges is about Hedges nt  flamingdem   Oct-19-11 12:29 PM   #87 
     - Hedges is a brilliant, generous, principled man. It's okay if he disagrees with us on some points.  Overseas   Oct-20-11 09:32 PM   #113 
  - This article explains beautifully what we are up against.  stillrockin   Oct-19-11 06:57 AM   #49 
  - So do the comments to the OP - so many defending the status quo. nt  TBF   Oct-19-11 10:36 AM   #77 
  - MoveOn is NOT trying to co-opt this at all  Slit Skirt   Oct-19-11 07:58 AM   #54 
  - I don't know about that...  cui bono   Oct-19-11 09:50 AM   #65 
     - how is that coopting?  Slit Skirt   Oct-19-11 11:13 PM   #103 
        - Did you read the whole article?  cui bono   Oct-20-11 11:14 AM   #107 
  - excellent article  bread_and_roses   Oct-19-11 08:19 AM   #57 
  - This is from that article, and sums it up nicely.  vanbean   Oct-19-11 09:14 AM   #61 
  - That article needs its own OP. Will you please do that?  cui bono   Oct-19-11 09:45 AM   #64 
  - Feel free, I'm not an expert on MoveOn  Jim_Shorts   Oct-19-11 10:27 AM   #75 
  - watch out for conquer and divide strategies....  Slit Skirt   Oct-19-11 11:16 PM   #104 
     - Chris Hedges is hardly one who would try to conquer and divide.  cui bono   Oct-20-11 11:16 AM   #108 
  - Excellent article....very glad you shared it.  dixiegrrrrl   Oct-19-11 12:26 PM   #86 
  - The movement, however it unfolds, has to be a synthesis  cachukis   Oct-19-11 05:00 PM   #96 
     - Wooeee, you must be a microbiologist in real life  Jim_Shorts   Oct-19-11 06:04 PM   #100 
  - They traded action for access.  Fuddnik   Oct-19-11 09:00 AM   #59 
  - Read this  Hotler   Oct-19-11 02:06 PM   #92 
  - There's no ''could'' about it Chris.....  DeSwiss   Oct-18-11 07:09 PM   #2 
  - Priceless.  kayakjohnny   Oct-18-11 07:13 PM   #3 
  - God I hope there is a chance that he is right!  jimlup   Oct-18-11 07:20 PM   #4 
  - Well with the extreme whipsawing of political fervor  SparkyOR   Oct-18-11 08:38 PM   #15 
  - Well if so then ...  jimlup   Oct-18-11 08:50 PM   #16 
  - GOP win, not going to happen  Skip_In_Boulder   Oct-18-11 09:33 PM   #19 
  - Full Nazi?  Enthusiast   Oct-19-11 04:31 AM   #44 
     - Thanks for the memory..  russspeakeasy   Oct-19-11 11:00 AM   #78 
  - they're all owned.  2banon   Oct-18-11 09:37 PM   #22 
  - Give me an example of "extreme whipsawing of political fervor", please. nm  rhett o rick   Oct-18-11 11:32 PM   #32 
  - not hardly  SemperEadem   Oct-19-11 05:23 AM   #46 
  - Like he says, these things create an unpredictable centrifugal force...  Xtraneous   Oct-18-11 10:12 PM   #26 
  - If this movement can get the police officers on their side  Hutzpa   Oct-19-11 12:30 AM   #37 
  - OWS is our only hope.  Enthusiast   Oct-19-11 04:29 AM   #43 
     - The "Democrats" are typical politicians..They are for themselves  russspeakeasy   Oct-19-11 11:04 AM   #79 
  - I love all  femrap   Oct-18-11 07:22 PM   #5 
  - Beautiful.  Danse   Oct-18-11 07:25 PM   #7 
     - No kidding....I've been  femrap   Oct-19-11 09:22 AM   #62 
  - We have been voting for people to represent us...  socialindependocrat   Oct-18-11 07:35 PM   #8 
  - +1 Yes, let's reclaim the American dream but could we please hurry up....  snappyturtle   Oct-19-11 09:56 AM   #66 
  - The elections are coming and  socialindependocrat   Oct-19-11 11:53 AM   #82 
  - If they try to teach this in high school, their funds would be cut.  russspeakeasy   Oct-19-11 11:07 AM   #80 
  - He is so authentic, so wise and so RIGHT...  CoffeeCat   Oct-18-11 07:41 PM   #9 
  - + 1  rbnyc   Oct-18-11 07:58 PM   #11 
  - Chris Hedges has provided an historical fact that all social  lumpy   Oct-19-11 01:17 PM   #91 
  - They've got to win now or else.  sulphurdunn   Oct-18-11 07:44 PM   #10 
  - I think there is no turning back with this now.  Voice for Peace   Oct-18-11 08:25 PM   #14 
  - "It's not about me anymore. It's about the next generation. Our children.".  chill_wind   Oct-18-11 08:07 PM   #12 
  - To call MoveOn "reprehensible" is extreme. And if OWS doesn't figure out a way to affect real change  RBInMaine   Oct-18-11 08:20 PM   #13 
  - Wake up!  Skip_In_Boulder   Oct-18-11 09:34 PM   #20 
  - Blood was shed in the streets for all those movements to get noticed by the electorate.  bengalherder   Oct-18-11 09:35 PM   #21 
  - Great Point!!!  vanbean   Oct-19-11 10:20 AM   #72 
  - They have real goals. How long did it take all those movements  sabrina 1   Oct-19-11 05:47 AM   #47 
  - Politicians don't pay attention to social movements or run on their issues -until they have gained  Douglas Carpenter   Oct-19-11 07:07 AM   #50 
  - Yes, it is wrong to call MoveOn irrehensible  Slit Skirt   Oct-19-11 08:06 AM   #55 
  - "Irrehensible?"  Jackpine Radical   Oct-19-11 10:14 AM   #67 
  - Thanks for the morning laugh.  vanbean   Oct-19-11 10:23 AM   #74 
  - Chris Hedges isn't part of the 1%. He's not trying to create a circular firing squad.  cui bono   Oct-19-11 10:14 AM   #68 
  - As long as Moveon stays in the background  tavalon   Oct-19-11 10:17 AM   #69 
     - Beautiful, passionate voice.  Kaleko   Oct-20-11 03:50 AM   #105 
     - Thank you  tavalon   Oct-20-11 07:59 AM   #106 
     - Very well said. Thank you. n/t  cui bono   Oct-20-11 06:18 PM   #110 
  - Exactly right. King marched to get legislation passed . . . not just to march. nt  mistertrickster   Oct-19-11 12:10 PM   #84 
  - Agree. I'm a MoveOn.org member and chair of my local DTC AND  Larkspur   Oct-19-11 12:59 PM   #89 
  - It's satisfying to see him in his element as it comes to fruition.  Gregorian   Oct-18-11 08:50 PM   #17 
  - Great! I love Chris Hedges.  UnrepentantLiberal   Oct-18-11 09:40 PM   #23 
  - yes,,everything he said ..and the emotion as well..i'm right there in my gut feeling about this.  xiamiam   Oct-18-11 10:04 PM   #24 
  - Very eloquent and moving. How I hope he is right. REC. nt  bertman   Oct-18-11 10:51 PM   #28 
  - K & R! Yeah baby!  lonestarnot   Oct-18-11 11:04 PM   #30 
  - Don't give two shits what he says about MoveOn...  Modern_Matthew   Oct-18-11 11:51 PM   #34 
  - Stay Strong  pmorlan1   Oct-19-11 12:18 AM   #35 
  - Thank you... K&R  midnight   Oct-19-11 12:53 AM   #38 
  - Anyone else noticing how the "We Are the 99%!" chant syncs up with  snot   Oct-19-11 01:14 AM   #39 
  - Seeing him smile gives me hope.  Fokker Trip   Oct-19-11 02:34 AM   #41 
  - Like Chis, I could cry.  Enthusiast   Oct-19-11 04:19 AM   #42 
  - the foot soldiers of the elite  lovuian   Oct-19-11 05:18 AM   #45 
  - OWS will need the Democratic Party to...  SkyDaddy7   Oct-19-11 06:40 AM   #48 
  - If this goes as I hope, the OWS movement will swallow the Democratic Party whole. n/t  Scuba   Oct-19-11 07:16 AM   #51 
  - Sure. So we can elect Ds like Cuomo - who'd rather lay off teachers  bread_and_roses   Oct-19-11 08:31 AM   #58 
  - BIngo.  Chan790   Oct-19-11 09:09 AM   #60 
  - The Democratic Party must be willing to subvert itself to the collective  tavalon   Oct-19-11 10:34 AM   #76 
     - It does not matter how amny we have if...  SkyDaddy7   Oct-19-11 02:11 PM   #93 
        - We haven't had their ear or their votes in decades  tavalon   Oct-19-11 07:11 PM   #102 
  - Mr Hedges Says An Important Thing About Leadership:  mntleo2   Oct-19-11 07:42 AM   #52 
  - Amen to what you said, Cat.  dixiegrrrrl   Oct-19-11 12:41 PM   #88 
  - Well said. Thank you!  Overseas   Oct-20-11 09:11 PM   #111 
  - Powerful. I agree with everything he said.  graywarrior   Oct-19-11 08:17 AM   #56 
  - A new day is here, as cynical as everyone has become, that  mother earth   Oct-19-11 09:35 AM   #63 
  - thank you for posting this  LittleGirl   Oct-19-11 10:17 AM   #70 
  - Excellent information. OWS faces a threat of being co-opted...  lib2DaBone   Oct-19-11 10:19 AM   #71 
  - By and large, I buy what he's selling  dadzilla   Oct-19-11 10:20 AM   #73 
  - It's more like the majority stayed passive until it was their livelihoods and homes on the line.  pam4water   Oct-19-11 11:25 AM   #81 
  - You, Chris, helped to inform us, thank you!  Dont call me Shirley   Oct-19-11 12:12 PM   #85 
  - Wow  sonias   Oct-19-11 01:13 PM   #90 
  - Simply LOVELY!  yoyossarian   Oct-19-11 04:35 PM   #95 
  - K&R n/t  myrna minx   Oct-19-11 05:01 PM   #97 
  - Excellent comments by Chris Hedges  MissDeeds   Oct-19-11 05:49 PM   #98 
  - My ire towards MoveOn.org is they were part of the group that took public option of healthcare  Hestia   Oct-19-11 07:06 PM   #101 
  - Hedges is really great!  MadAsHellInAmerica   Oct-20-11 12:35 PM   #109 
  - Really beautiful. So well said. I share his admiration for the new style of democracy.  Overseas   Oct-20-11 09:29 PM   #112 
  - A kick for Hedges.  Kaleko   Oct-21-11 07:28 PM   #114 
  - Very good - except he's wrong about unions  CHOCOLATMIMOSA   Oct-21-11 10:34 PM   #115 
  - kick  Quixote1818   Oct-23-11 05:19 PM   #116 
 

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