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masmdu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 08:15 AM
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23. **** I DON"T Like this...I UN-REC this ...Here is why...(Hear me out on this please) ****
Edited on Wed Oct-12-11 08:55 AM by masmdu
FIRST: I whole-heartedly support OWS and believe money to have corrupted our govt. Further, I believe the Occupy movement to be the correct way to effect change as "normal" avenues to change have become ineffectual. That said please continue to read this post as I explain why I DON'T like this video or the tactics employed in it.

This video appeals to emotional triggers through clever editing and replay for emphasis of the voice and sounds of those who have been targeted by the police here in the US. By editing sequences so that the govt. sanctioned and promoted wholesale ATTACKS on the people protesting in the middle east are conflated with the isolated incidents of overly aggressive clearing and arrest actions by US police is purposely disingenuous, divisive, inflaming.

The experience of life in America in general and down on Wall St. in particular are hardly the same as living under oppressive dictatorship that use violence, torture, disappearances, and threats daily as social control.

The juxtaposition of the images of OWS and Tahir Uprising, Clinton and Obama comments attempt to equate what has happened in the middle east with what is happening here.

They are not the same.

While reprehensible that pepper spray was used, that police have used night-sticks, and have man-handled protesters during arrest and even that the arrest have taken place at all it is not even close to the same as life was/is in undemocratic Egypt, Lybia and Syria.

Equating the two is a DISSERVICE to OWS as it serves to create an emotional US vs THEM mentality between the protesters and the typically (and certainly comparatively speaking when compared with the armies and police of Egypt, Lybia, Syria) non-violent police.

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  -I AM NOT MOVING - Occupy Wall Street FreeBillClinton  Oct-11-11 04:43 PM   #0 
  - Wow.  freedom fighter jh   Oct-11-11 04:58 PM   #1 
  - I got really choked up watching this. I love that feeling. Thanks. nt  Modern_Matthew   Oct-11-11 05:12 PM   #2 
  - Yep, it was very powerful and moving.  glowing   Oct-11-11 05:16 PM   #4 
  - WOW!! +1000000000000000000000  Xicano   Oct-11-11 05:12 PM   #3 
  - Hey Right Wing... here comes a Tsunami... you can't stop us  fascisthunter   Oct-11-11 05:25 PM   #5 
  - That was epic.  Fantastic Anarchist   Oct-11-11 05:27 PM   #6 
  - Wow! Just Wow. Really skewers TPTB.  1monster   Oct-11-11 05:40 PM   #7 
  - Mr. President  nineteen50   Oct-11-11 05:52 PM   #8 
  - He's in the back room with his Wall Street peeps.  Raster   Oct-12-11 12:44 PM   #36 
  - Hypocrisy  nineteen50   Oct-11-11 05:57 PM   #9 
  - very good..nt  xiamiam   Oct-11-11 06:10 PM   #10 
  - Finally the movement we have been waiting for  Mosaic   Oct-11-11 06:56 PM   #11 
  - Wow that says it all!!  workinclasszero   Oct-11-11 06:59 PM   #12 
  - amazing video...  Locrian   Oct-11-11 07:06 PM   #13 
  - Nicely done ;)  civilisation   Oct-11-11 07:23 PM   #14 
  - wow wow wow  Voice for Peace   Oct-11-11 07:43 PM   #15 
  - Powerfully moving  me b zola   Oct-11-11 07:59 PM   #16 
  - YouTube says this video has "potentially inappropriate content,"  KurtNYC   Oct-11-11 08:17 PM   #17 
  - Ah, Google.  Xtraneous   Oct-17-11 10:42 PM   #49 
  - who is the  simmonsj811   Oct-11-11 08:31 PM   #18 
  - Wow!  ClayZ   Oct-12-11 01:20 AM   #19 
  - there are  unionworks   Oct-12-11 02:57 AM   #20 
  - Poignant, now how do we get our leaders to view this?  ifnotformazie   Oct-12-11 05:34 AM   #21 
  - Our Founders knew all too well that democracy  spicegal   Oct-12-11 05:49 AM   #22 
  - **** I DON"T Like this...I UN-REC this ...Here is why...(Hear me out on this please) ****  masmdu   Oct-12-11 08:15 AM   #23 
  - The truth is very painful. Denying it won't make it go away.  stillrockin   Oct-12-11 09:08 AM   #24 
  - You imply that I'm denying something?...Do tell...  masmdu   Oct-12-11 09:19 AM   #26 
     - We'll have to agree to disagree.  stillrockin   Oct-12-11 10:28 AM   #30 
  - hmm.  ccavagnolo   Oct-12-11 09:13 AM   #25 
  - +1  freedom fighter jh   Oct-12-11 09:29 AM   #27 
  - It's the video editing equivalent of the logical fallacy of false equivalency & appeal to emotion  masmdu   Oct-12-11 09:54 AM   #28 
     - Hypocrisy has it's own elegant symmetry.  fasttense   Oct-12-11 10:54 AM   #33 
     - Yes totally true  ccavagnolo   Oct-12-11 03:58 PM   #42 
     - You claim we have democracy in this country.  Devil_Fish   Oct-17-11 11:01 PM   #50 
  - It's called balance...  Xtraneous   Oct-17-11 10:36 PM   #48 
  - K&R  raouldukelives   Oct-12-11 09:55 AM   #29 
  - This video makes it clear. Who are you going to vote for now?!  Township75   Oct-12-11 10:35 AM   #31 
  - recommend  xchrom   Oct-12-11 10:52 AM   #32 
  - Bloody Outstanding  malthaussen   Oct-12-11 11:11 AM   #34 
  - Superb. This is truly a moment in history.  JBoy   Oct-12-11 12:27 PM   #35 
  - Our Govt. supports demonstrators all over the world-just not in America!  midnight   Oct-12-11 12:58 PM   #37 
  - Because it is paid (and very, very well) to support protestors abroad...  Amonester   Oct-12-11 02:35 PM   #38 
  - WHEN  Plucketeer   Oct-12-11 02:38 PM   #39 
  - Kicked and recommended!  Enthusiast   Oct-12-11 02:56 PM   #40 
  - Poignant, well done piece of social art!  Dont call me Shirley   Oct-12-11 03:12 PM   #41 
  - Put it on facebook.  icymist   Oct-12-11 04:05 PM   #43 
  - The more they oppress a people the more they will  lovuian   Oct-12-11 04:09 PM   #44 
  - It does make American Exceptionalism look pretty shallow...  KansDem   Oct-12-11 04:21 PM   #45 
  - Is it possible to send this to all the congress critters,  lsewpershad   Oct-12-11 04:53 PM   #46 
  - Excellent!  mia   Oct-12-11 08:21 PM   #47 
  - It's time to stop living the lie  RegieRocker   Oct-18-11 12:38 PM   #51 

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