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Cal Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 09:39 AM
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22. OccupyWallStreet in NYC does not let someone famous
interrupt their General Assembly meeting. If the person isn't on the agenda or speaking on-topic within the framework of the GA meeting, they don't speak.

There are plenty of other rallies and other times where more people can speak.

This video is being presented without context.

GA meetings are tedious enough as it is, trying to get through the agenda and making decisions regarding the overall Occupation. It is not a time for someone to show up and make a speech.

Race has absolutely nothing to do with it. In fact, I don't know if Atlanta is doing this but at many of the sites they use what is called a 'progressive stack' in which people who want to speak (ON-TOPIC) who are from a traditionally disenfranchised population (eg people of color, women, etc) get first dibs in line, and the over-represented white middle-class college kids get at the end of the line.

This is being blown out of proportion.
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  -Occupy Atlanta Silences Civil Rights Hero John Lewis! Rhiannon12866  Oct-09-11 05:52 AM   #0 
  - Interesting video...wish it wasn't from an apparently conservative source  deutsey   Oct-09-11 06:11 AM   #1 
  - strategically stupid?  kmiriam   Oct-09-11 06:20 AM   #2 
  - OccupyWallStreet in NYC does not let someone famous  Cal Carpenter   Oct-09-11 09:39 AM   #22 
  - this is accurate  FluxRostrum   Oct-09-11 01:10 PM   #31 
  - This was stupid!  usaprogress   Oct-09-11 12:36 PM   #30 
     - Lol, welcome to DU!  sabrina 1   Oct-09-11 07:47 PM   #37 
        - First......  usaprogress   Oct-09-11 08:36 PM   #39 
           - Why would YOU be offended when he was not and completely  sabrina 1   Oct-10-11 12:18 AM   #43 
  - I know, but I thought it was okay, since it just showed what happened...  Rhiannon12866   Oct-09-11 06:23 AM   #4 
  - But was it really democracy?  fasttense   Oct-09-11 06:22 AM   #3 
  - That's the most democratic process I've ever seen.  baldguy   Oct-09-11 07:08 AM   #5 
  - But there needs to be common sense exceptions. He's a US Congressman on a schedule. They should have  RBInMaine   Oct-09-11 08:31 AM   #12 
     - " singular human being is apparently more valuable than any other human being."  baldguy   Oct-09-11 08:50 AM   #18 
     - I would think one of the goals of the occupy movement would be to have a dialogue with our elected  Erose999   Oct-09-11 05:23 PM   #35 
     - He is a US Congressman  Cal Carpenter   Oct-09-11 09:06 AM   #20 
     - My feeling was that they could have learned from him.  Rhiannon12866   Oct-09-11 03:54 PM   #32 
  - Hopefully Rep. Lewis will get to speak. I know one of the speakers suggested he speak at another  Erose999   Oct-09-11 08:35 AM   #15 
  - Yes it was true demoncracy. This movement is not about  sabrina 1   Oct-10-11 12:24 AM   #44 
  - I understand they whole democratic process  border_town   Oct-09-11 07:24 AM   #6 
  - if the group has decided to act in the consensus model, there can be no exceptions made,or the whole  stockholmer   Oct-09-11 07:54 AM   #7 
     - well said  walerosco   Oct-09-11 08:23 AM   #11 
     - Wrong. The movement is doomed to failure if it embraces ultra-purity with no means to actually  RBInMaine   Oct-09-11 08:40 AM   #16 
     - well, if you are hanging your hat on the Dems actually doing anything positive, I agree, reality sux  stockholmer   Oct-09-11 08:59 AM   #19 
     - Yes, made it abundantly clear that  MNBrewer   Oct-09-11 10:37 AM   #25 
     - Have you ever seen consensus work?  Chan790   Oct-09-11 09:07 AM   #21 
  - crap! however unracist this was, Fox now has its silly meme  zazen   Oct-09-11 07:54 AM   #8 
  - so show all it wasn't racist, don't let a shite pseudo-news organ define you, Fuck Fox  stockholmer   Oct-09-11 07:57 AM   #9 
  - Sounds like Fox  AnnieK401   Oct-09-11 08:33 AM   #13 
  - You are right, now they will say look the OWS is just as racist as the tea party. First big mis-step  Exultant Democracy   Oct-10-11 01:42 AM   #46 
  - They might as well have been yelling  ooglymoogly   Oct-09-11 08:23 AM   #10 
  - I do believe they have decided to allow both the Republicans & Democrats to keep playing those roles  stockholmer   Oct-09-11 08:34 AM   #14 
  - Looks like an effort to thwart any real chance at a peaceful revolution  ooglymoogly   Oct-09-11 10:54 AM   #27 
  - It was the middle of General Assembly  Cal Carpenter   Oct-09-11 08:42 AM   #17 
  - Its like the first organizatonal meetings described by Orwell in Animal Farm  jerseyjack   Oct-09-11 09:42 AM   #23 
  - Now watch the Greatest Thread entitled, "To The DNC and all Federal..."  jerseyjack   Oct-09-11 09:46 AM   #24 
  - Christopher Hitchens made the point yesterday that the problems  jerseyjack   Oct-09-11 10:51 AM   #26 
     - Christopher Hitchens is a drunken sot who dances to anybodies tune.  ooglymoogly   Oct-09-11 11:02 AM   #28 
     - Are we really taking the words of that drunken RW sot seriously now?  Chan790   Oct-09-11 12:33 PM   #29 
  - What the hell is this bullshit?  Cats Against Frist   Oct-09-11 04:40 PM   #33 
  - Thank you. I feel the same way  tishaLA   Oct-10-11 03:09 AM   #47 
  - No one lets citizens address Congress either  Generic Other   Oct-09-11 05:16 PM   #34 
  - This was just a stupid move. n/t  Exilednight   Oct-09-11 06:08 PM   #36 
  - Lewis knows all about this stuff  Enrique   Oct-09-11 08:22 PM   #38 
  - Lewis has paid his dues and then some  Adenoid_Hynkel   Oct-09-11 09:09 PM   #40 
  - Democracy sucks when it doesn't go the way you want it to...  wundermaus   Oct-09-11 09:37 PM   #41 
  - If Lewis had been allowed to speak, even briefly, it would have been  ooglymoogly   Oct-09-11 09:40 PM   #42 
  - Lewis will speak at many of these events I am sure. He completely  sabrina 1   Oct-10-11 12:51 AM   #45 
     - You know Sabrina, on many things, I tend to agree with you, but on this one I do not.  ooglymoogly   Oct-10-11 02:54 PM   #49 
        - Hi ooglymoogly, I generally agree with you also, and it's okay  sabrina 1   Oct-10-11 09:05 PM   #50 
  - Lewis responds by complimenting the group  Enrique   Oct-10-11 11:28 AM   #48 

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