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34. Thinking I would get some reasonable comments on DU about this...
I realize that this place has become freeperville, save for a few.

As an activist whose been in situations where I could ask some hard hitting questions, I've become emotional myself. It comes with the territory. I get the impression with the comments here that very few must actually get out there and do any more than sit in front of their computers. None of his questions were unreasonably stated and none of them could be construed as inciting a riot. That he expected to be able to stay and listen to the answers to those questions is also not unreasonable. To suggest that this was some sort of "set up" to embarrass Kerry, when he's already embarrassed himself by not acting on these issues that most DU'er's would agree with, is idiocy.

I cried when I saw this. It makes me sad everytime I see what a sham this "democracy" is. And it's worse when I see DU becoming more accepting of such anti-democratic, unconstitutional bullcrap...

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  -University of Florida student Tasered at Kerry forum jefferson_dem  Sep-18-07 07:37 AM   #0 
  - They should have billy-clubbed his silly ass.  trumad   Sep-18-07 07:45 AM   #1 
  - ..or send him to PC camp? (eom)  Loge23   Sep-18-07 07:47 AM   #3 
  - I was kidding about the billy club  trumad   Sep-18-07 07:56 AM   #5 
     - nice justification for fascist police state  subsuelo   Sep-18-07 02:39 PM   #85 
        - the kid was asking some pretty good questions if you ask me.  ooglymoogly   Sep-18-07 03:16 PM   #91 
           - 'If your are concerned about Iran - why not Impeach'  RangerRK   Sep-18-07 03:58 PM   #101 
  - You should be ashamed of yourself. nt  bos1   Sep-18-07 08:45 AM   #17 
  - Why? what was the crime?  ralphmich3   Sep-18-07 11:28 AM   #54 
  - Big Guy Sen. Kerry will give Press Release  ralphmich3   Sep-18-07 11:37 AM   #58 
  - the crime was asking the wrong questions  subsuelo   Sep-18-07 01:35 PM   #79 
  - yes, I'm sure Alberto Gonzalez and Bush would approve of this too  RestoreGore   Sep-18-07 12:15 PM   #69 
     - Except W would get a woody watching it!  The Count   Sep-18-07 04:05 PM   #104 
        - He probably already has  RestoreGore   Sep-18-07 04:17 PM   #109 
  - Disgraceful  Loge23   Sep-18-07 07:46 AM   #2 
  - No he didn't have to carry on like that  underpants   Sep-18-07 08:03 AM   #7 
     - Sign of the times we live  LaloBorges   Sep-18-07 11:14 AM   #52 
        - I honestly don't think many folks under 30 years old truly embrace how "in the face" of authority  ShortnFiery   Sep-18-07 11:59 AM   #64 
        - Exactly  Mojorabbit   Sep-18-07 03:32 PM   #96 
        - Here here. The kid was protesting the stolen election that makes  Cookie wookie   Sep-18-07 09:51 PM   #136 
        - you can hear in the tape Kerry said he'd answer  TheFarseer   Sep-19-07 05:03 PM   #156 
  - I would've tased him, too.  Nailzberg   Sep-18-07 07:53 AM   #4 
  - Jesus H. Christ. Such melodramatic horseshit.  Buzz Clik   Sep-18-07 08:02 AM   #6 
  - HELP! HELP!  underpants   Sep-18-07 08:05 AM   #8 
  - It's become a standard script for those being arrested after an intentional disruption.  Buzz Clik   Sep-18-07 08:09 AM   #9 
  - Good questions - I want to know the answers too  ralphmich3   Sep-18-07 11:31 AM   #55 
     - Video Response - Excessive force  ralphmich3   Sep-18-07 01:29 PM   #77 
        - Excellent Questions n/t  Cybergata   Sep-18-07 05:17 PM   #123 
  - Not just the blog, but the fore-coming lawsuit against the university  Nailzberg   Sep-18-07 08:29 AM   #14 
  - :-) I did too  underpants   Sep-18-07 08:32 AM   #15 
  - His Blog better than MStream Media??  ralphmich3   Sep-18-07 11:34 AM   #57 
  - Try reading Greg Palast's book  ralphmich3   Sep-18-07 11:32 AM   #56 
  - You should be ashamed of yourself. nt  bos1   Sep-18-07 08:49 AM   #20 
  - Yeah. I should. I need a role-model  Nailzberg   Sep-18-07 09:15 AM   #30 
     - yeah, always good to tase after you're down on your stomach  orleans   Sep-18-07 02:40 PM   #86 
        - The subject was not handcuffed at that point.  Nailzberg   Sep-18-07 10:28 PM   #143 
        - -  Nailzberg   Sep-19-07 11:13 AM   #154 
  - How were those silly ass questions?  proud2Blib   Sep-18-07 09:18 AM   #31 
  - It's silly ass to ask a question and continue talking.  Nailzberg   Sep-18-07 09:48 AM   #35 
     - Oh I didn't see it that way.  proud2Blib   Sep-18-07 09:55 AM   #37 
     - At some point you have to give up the mic and allow your questions to be answered.  Nailzberg   Sep-18-07 10:31 PM   #144 
     - Yes but...........  W T F   Sep-18-07 10:20 AM   #41 
  - What was so silly about the questions?  mrdemocrat78   Sep-18-07 12:03 PM   #66 
  - I hear they have openings at Abu Grahib. You love dogs?  The Count   Sep-18-07 04:06 PM   #105 
  - What a schmuck n/t  mockmonkey   Sep-18-07 08:10 AM   #10 
  - You should be ashamed of yourself. nt  bos1   Sep-18-07 08:50 AM   #21 
     - The guy could have asked his questions  mockmonkey   Sep-18-07 09:09 AM   #27 
  - I thought I was on DU not FreeRepublic  4 more pretzels   Sep-18-07 08:14 AM   #11 
  - have to agree with you  sui generis   Sep-18-07 08:20 AM   #13 
  - Reports indicated he was out of line.  Nailzberg   Sep-18-07 08:43 AM   #16 
  - Reports? Have you seen  The Count   Sep-18-07 04:09 PM   #106 
  - Shame on any of you who condone this!  kdsusa   Sep-18-07 04:13 PM   #108 
  - Why would anyone rely on reports..  girl gone mad   Sep-18-07 04:44 PM   #116 
  - EXACTLY. I'm outraged. Watch the fuller video.  bos1   Sep-18-07 08:50 AM   #22 
  - Damn straight!  Mugsy   Sep-18-07 09:21 AM   #32 
  - DU isn't like what it used to be  mrdemocrat78   Sep-18-07 11:58 AM   #63 
  - Anyone know where the FULL VIDEO is? Is kid a RW plant?  Festivito   Sep-18-07 08:19 AM   #12 
  - here is a 3:55 minutes clip , I haven't watched it  CGowen   Sep-18-07 08:46 AM   #18 
  - THAT'S BETTER. Thanks. Kerry was fine. Kid goofed, police goofed.  Festivito   Sep-18-07 02:07 PM   #82 
  - Fuller Video for you people who hate dissent  bos1   Sep-18-07 08:48 AM   #19 
  - Not energetically at all...  MessiahRp   Sep-18-07 09:02 AM   #26 
  - Republican Asking about Impeaching Bush?  ralphmich3   Sep-18-07 11:58 AM   #62 
     - It's one of two things...  MessiahRp   Sep-18-07 02:43 PM   #87 
        - A Republican buying Palast's book???  ralphmich3   Sep-18-07 03:22 PM   #92 
        - #2: Far leftwing guy like Greg Palast  ralphmich3   Sep-18-07 03:29 PM   #94 
        - He was talking fast because he wanted to get through..  girl gone mad   Sep-18-07 04:53 PM   #118 
           - I have never said I wanted the kid tased  MessiahRp   Sep-18-07 05:03 PM   #121 
  - I saw it that way too  creeksneakers2   Sep-18-07 07:01 PM   #128 
  - KERRY SHOULD NOT HAVE CONCEDED, 2004  ralphmich3   Sep-18-07 12:00 PM   #65 
     - And, perhaps Gore should have had US storm SCOTUS with weapons.  Festivito   Sep-18-07 02:11 PM   #83 
  - recommended nt  bos1   Sep-18-07 08:51 AM   #23 
  - You really don't need to plant a RW at UF.  The Animator   Sep-18-07 08:54 AM   #24 
  - There's something awfully fishy about that guy's performance  MessiahRp   Sep-18-07 08:57 AM   #25 
  - Here is his homepage, he is probably for 911 truth, because he has a link to Zeitgeist  CGowen   Sep-18-07 09:13 AM   #29 
  - He's not just ANY Andrew Meyer- he's THE Andrew Meyer!  stlsaxman   Sep-19-07 05:59 AM   #148 
  - "Fair Play for Cuba!" Where's your bullshit detector? The kid was a provocateur.  FraDon   Sep-18-07 05:28 PM   #124 
  - What's worse? Kerry standing there and doing nothing to stop it, or...  Mugsy   Sep-18-07 09:10 AM   #28 
  - What an IDIOT  cosmik debris   Sep-18-07 09:21 AM   #33 
  - What would Zappa do?  bos1   Sep-18-07 10:41 AM   #45 
  - Perhaps he would point out the terminally stupid behavior  cosmik debris   Sep-18-07 10:51 AM   #47 
     - Behave, be quiet, get in line, follow orders  bos1   Sep-18-07 10:54 AM   #49 
        - The sky is falling! THE SKY IS FALLING!!. n/t  cosmik debris   Sep-18-07 11:00 AM   #50 
  - WHAT was the crime??  ralphmich3   Sep-18-07 11:51 AM   #59 
  - He is a college kid  Mojorabbit   Sep-18-07 03:39 PM   #97 
  - Thinking I would get some reasonable comments on DU about this...  newburgh   Sep-18-07 09:36 AM   #34 
  - This was NOT civil disobedience.  cosmik debris   Sep-18-07 09:49 AM   #36 
  - I try to put myself in his shoes...  newburgh   Sep-18-07 10:15 AM   #40 
  - This was NOT "the simple act of asking questions"  cosmik debris   Sep-18-07 10:30 AM   #42 
     - That's the reasoning of the Good Soviet  bos1   Sep-18-07 10:51 AM   #48 
     - Misbehave = Crime??  ralphmich3   Sep-18-07 11:54 AM   #61 
     - He started off just being rude  cosmik debris   Sep-18-07 12:35 PM   #72 
        - being rude is a crime?? wow....  ralphmich3   Sep-18-07 12:51 PM   #74 
        - I don't understand why you keep talking about crime.  cosmik debris   Sep-18-07 01:10 PM   #75 
           - Crime - police were involved, arrest was made  ralphmich3   Sep-18-07 01:33 PM   #78 
              - Usually. You said "usually" three or four times now.  cosmik debris   Sep-18-07 01:45 PM   #81 
                 - I like the word "usually"  ralphmich3   Sep-18-07 03:26 PM   #93 
                 - How do you know that he did not commit a crime?  cosmik debris   Sep-18-07 04:21 PM   #111 
                    - "disorderly", in what way??  ralphmich3   Sep-18-07 08:40 PM   #132 
                       - Haven't you ever seen a temper tantrum before?  cosmik debris   Sep-18-07 09:16 PM   #133 
                          - NOT A CRIME - NO ARREST NECESSARY...  ralphmich3   Sep-19-07 07:58 AM   #150 
                             - Tell it to the judge  cosmik debris   Sep-19-07 08:35 AM   #151 
                 - This makes me think of Bobby Kennedy:  Cookie wookie   Sep-18-07 10:25 PM   #142 
                    - Not even close to the same thing  cosmik debris   Sep-18-07 10:37 PM   #145 
        - Add "Jumping to the head of the line" as his FIRST misbehavior  stlsaxman   Sep-19-07 06:07 AM   #149 
           - Thanks, I was not aware of that when I made my post. n/t  cosmik debris   Sep-19-07 08:42 AM   #153 
     - I do nothing wrong except "misbehave" with non-inciting words...  newburgh   Sep-18-07 04:10 PM   #107 
        - Nothing? You're kidding right?  cosmik debris   Sep-18-07 04:28 PM   #113 
           - No offense, but...  girl gone mad   Sep-18-07 04:58 PM   #120 
              - And I'm shocked that so many advocate un-civil disobedience  cosmik debris   Sep-18-07 05:13 PM   #122 
                 - Shocking!!!! Everyone ain't a MLK Jr.  ralphmich3   Sep-18-07 09:45 PM   #134 
                 - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Sep-18-07 10:18 PM   #141 
                 - Shocked at the Georgetown Law School protest  ralphmich3   Sep-18-07 09:49 PM   #135 
  - Yes, if we would all just BEHAVE ourselves. Good grief. How did he not BEHAVE?  cui bono   Sep-18-07 03:46 PM   #99 
     - Disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, assault, trespass  cosmik debris   Sep-18-07 04:43 PM   #115 
        - Uh, yeah then you might find one other thing he did wrong.  cui bono   Sep-18-07 04:51 PM   #117 
           - Of course there was cause.  cosmik debris   Sep-18-07 04:54 PM   #119 
              - All he was doing was asking a question. People here think being obnoxious  cui bono   Sep-18-07 10:10 PM   #138 
                 - That's not all he did  cosmik debris   Sep-18-07 10:17 PM   #140 
                    - There is no way the taser was justified.  cui bono   Sep-19-07 12:18 AM   #146 
                       - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-19-07 08:41 AM   #152 
                          - Well your ideas and definitions of insanity show what a sad, terrorized,  cui bono   Sep-19-07 04:10 PM   #155 
  - this is NOT what democracy looks like  bos1   Sep-18-07 10:32 AM   #43 
  - Exactly. The attitudes in this thread are even worse than the tasering.  cui bono   Sep-18-07 03:13 PM   #90 
  - Well said, newburgh  Lorien   Sep-18-07 05:52 PM   #126 
  - What riot?  W T F   Sep-18-07 10:03 AM   #38 
  - I don't belive some of you people  navarth   Sep-18-07 10:09 AM   #39 
  - Truly disappointed in some of DU today  bos1   Sep-18-07 10:40 AM   #44 
  - Well said. And welcome to DU...  cui bono   Sep-18-07 04:30 PM   #114 
  - If Kerry had done that  creeksneakers2   Sep-18-07 07:19 PM   #129 
  - Democracy in US is DOA  bos1   Sep-18-07 10:46 AM   #46 
  - I fear that many of Billy McGuire's "Eve of Destruction" predictions were forty years too early  ShortnFiery   Sep-18-07 12:08 PM   #68 
  - In a later clip  insane_cratic_gal   Sep-18-07 11:04 AM   #51 
  - Statement from John Kerry regarding yesterday's UF incident:  ralbertson   Sep-18-07 11:22 AM   #53 
  - Would be great  Don1   Sep-18-07 11:52 AM   #60 
  - I think the inciting a riot issue  creeksneakers2   Sep-18-07 07:29 PM   #130 
  - See, I don't buy that  mrdemocrat78   Sep-18-07 12:05 PM   #67 
  - John Kerry is a highly intelligent man and a war hero, but not as pro-active in this situation as I  ShortnFiery   Sep-18-07 12:19 PM   #71 
  - "Not as proactive"? what an euphemism for "My Pet Goat"!  The Count   Sep-18-07 04:04 PM   #103 
  - He already made his statement of complicity when he just stood on that stage  cui bono   Sep-18-07 03:45 PM   #98 
  - thanks for posting this  ProfessorPlum   Sep-18-07 12:19 PM   #70 
  - I think the worst part is the crowd APPLAUDING as he is led away  bos1   Sep-18-07 12:39 PM   #73 
     - I agree - no one should ever be treated this way  ProfessorPlum   Sep-18-07 01:26 PM   #76 
     - I agree that was disturbing. That they felt it was worthy of  Cookie wookie   Sep-18-07 10:00 PM   #137 
  - I say fuck the cops in this situation  subsuelo   Sep-18-07 01:37 PM   #80 
  - Find the officers names and post their home addresses  sasquatch   Sep-18-07 02:35 PM   #84 
  - Reminds me...  Liir   Sep-18-07 02:48 PM   #88 
  - Wow. only 10 comments in and I can't believe what you people are saying!  cui bono   Sep-18-07 03:12 PM   #89 
  - I concur.  sasquatch   Sep-18-07 03:32 PM   #95 
  - Yes, by their logic Patrick Henry would have been tasered when he screamed  RestoreGore   Sep-18-07 04:21 PM   #110 
  - Frightening indeed. It really seemed like I was reading that "other" board.  cui bono   Sep-18-07 04:28 PM   #112 
  - Amen. Seven years of BushCo and now it seems the enemy is us.  Lorien   Sep-18-07 05:48 PM   #125 
  - *Blink* What the hell?  sss1977   Sep-18-07 03:47 PM   #100 
  - Well said. Except there's not many on here who have disagreement to write!  cui bono   Sep-18-07 10:13 PM   #139 
  - Kerry's My Pet Goat moment and the operatives who love torture like Bushco  The Count   Sep-18-07 04:03 PM   #102 
  - What was the student's political affiliation?  mogster   Sep-18-07 06:30 PM   #127 
  - Judging by his statements  kdsusa   Sep-18-07 08:03 PM   #131 
  - Imagine what people would be saying if this video was from...  Progressive Friend   Sep-19-07 12:59 AM   #147 

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