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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 08:46 PM
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14. A poor choice for a vessel to be used for ramming and being rammed
They should take my advice and go with triremes.
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  -Sea Shepherd's Ady Gil attacked by Japanese Whaling Vessel Devil_Fish  Jan-06-10 08:27 PM   #0 
  - Rule # 1: Get out of the way of ocean going vessels.  Shadowwiggs   Jan-06-10 08:34 PM   #1 
  - I don't know It seems to turn fairly well at 1:20 NT  Devil_Fish   Jan-06-10 08:35 PM   #4 
  - The Japanese captain will argue that he was trying to avoid a collision per rule 15  slackmaster   Jan-06-10 08:38 PM   #6 
  - Doesnt matter  niceypoo   Jan-06-10 09:17 PM   #20 
  - The Captain is protected by rule 18  sailor65   Jan-06-10 10:21 PM   #29 
     - He is only Restricted in ability to Maneuver in shallow water. this is open ocean.  Devil_Fish   Jan-06-10 10:40 PM   #33 
     - I do know this. You're mistaken.  sailor65   Jan-06-10 10:56 PM   #41 
        - So what is Restricting his ability to manuver? and he dosn't seem to be restricted when he turns to  Devil_Fish   Jan-06-10 10:59 PM   #45 
        - The whaler doesn't need anything to "Make" her RAM  sailor65   Jan-06-10 11:20 PM   #50 
           - So Basically what your saying is I can buy a BIG BOAT and run down small boats with impunity?  Devil_Fish   Jan-07-10 05:54 PM   #79 
              - Don't be stupid  sailor65   Jan-07-10 08:30 PM   #83 
                 - so what if I hit the row boat with a Sound wepon, water cannon and then he row's into my bow track  Devil_Fish   Jan-07-10 09:26 PM   #84 
        - ok so then what is it that makes the Japanese vessel RAM?  Devil_Fish   Jan-06-10 11:08 PM   #48 
           - Ok, you're tiring my fingers out.......  sailor65   Jan-06-10 11:21 PM   #51 
     - True enough - Any inquiry will be stopped dead after the first question...  slackmaster   Jan-07-10 09:43 AM   #64 
  - Of course you considered the changing direction of the vessel FILMING the "turn" right?  Shadowwiggs   Jan-06-10 08:39 PM   #8 
     - There are NO rules when battling the whalers, don't you get it????  DainBramaged   Jan-06-10 08:40 PM   #10 
     - I see. So save the (multiplying) whales has no rules. I see.... NT  Shadowwiggs   Jan-06-10 08:41 PM   #11 
        - So you approve of the japanese poaching?  DainBramaged   Jan-06-10 08:42 PM   #12 
           - Why is it poaching...its international waters  ProgressiveProfessor   Jan-06-10 10:49 PM   #36 
              - Where are the "reaserch" papers? What are they "Reaserching"? NT  Devil_Fish   Jan-06-10 10:57 PM   #42 
              - There is a slew of them at the ICR site  ProgressiveProfessor   Jan-07-10 12:08 AM   #58 
              - So whaling is OK with you?  DainBramaged   Jan-06-10 11:13 PM   #49 
                 - Nice try at redirection  ProgressiveProfessor   Jan-07-10 12:03 AM   #56 
     - Did you even watch the video? the filming is not being done from the Ady Gil.  Devil_Fish   Jan-06-10 08:45 PM   #13 
     - me thinks he could be expecting a pizza......he thinks bob Barker is a nut  DainBramaged   Jan-06-10 08:48 PM   #15 
     - I was refraining from name calling, but ya, one Pizza coming up. NT  Devil_Fish   Jan-06-10 09:04 PM   #17 
     - Wrong on three counts:  MercutioATC   Jan-06-10 09:18 PM   #21 
     - Even if both were moving the vessel on the port must give way, the Starbord vessel must stand on.  Devil_Fish   Jan-06-10 10:48 PM   #35 
        - That is not universal  ProgressiveProfessor   Jan-06-10 10:52 PM   #37 
           - The Japanese Capitan didn't have to turn to Starbord. The Ady Gil wasn't directly in his path. NT  Devil_Fish   Jan-06-10 10:55 PM   #39 
              - How much a turn is not clear since relative motion has not been addressed  ProgressiveProfessor   Jan-06-10 11:06 PM   #47 
     - No, the rules are clear  sailor65   Jan-06-10 10:28 PM   #30 
     - There is no Restricted Ability to Maneuver in open Ocean Only in shallows.  Devil_Fish   Jan-06-10 10:44 PM   #34 
        - No point in my typing it all again  sailor65   Jan-06-10 10:58 PM   #44 
           - ok so then what is it that makes the Japanese vessel RAM?  Devil_Fish   Jan-06-10 11:02 PM   #46 
              - Ok, now you're just playing!  sailor65   Jan-06-10 11:22 PM   #52 
     - The Bob Barker  Oerdin   Jan-06-10 11:55 PM   #54 
     - Yep  Oerdin   Jan-06-10 11:50 PM   #53 
        - I think Oredin's analysis of the camera angeles and vessel motions is spot on  slackmaster   Jan-07-10 10:02 AM   #67 
        - Agree 100%  rbixby   Jan-07-10 10:36 AM   #71 
        - I agree that the camera angles and motion are critical, I am not willing to call it a setup  ProgressiveProfessor   Jan-07-10 12:19 PM   #73 
  - Uh, that ship doesn't need football fields to turn a few degrees,  DainBramaged   Jan-06-10 08:39 PM   #9 
  - nonsense  wial   Jan-06-10 09:26 PM   #26 
     - SSCS is non-volent? Pull the other finger.  ProgressiveProfessor   Jan-06-10 10:54 PM   #38 
        - I put my faith more in common sense  wial   Jan-07-10 07:32 AM   #63 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-07-10 12:29 PM   #74 
  - The damage to the Ady Gil is minor  slackmaster   Jan-06-10 08:34 PM   #2 
  - Some one explain why they are not using a "Steel Hull Vessel"  FreakinDJ   Jan-06-10 08:35 PM   #3 
  - At least a big bronze ram on the prow, like the ancient Greeks used  slackmaster   Jan-06-10 08:37 PM   #5 
  - Composite it brittle at any temp. also light. for the lbs, composite is 4 times stronger then steel.  Devil_Fish   Jan-06-10 08:38 PM   #7 
  - A poor choice for a vessel to be used for ramming and being rammed  slackmaster   Jan-06-10 08:46 PM   #14 
     - I don't think the Ady Gil was intended to be used as a Raming vessel.  Devil_Fish   Jan-06-10 08:51 PM   #16 
        - This is no different than the last time Sea Shephard complained they were showed they  time_has_come   Jan-06-10 09:22 PM   #24 
        - If Sea Shepherd wants to engage in contact watersports on the high seas there is a very green choice  slackmaster   Jan-07-10 10:00 AM   #66 
  - The Ady Gil is about as ill suited as it comes to operations in those lattitudes  ProgressiveProfessor   Jan-06-10 10:56 PM   #40 
  - Why did the Ady Gil propel forward at the last moments???????  time_has_come   Jan-06-10 09:17 PM   #18 
  - Matters not, the ship was 1/2 second away from hitting them  niceypoo   Jan-06-10 09:20 PM   #23 
  - That ship has reverse.  AtheistCrusader   Jan-07-10 02:39 AM   #62 
  - Where do you see them going forward. at 1:20 they look fairly stationary the whole time. NT  Devil_Fish   Jan-06-10 09:24 PM   #25 
  - The SS boat clearly has a forward motion/prop wake in the seconds before the impact. n/t  time_has_come   Jan-06-10 09:45 PM   #28 
  - Yes it does  sailor65   Jan-06-10 10:39 PM   #31 
  - Watch at about :50.  sailor65   Jan-06-10 10:40 PM   #32 
  - Exactly.  Oerdin   Jan-07-10 12:14 AM   #59 
  - The "Burning Question" - Who paid for that vessel  FreakinDJ   Jan-06-10 09:17 PM   #19 
  - uh, Ady Gil?  wial   Jan-06-10 09:19 PM   #22 
     - Just like all the big football stadiums...big money talks and gets its name on things  ProgressiveProfessor   Jan-06-10 10:57 PM   #43 
  - k/r  snake in the grass   Jan-06-10 09:34 PM   #27 
  - K&R I'm surprised how many defenders of the whale slaughterers there are here.  Turborama   Jan-06-10 11:56 PM   #55 
     - Much of it is not so much pro whaler but anti Watson  ProgressiveProfessor   Jan-07-10 12:05 AM   #57 
     - Anything to make the Japanese happy......................  DainBramaged   Jan-07-10 01:14 AM   #60 
     - I am surprised you would take that postion...  ProgressiveProfessor   Jan-07-10 01:22 AM   #61 
     - OK, why is there so much hate for Watson here? Is it a personality thing?  Turborama   Jan-07-10 10:15 AM   #70 
        - I'll speak for myself on this one  ProgressiveProfessor   Jan-07-10 12:52 PM   #75 
           - I think you are jealous of Captain Watson and Sea Shepherd  Larkspur   Jan-07-10 06:07 PM   #80 
              - I am jealous of Capitan Watson. If I didn't have a job and family to support I would join up.  Devil_Fish   Jan-07-10 07:44 PM   #81 
     - Nobody on this forum is defending the practice of whaling  slackmaster   Jan-07-10 09:48 AM   #65 
     - There's a lot of defence of the whale slaughterers on this and other related threads  Turborama   Jan-07-10 10:05 AM   #68 
        - That's nonsense - This thread is about a single incident in which two vessels collided at sea  slackmaster   Jan-07-10 10:09 AM   #69 
           - Well said......n/t  sailor65   Jan-07-10 01:25 PM   #77 
     - Its not a matter of supporting the whalers  rbixby   Jan-07-10 10:41 AM   #72 
     - Nonsense  sailor65   Jan-07-10 01:24 PM   #76 
        - "borderline criminally negligent" you are too kind to Watson  ProgressiveProfessor   Jan-07-10 05:10 PM   #78 
           - I think you got me there  sailor65   Jan-07-10 08:19 PM   #82 

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