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Wed Jan-06-10 08:46 PM
Response to Reply #7 |
| 14. A poor choice for a vessel to be used for ramming and being rammed |
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They should take my advice and go with triremes.
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| -Sea Shepherd's Ady Gil attacked by Japanese Whaling Vessel |
Devil_Fish |
Jan-06-10 08:27 PM |
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Rule # 1: Get out of the way of ocean going vessels. |
Shadowwiggs |
Jan-06-10 08:34 PM |
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I don't know It seems to turn fairly well at 1:20 NT |
Devil_Fish |
Jan-06-10 08:35 PM |
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The Japanese captain will argue that he was trying to avoid a collision per rule 15 |
slackmaster |
Jan-06-10 08:38 PM |
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Doesnt matter |
niceypoo |
Jan-06-10 09:17 PM |
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The Captain is protected by rule 18 |
sailor65 |
Jan-06-10 10:21 PM |
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He is only Restricted in ability to Maneuver in shallow water. this is open ocean. |
Devil_Fish |
Jan-06-10 10:40 PM |
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I do know this. You're mistaken. |
sailor65 |
Jan-06-10 10:56 PM |
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So what is Restricting his ability to manuver? and he dosn't seem to be restricted when he turns to |
Devil_Fish |
Jan-06-10 10:59 PM |
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The whaler doesn't need anything to "Make" her RAM |
sailor65 |
Jan-06-10 11:20 PM |
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So Basically what your saying is I can buy a BIG BOAT and run down small boats with impunity? |
Devil_Fish |
Jan-07-10 05:54 PM |
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Don't be stupid |
sailor65 |
Jan-07-10 08:30 PM |
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so what if I hit the row boat with a Sound wepon, water cannon and then he row's into my bow track |
Devil_Fish |
Jan-07-10 09:26 PM |
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ok so then what is it that makes the Japanese vessel RAM? |
Devil_Fish |
Jan-06-10 11:08 PM |
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Ok, you're tiring my fingers out....... |
sailor65 |
Jan-06-10 11:21 PM |
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True enough - Any inquiry will be stopped dead after the first question... |
slackmaster |
Jan-07-10 09:43 AM |
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Of course you considered the changing direction of the vessel FILMING the "turn" right? |
Shadowwiggs |
Jan-06-10 08:39 PM |
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There are NO rules when battling the whalers, don't you get it???? |
DainBramaged |
Jan-06-10 08:40 PM |
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I see. So save the (multiplying) whales has no rules. I see.... NT |
Shadowwiggs |
Jan-06-10 08:41 PM |
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So you approve of the japanese poaching? |
DainBramaged |
Jan-06-10 08:42 PM |
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Why is it poaching...its international waters |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jan-06-10 10:49 PM |
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Where are the "reaserch" papers? What are they "Reaserching"? NT |
Devil_Fish |
Jan-06-10 10:57 PM |
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There is a slew of them at the ICR site |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jan-07-10 12:08 AM |
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So whaling is OK with you? |
DainBramaged |
Jan-06-10 11:13 PM |
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Nice try at redirection |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jan-07-10 12:03 AM |
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Did you even watch the video? the filming is not being done from the Ady Gil. |
Devil_Fish |
Jan-06-10 08:45 PM |
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me thinks he could be expecting a pizza......he thinks bob Barker is a nut |
DainBramaged |
Jan-06-10 08:48 PM |
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I was refraining from name calling, but ya, one Pizza coming up. NT |
Devil_Fish |
Jan-06-10 09:04 PM |
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Wrong on three counts: |
MercutioATC |
Jan-06-10 09:18 PM |
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Even if both were moving the vessel on the port must give way, the Starbord vessel must stand on. |
Devil_Fish |
Jan-06-10 10:48 PM |
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That is not universal |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jan-06-10 10:52 PM |
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The Japanese Capitan didn't have to turn to Starbord. The Ady Gil wasn't directly in his path. NT |
Devil_Fish |
Jan-06-10 10:55 PM |
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How much a turn is not clear since relative motion has not been addressed |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jan-06-10 11:06 PM |
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No, the rules are clear |
sailor65 |
Jan-06-10 10:28 PM |
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There is no Restricted Ability to Maneuver in open Ocean Only in shallows. |
Devil_Fish |
Jan-06-10 10:44 PM |
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No point in my typing it all again |
sailor65 |
Jan-06-10 10:58 PM |
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ok so then what is it that makes the Japanese vessel RAM? |
Devil_Fish |
Jan-06-10 11:02 PM |
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Ok, now you're just playing! |
sailor65 |
Jan-06-10 11:22 PM |
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The Bob Barker |
Oerdin |
Jan-06-10 11:55 PM |
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Yep |
Oerdin |
Jan-06-10 11:50 PM |
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I think Oredin's analysis of the camera angeles and vessel motions is spot on |
slackmaster |
Jan-07-10 10:02 AM |
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Agree 100% |
rbixby |
Jan-07-10 10:36 AM |
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I agree that the camera angles and motion are critical, I am not willing to call it a setup |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jan-07-10 12:19 PM |
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Uh, that ship doesn't need football fields to turn a few degrees, |
DainBramaged |
Jan-06-10 08:39 PM |
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nonsense |
wial |
Jan-06-10 09:26 PM |
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SSCS is non-volent? Pull the other finger. |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jan-06-10 10:54 PM |
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I put my faith more in common sense |
wial |
Jan-07-10 07:32 AM |
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Jan-07-10 12:29 PM |
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The damage to the Ady Gil is minor |
slackmaster |
Jan-06-10 08:34 PM |
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Some one explain why they are not using a "Steel Hull Vessel" |
FreakinDJ |
Jan-06-10 08:35 PM |
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At least a big bronze ram on the prow, like the ancient Greeks used |
slackmaster |
Jan-06-10 08:37 PM |
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Composite it brittle at any temp. also light. for the lbs, composite is 4 times stronger then steel. |
Devil_Fish |
Jan-06-10 08:38 PM |
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A poor choice for a vessel to be used for ramming and being rammed |
slackmaster |
Jan-06-10 08:46 PM |
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I don't think the Ady Gil was intended to be used as a Raming vessel. |
Devil_Fish |
Jan-06-10 08:51 PM |
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This is no different than the last time Sea Shephard complained they were rammed...video showed they |
time_has_come |
Jan-06-10 09:22 PM |
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If Sea Shepherd wants to engage in contact watersports on the high seas there is a very green choice |
slackmaster |
Jan-07-10 10:00 AM |
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The Ady Gil is about as ill suited as it comes to operations in those lattitudes |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jan-06-10 10:56 PM |
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Why did the Ady Gil propel forward at the last moments??????? |
time_has_come |
Jan-06-10 09:17 PM |
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Matters not, the ship was 1/2 second away from hitting them |
niceypoo |
Jan-06-10 09:20 PM |
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That ship has reverse. |
AtheistCrusader |
Jan-07-10 02:39 AM |
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Where do you see them going forward. at 1:20 they look fairly stationary the whole time. NT |
Devil_Fish |
Jan-06-10 09:24 PM |
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The SS boat clearly has a forward motion/prop wake in the seconds before the impact. n/t |
time_has_come |
Jan-06-10 09:45 PM |
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Yes it does |
sailor65 |
Jan-06-10 10:39 PM |
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Watch at about :50. |
sailor65 |
Jan-06-10 10:40 PM |
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Exactly. |
Oerdin |
Jan-07-10 12:14 AM |
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The "Burning Question" - Who paid for that vessel |
FreakinDJ |
Jan-06-10 09:17 PM |
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uh, Ady Gil? |
wial |
Jan-06-10 09:19 PM |
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Just like all the big football stadiums...big money talks and gets its name on things |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jan-06-10 10:57 PM |
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k/r |
snake in the grass |
Jan-06-10 09:34 PM |
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K&R I'm surprised how many defenders of the whale slaughterers there are here. |
Turborama |
Jan-06-10 11:56 PM |
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Much of it is not so much pro whaler but anti Watson |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jan-07-10 12:05 AM |
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Anything to make the Japanese happy...................... |
DainBramaged |
Jan-07-10 01:14 AM |
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I am surprised you would take that postion... |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jan-07-10 01:22 AM |
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OK, why is there so much hate for Watson here? Is it a personality thing? |
Turborama |
Jan-07-10 10:15 AM |
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I'll speak for myself on this one |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jan-07-10 12:52 PM |
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I think you are jealous of Captain Watson and Sea Shepherd |
Larkspur |
Jan-07-10 06:07 PM |
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I am jealous of Capitan Watson. If I didn't have a job and family to support I would join up. |
Devil_Fish |
Jan-07-10 07:44 PM |
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Nobody on this forum is defending the practice of whaling |
slackmaster |
Jan-07-10 09:48 AM |
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There's a lot of defence of the whale slaughterers on this and other related threads |
Turborama |
Jan-07-10 10:05 AM |
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That's nonsense - This thread is about a single incident in which two vessels collided at sea |
slackmaster |
Jan-07-10 10:09 AM |
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Well said......n/t |
sailor65 |
Jan-07-10 01:25 PM |
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Its not a matter of supporting the whalers |
rbixby |
Jan-07-10 10:41 AM |
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Nonsense |
sailor65 |
Jan-07-10 01:24 PM |
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"borderline criminally negligent" you are too kind to Watson |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jan-07-10 05:10 PM |
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I think you got me there |
sailor65 |
Jan-07-10 08:19 PM |
#82 |
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