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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 02:05 PM
Response to Reply #91
112. One of them tried to sell drugs to a bar employee
Which led to a scuffle. Then all of a sudden a bunch of young men produce illegally carried guns and start shooting.

Sounds like a gang to me.

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  -TYT: Guns in bars working out about as well as expected jgraz  Oct-13-09 01:03 PM   #0 
  - Maybe those Libertarians should all move to Toledo!  Crowman1979   Oct-13-09 01:11 PM   #1 
  - well, now, if we would just allow "open carry" of Thompson submachine guns, the first guy could've  villager   Oct-13-09 01:12 PM   #2 
  - Unrec for deception - Incident depicted in video has nothing to do with lawful concealed carry  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 01:17 PM   #3 
  - Of course it doesn't  jgraz   Oct-13-09 01:22 PM   #10 
  - Their overt behavor which is clearly shown in the video  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 01:23 PM   #11 
  - Obviously.. Legal carriers only shoot at their spouses.  jgraz   Oct-13-09 01:26 PM   #18 
     - Nice broad-brush attack with nothing to back it up  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 01:27 PM   #21 
     - We've just seen two legal carriers in a murder-suicide.  jgraz   Oct-13-09 01:31 PM   #29 
        - That was a domestic violence incident that had nothing to do with the victim have a permit to carry  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 01:33 PM   #35 
        - Are you saying her husband got his gun illegally?  jgraz   Oct-13-09 01:39 PM   #57 
           - No, he was a law enforcement professional  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 01:40 PM   #60 
           - He was a parole officer.  jgraz   Oct-13-09 01:50 PM   #83 
              - Would you feel better if he'd used a department-issued weapon?  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 01:56 PM   #93 
              - No, but you would  jgraz   Oct-13-09 01:57 PM   #96 
                 - No, I would not  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 02:00 PM   #103 
                    - You're happy to use the assumption in your arguments  jgraz   Oct-13-09 02:01 PM   #105 
              - Yeah. Law enforcement.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 01:57 PM   #94 
                 - They are usually issued as many firearms as I am  jgraz   Oct-13-09 01:59 PM   #101 
                    - Parole officers have a specific need.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 02:09 PM   #120 
                       - All reports say Hain used a privately-owned 9mm  jgraz   Oct-13-09 02:20 PM   #131 
                          - So what?  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 03:34 PM   #152 
           - It was likely department issued.  Hoopla Phil   Oct-13-09 02:07 PM   #117 
              - Except for all the news reports that said it wasn't.  jgraz   Oct-13-09 02:49 PM   #140 
                 - K. So what is the relevance of this domestic violence (murder) have to  Hoopla Phil   Oct-13-09 04:24 PM   #185 
                 - You've said yourself that the husband was legally licensed to carry  jgraz   Oct-13-09 06:18 PM   #214 
                 - Still waiting.  Hoopla Phil   Oct-13-09 05:58 PM   #210 
        - That was a parole officer that shot his estranged wife. His pistol was very likely  Hoopla Phil   Oct-13-09 02:06 PM   #113 
           - Does anyone actually *read*?  jgraz   Oct-13-09 02:33 PM   #137 
              - Again, that doesn't rule out his service weapon.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 03:36 PM   #154 
              - We usually leave this sort of special pleading for the creationists  jgraz   Oct-13-09 03:43 PM   #159 
                 - Oh please, the news reports are almost ALWAYS wrong with inital reports of the type of weapon used.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 03:57 PM   #170 
                    - And there are GAPS in the news reports! Where's the missing link?  jgraz   Oct-13-09 03:58 PM   #171 
                       - Now you're just being silly.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 04:15 PM   #178 
                          - Huh? You're discounting the news reports with zero evidence of your own  jgraz   Oct-13-09 05:29 PM   #203 
                             - Yes. I have.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 05:33 PM   #205 
                                - "Most likely you and I differ on very little, beyond this one issue"  jgraz   Oct-13-09 05:35 PM   #207 
                                   - None at all, HAVE AT YOU SIR.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 05:41 PM   #208 
              - Talk about NOT READING.  Hoopla Phil   Oct-13-09 04:20 PM   #181 
              - He was a parole officer that carried a gun as part of his job. This incident has no  Hoopla Phil   Oct-13-09 04:23 PM   #182 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-13-09 05:34 PM   #206 
                    - Please explain how this murder in a home is relevant to licensed concealed carry.  Hoopla Phil   Oct-13-09 05:57 PM   #209 
     - Not the point. The POINT is that it would have been SAFER with MORE guns...  FormerDittoHead   Oct-13-09 01:33 PM   #34 
        - No  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 01:33 PM   #36 
        - Of course not. It's FREEDOM!  FormerDittoHead   Oct-13-09 01:37 PM   #49 
        - I think it would have been safer with more DRINKING  jgraz   Oct-13-09 01:42 PM   #63 
  - Too early to tell for sure  rrneck   Oct-13-09 01:35 PM   #41 
  - Local police in a TV interview said that this was a drug deal gone bad.  Hoopla Phil   Oct-13-09 02:09 PM   #121 
  - The presence of the bar in the state of Ohio, for one.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 01:35 PM   #42 
  - The local police said in a TV interview that this was a drug deal gone bad.  Hoopla Phil   Oct-13-09 02:05 PM   #110 
  - That might be correct but I don't know either way. Is there a link that clears that up?  ihavenobias   Oct-13-09 01:25 PM   #16 
  - No state allows people to carry firearms while drinking  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 01:29 PM   #26 
     - How many of the shooters did you see drinking?  jgraz   Oct-13-09 01:32 PM   #31 
     - What difference does that make?  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 01:35 PM   #40 
        - Sure, what difference does backing up your statements make?  jgraz   Oct-13-09 01:36 PM   #43 
           - Guns are already banned in bars in Ohio  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 01:37 PM   #50 
     - Arizona approves bill allowing guns in bars  ihavenobias   Oct-13-09 01:32 PM   #32 
        - It still won't allow them to drink while carrying  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 01:34 PM   #37 
           - How does the bartender know if it's 'concealed' weapons? n/t  ihavenobias   Oct-13-09 01:38 PM   #55 
              - It's not the bartender's job to enforce that law  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 01:41 PM   #61 
                 - That doesn't help your argument. That means people with guns WILL drink at times.  ihavenobias   Oct-13-09 01:45 PM   #71 
                 - And you assume that some people aren't already doing that now?  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 01:45 PM   #73 
                 - And you assume *more* people wouldn't do it if they didn't have to fear being arrested for it? n/t  ihavenobias   Oct-13-09 01:47 PM   #78 
                    - Why do you think they wouldn't fear being arrested for it?  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 01:57 PM   #95 
                       - But even assuming the gun carriers don't drink, everyone else is drinking.  ihavenobias   Oct-13-09 02:00 PM   #102 
                          - You are afraid that someone might assault the person carrying the gun  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 02:01 PM   #104 
                             - Well, if you really do care about the law it's about equal force in response to a threat.  ihavenobias   Oct-13-09 02:02 PM   #108 
                                - Of course, if a drunk throws a punch, a CCW holder could legally shoot him in most of these states  jgraz   Oct-13-09 02:07 PM   #116 
                                - A punch can be deadly force - Many people have died from being punched  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 02:10 PM   #123 
                                   - I'll take my chances worrying about death by punch, thanks. n/t  ihavenobias   Oct-13-09 02:11 PM   #125 
                                      - But then you'd miss your opportunity to shoot someone!  jgraz   Oct-13-09 02:21 PM   #132 
                                      - I support your freedom of choice  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 02:55 PM   #142 
                                         - So I have the "freedom" to choose to not go to bars in places with concealed carry? n/t  ihavenobias   Oct-13-09 03:16 PM   #148 
                                            - Yes. of course.  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 03:42 PM   #158 
                                            - Reminds me of secondhand smoke.  ihavenobias   Oct-13-09 04:01 PM   #172 
                 - You have that right now, already, in every state.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 01:49 PM   #80 
                    - I'm not saying we should outright ban guns. I also don't want drugs banned.  ihavenobias   Oct-13-09 01:53 PM   #87 
                       - If people were arguing to allow people drinking to have guns on their person  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 01:55 PM   #92 
                          - But even assuming the gun carriers don't drink, everyone else is drinking.  ihavenobias   Oct-13-09 01:58 PM   #99 
                             - There is only one legal justification for shooting someone.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 02:10 PM   #124 
                                - Which, I'm sure, is a great comfort to the person who just got shot.  jgraz   Oct-13-09 02:31 PM   #136 
                                   - Blah blah blah something whatever.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 03:40 PM   #155 
                 - That should...  uh clem   Oct-13-09 05:30 PM   #204 
  - Oh good: my rec cancels your unrec.  damntexdem   Oct-13-09 01:49 PM   #82 
  - Guns ARE NOT ALLOWED in bars in Ohio  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 04:57 PM   #193 
  - We knew you'd unrec. You dont have to explain. nt  rhett o rick   Oct-13-09 03:35 PM   #153 
  - But Cenk wasn't talking about concealed carry...  Jolly Sapper   Oct-13-09 04:24 PM   #184 
  - In context of recent news, it is obvious that jgraz was attempting to equate legal concealed carry..  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 04:56 PM   #192 
  - Riiigggggghhhhhhhhhttttttttt. You are so in denial. This insanity is ok  geckosfeet   Oct-13-09 04:51 PM   #189 
     - Straw Man  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 04:53 PM   #190 
        - Yes. If all the criminals were in prison. THEN we would need no guns right?  geckosfeet   Oct-13-09 05:09 PM   #198 
           - No, that's not right  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 05:16 PM   #201 
              - Beg to differ. But that's what makes the world go round.  geckosfeet   Oct-13-09 06:05 PM   #211 
                 - People would still need guns for things like varmint control, and their recreational uses are many  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 06:13 PM   #212 
  - Were the shooters carrying legally? nt  rrneck   Oct-13-09 01:19 PM   #4 
  - Since when do gun worshipers care about the law?  baldguy   Oct-13-09 01:21 PM   #7 
     - Since when are gun-grabbing monkeys able to distinguish between good guys and bad guys?  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 01:22 PM   #9 
     - Funny how this video prompts you to twice use the description "monkey"  jgraz   Oct-13-09 01:24 PM   # 
     - No, obviously my use of "monkey" was in response to "worshipers" and "fetisists"  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 01:27 PM   #19 
        - Funny, I don't recall you ever using the term before.  jgraz   Oct-13-09 01:28 PM   #23 
           - We have a truce in the Gungeon where divisive terms are generally not used  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 01:30 PM   #27 
              - "Gun worshiper" & "gun fetishist" are accurate descriptions.  baldguy   Oct-13-09 01:32 PM   #30 
              - I think gun-grabbing monkey is very accurate  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 01:36 PM   #44 
                 - Well, you brought it into the discussion.  baldguy   Oct-13-09 01:38 PM   #54 
              - Did this truce go into effect five minutes ago?  jgraz   Oct-13-09 01:37 PM   #51 
                 - And in just about every case it's the gun-grabbers who start the personal attacks  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 01:42 PM   #65 
                    - whaaaaaa  Howardx   Oct-13-09 01:49 PM   #79 
                       - +1  jgraz   Oct-13-09 01:53 PM   #86 
                       - +2  baldguy   Oct-13-09 01:54 PM   #90 
                       - I don't carry a gun  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 01:58 PM   #98 
                          - you own them though dont you?  Howardx   Oct-13-09 02:02 PM   #107 
                             - Yes, lots of them  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 02:57 PM   #143 
                                - yes im bigoted  Howardx   Oct-13-09 03:07 PM   #145 
                                   - You're also a bully who thinks he can read other peoples' thoughts  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 03:12 PM   #146 
                                      - It must suck for you to have to post outside the gun group  jgraz   Oct-13-09 03:19 PM   #150 
                                         - Your opinion seems to be that allowing guns in bars will lead to black gang-banger shootouts  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 03:41 PM   #156 
                                            - You, once again, are incapable of hiding your true beliefs  jgraz   Oct-13-09 03:47 PM   #163 
                                               - The reason I know they are gang-bangers is not because they are black  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 04:06 PM   #176 
                                               - Imagine this video with white kids  jgraz   Oct-13-09 04:36 PM   #186 
                                               - You have absolutely no factual basis for making such a statement  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 04:46 PM   #187 
                                               - Bull. That's the only type of gang banger we HAVE around here.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 05:01 PM   #194 
     - I wonder why you assume they were bad guys?  onehandle   Oct-13-09 01:24 PM   #14 
     - I don't  jgraz   Oct-13-09 01:25 PM   #15 
     - Their overt behavior  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 06:25 PM   #216 
     - "Bad guys" break the law.  baldguy   Oct-13-09 01:26 PM   #17 
     - They don't.  onehandle   Oct-13-09 01:23 PM   #12 
     - Aren't you sweet.  rrneck   Oct-13-09 01:27 PM   #20 
        - It was a response to being called a "fetishist"  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 01:28 PM   #22 
        - Huh? Did I miss something? nt  rrneck   Oct-13-09 01:43 PM   #67 
        - Oops, wrong spot. nt  rrneck   Oct-13-09 01:39 PM   #56 
  - Gun fetishists will show up with their usual laundry list of weak excuses. nt  onehandle   Oct-13-09 01:20 PM   #5 
  - Hilarious! Two weak excuses as I was posting my prediction!  onehandle   Oct-13-09 01:21 PM   #6 
  - Just wait. The RWrs start claiming to be "the new Jews" destined for a holocaust.  baldguy   Oct-13-09 01:24 PM   #13 
  - Weak excuses? You mean that every single person except perhaps the owner of the bar was breaking the  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 01:38 PM   #52 
  - Gun-grabbing monkeys equate lawful gun owners with violent criminals  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 01:21 PM   #8 
     - How can you tell the difference?  baldguy   Oct-13-09 01:29 PM   #24 
     - It's very simple, baldguy  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 01:30 PM   #28 
        - So the creeps who knowingly deliver firearms to violent criminals don't count?  baldguy   Oct-13-09 01:34 PM   #38 
           - That is illegal, so those people are not law-abiding  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 01:38 PM   #53 
              - So, selling to people who are criminals is wrong?  baldguy   Oct-13-09 01:42 PM   #64 
              - Wrong and illegal  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 01:45 PM   #72 
                 - But if the seller has reason to beleive the buyer can't pass a background check  baldguy   Oct-13-09 01:53 PM   #89 
                    - Your prejudices are already clear, baldguy  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 01:59 PM   #100 
                       - Get backed into a corner, toss out an ad hominem attack, eh?  baldguy   Oct-13-09 02:04 PM   #109 
                          - The first ad hominem in this thread was directed at me  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 02:08 PM   #118 
                             - Yeah, you're really the type of person who NEEDS to carry a gun.  baldguy   Oct-13-09 02:12 PM   #126 
                             - In reply #6, onehandle calls the *excuses* weak -- AFTER you unrec for "deception"  jgraz   Oct-13-09 02:16 PM   #128 
                                - Stop calling him a crybaby! He might start crying!  baldguy   Oct-13-09 02:20 PM   #130 
                                - You created the deception, I called it first.  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 02:54 PM   #141 
                                   - Were you actually crying when you typed this?  jgraz   Oct-13-09 02:59 PM   #144 
                                      - Were you a bully when you were in elementary school?  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 03:13 PM   #147 
                                         - So... that's a "yes"?  jgraz   Oct-13-09 03:18 PM   #149 
                                            - No, actually I have been LOL  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 03:43 PM   #160 
              - So I'm sure you're in favor of the 48-hour reporting requirement  jgraz   Oct-13-09 01:44 PM   #70 
                 - Are you in favor of a 48-hour reporting requirement for rape victims to notify law enforcement?  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 01:46 PM   #75 
                    - Are you still abusing rape victims with this offensive and borderline sociopathic comparison?  jgraz   Oct-13-09 01:51 PM   #85 
     - since you can't tell by looking who is an asshole or not ....  Scout   Oct-13-09 01:29 PM   #25 
  - Cenk really pisses me off sometimes.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 01:33 PM   #33 
  - Another load of weak excuses and rationalization.  onehandle   Oct-13-09 01:36 PM   #46 
  - I just called ever person in that video with a firearm a criminal.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 01:40 PM   #59 
     - Oh great, thanks to that "FU" this thread will soon be locked.  ihavenobias   Oct-13-09 01:46 PM   #76 
        - Redacted.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 01:50 PM   #84 
  - and who would you have shot?  nosferaustin   Oct-13-09 01:37 PM   #47 
  - The video isn't terribly clear, tunnel vision and all that  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 01:41 PM   #62 
     - and you'd be able to distinguish  nosferaustin   Oct-13-09 02:14 PM   #127 
        - There is always risk  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 03:31 PM   #151 
  - But hold on a second  ihavenobias   Oct-13-09 01:37 PM   #48 
     - Nobody is propsing making it legal to drink while carrying a weapon  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 01:39 PM   #58 
     - But they are CONCEALED weapons, so how does the bartender know not to serve people w/ guns?  ihavenobias   Oct-13-09 01:43 PM   #66 
        - It's not the bar owner's business.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 01:47 PM   #77 
           - Don't make the mistake of generalizing from your experience to make assumptions about bar-fights.  ihavenobias   Oct-13-09 01:49 PM   #81 
              - It shouldn't be.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 01:53 PM   #88 
     - It doesn't matter if concealed carry is allowed in bars or not.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 01:44 PM   #69 
     - "Why shouldn't this incident make people uncomfortable with...the right to carry concealed in bars?"  baldguy   Oct-13-09 01:58 PM   #97 
        - It has no bearing. All of these people were breaking the law. Period.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 03:42 PM   #157 
  - If their god is guns that might explain their interpretation of the bible.  ProgressOnTheMove   Oct-13-09 01:34 PM   #39 
  - Gun worshipers live in a fantasy world.  baldguy   Oct-13-09 01:36 PM   #45 
     - Than why do gun control advocates..  virginia mountainman   Oct-13-09 01:45 PM   #74 
  - LOL Do you realize..  virginia mountainman   Oct-13-09 01:44 PM   #68 
  - How did you know they were "gang bangers"?  jgraz   Oct-13-09 01:54 PM   #91 
     - One of them tried to sell drugs to a bar employee  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 02:05 PM   #112 
     - He tried to sell pot.  jgraz   Oct-13-09 02:10 PM   #122 
        - People who go around unlawfully armed with the intent to commit crimes are gang-bangers  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 03:44 PM   #161 
     - According to Cenk, one of the group of three shooting in from the door, was a drug dealer.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 02:07 PM   #115 
  - UnRec for deception. These people were NOT legally carrying. In FACT this was a drug  Hoopla Phil   Oct-13-09 02:02 PM   #106 
  - Nobody said they were legally carrying.  jgraz   Oct-13-09 02:05 PM   #111 
     - You implied that they were legally carrying in the way you presented the OP  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 02:07 PM   #114 
     - Nope. I implied that guns in bars is a bad idea.  jgraz   Oct-13-09 02:08 PM   #119 
        - Busted and won't admit it. nt  rrneck   Oct-13-09 02:19 PM   #129 
        - Looks like your reality-distortion field extends to more than just guns.  jgraz   Oct-13-09 02:22 PM   #134 
           - Your appears to be affecting your aim.  rrneck   Oct-13-09 02:25 PM   #135 
        - Guns in bars, in the hands of criminals is sure a bad idea.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 03:48 PM   #165 
        - It's all right, we're used to deception and obfuscation on this issue  friendly_iconoclast   Oct-13-09 03:52 PM   #167 
     - Hahaa look at you.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 03:47 PM   #164 
     - This incident has NO connection to legally carrying with a permit. These were DRUG DEALERS!!!  Hoopla Phil   Oct-13-09 04:16 PM   #179 
        - And jgraz has yet to acknowledge that they were criminals before they started shooting  slackmaster   Oct-13-09 06:48 PM   #219 
  - Guns are NOT allowed in OH bars - which as you say,. works out as expected  dmallind   Oct-13-09 02:21 PM   #133 
  - Let me see  droidamus2   Oct-13-09 02:42 PM   #138 
  - The point is more subtle.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 03:52 PM   #166 
  - But why do you feel this way?  gorfle   Oct-13-09 03:56 PM   #169 
  - Young...dumb...and full of...  KansDem   Oct-13-09 02:44 PM   #139 
  - So full of crap in so many ways.  gorfle   Oct-13-09 03:46 PM   #162 
  - LOL. Rationalization is the key to happiness. So if those that fled had fire arms then they could  rhett o rick   Oct-13-09 03:53 PM   #168 
  - And that is your choice.  gorfle   Oct-13-09 04:02 PM   #173 
  - Let me understand. If you were allowed to carry legally it would not have helped in this case?  rhett o rick   Oct-13-09 04:05 PM   #175 
     - Who knows?  gorfle   Oct-13-09 04:12 PM   #177 
     - I think the outcome may have been different. Maybe not.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 05:04 PM   #195 
  - Try as you may, you can't outrun a bullet.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 04:03 PM   #174 
     - What a terribly sad situation. Grandma you better carry a gun because you cant run. Sad. nt  rhett o rick   Oct-13-09 04:24 PM   #183 
        - It is unfortunate, I agree.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 04:47 PM   #188 
        - That is one reason I and my wife carry.  GreenStormCloud   Oct-13-09 06:52 PM   #222 
  - Errrrr. Yeah. I would love be in a shoot out. Sure. I would love it.  geckosfeet   Oct-13-09 04:54 PM   #191 
     - The only thing I can think of that is worse than getting into a gunfight  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 05:06 PM   #196 
        - Agree.  geckosfeet   Oct-13-09 05:10 PM   #199 
  - Well... that didn't take long...  fascisthunter   Oct-13-09 04:19 PM   #180 
  - Exhibit A for the deception of the thread title, and Cenk's portrayal of the incident.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-13-09 05:08 PM   #197 
  - Yes we have this law in Tn. I am waiting to hear about a redneck getting  southernyankeebelle   Oct-13-09 05:13 PM   #200 
  - What makes you think it hasn't happened already?  jgraz   Oct-13-09 05:27 PM   #202 
  - Why would anybody go to a bar nowadays? nt  valerief   Oct-13-09 06:16 PM   #213 
  - To practice shooting, of course.  jgraz   Oct-13-09 06:21 PM   #215 
     - LOL!  valerief   Oct-13-09 06:26 PM   #217 
     - WWCCWJS...?  xocet   Oct-13-09 07:01 PM   #224 
  - I alerted on this.  proteus_lives   Oct-13-09 06:37 PM   #218 
  - and more pants-wetting from the gundamentalists  jgraz   Oct-13-09 06:50 PM   #220 
     - I like opposing opinions, they don't bother me.  proteus_lives   Oct-13-09 06:52 PM   #221 
        - Oh, QQ some more  jgraz   Oct-13-09 07:00 PM   #223 
  - Clearly a fake, couldn't have happened  Redneck Socialist   Oct-13-09 07:11 PM   #225 
  - Locking  petersond   Oct-13-09 07:13 PM   #226 
 

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