| 107. you own them though dont you? |
| -TYT: Guns in bars working out about as well as expected |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 01:03 PM |
#0 |
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Maybe those Libertarians should all move to Toledo! |
Crowman1979 |
Oct-13-09 01:11 PM |
#1 |
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well, now, if we would just allow "open carry" of Thompson submachine guns, the first guy could've |
villager |
Oct-13-09 01:12 PM |
#2 |
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Unrec for deception - Incident depicted in video has nothing to do with lawful concealed carry |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 01:17 PM |
#3 |
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Of course it doesn't |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 01:22 PM |
#10 |
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Their overt behavor which is clearly shown in the video |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 01:23 PM |
#11 |
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Obviously.. Legal carriers only shoot at their spouses. |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 01:26 PM |
#18 |
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Nice broad-brush attack with nothing to back it up |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 01:27 PM |
#21 |
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We've just seen two legal carriers in a murder-suicide. |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 01:31 PM |
#29 |
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That was a domestic violence incident that had nothing to do with the victim have a permit to carry |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 01:33 PM |
#35 |
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Are you saying her husband got his gun illegally? |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 01:39 PM |
#57 |
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No, he was a law enforcement professional |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 01:40 PM |
#60 |
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He was a parole officer. |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 01:50 PM |
#83 |
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Would you feel better if he'd used a department-issued weapon? |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 01:56 PM |
#93 |
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No, but you would |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 01:57 PM |
#96 |
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No, I would not |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 02:00 PM |
#103 |
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You're happy to use the assumption in your arguments |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 02:01 PM |
#105 |
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Yeah. Law enforcement. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 01:57 PM |
#94 |
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They are usually issued as many firearms as I am |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 01:59 PM |
#101 |
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Parole officers have a specific need. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 02:09 PM |
#120 |
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All reports say Hain used a privately-owned 9mm |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 02:20 PM |
#131 |
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So what? |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 03:34 PM |
#152 |
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It was likely department issued. |
Hoopla Phil |
Oct-13-09 02:07 PM |
#117 |
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Except for all the news reports that said it wasn't. |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 02:49 PM |
#140 |
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K. So what is the relevance of this domestic violence (murder) have to |
Hoopla Phil |
Oct-13-09 04:24 PM |
#185 |
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You've said yourself that the husband was legally licensed to carry |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 06:18 PM |
#214 |
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Still waiting. |
Hoopla Phil |
Oct-13-09 05:58 PM |
#210 |
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That was a parole officer that shot his estranged wife. His pistol was very likely |
Hoopla Phil |
Oct-13-09 02:06 PM |
#113 |
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Does anyone actually *read*? |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 02:33 PM |
#137 |
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Again, that doesn't rule out his service weapon. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 03:36 PM |
#154 |
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We usually leave this sort of special pleading for the creationists |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 03:43 PM |
#159 |
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Oh please, the news reports are almost ALWAYS wrong with inital reports of the type of weapon used. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 03:57 PM |
#170 |
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And there are GAPS in the news reports! Where's the missing link? |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 03:58 PM |
#171 |
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Now you're just being silly. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 04:15 PM |
#178 |
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Huh? You're discounting the news reports with zero evidence of your own |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 05:29 PM |
#203 |
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Yes. I have. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 05:33 PM |
#205 |
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"Most likely you and I differ on very little, beyond this one issue" |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 05:35 PM |
#207 |
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None at all, HAVE AT YOU SIR. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 05:41 PM |
#208 |
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Talk about NOT READING. |
Hoopla Phil |
Oct-13-09 04:20 PM |
#181 |
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He was a parole officer that carried a gun as part of his job. This incident has no |
Hoopla Phil |
Oct-13-09 04:23 PM |
#182 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-13-09 05:34 PM |
#206 |
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Please explain how this murder in a home is relevant to licensed concealed carry. |
Hoopla Phil |
Oct-13-09 05:57 PM |
#209 |
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Not the point. The POINT is that it would have been SAFER with MORE guns... |
FormerDittoHead |
Oct-13-09 01:33 PM |
#34 |
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No |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 01:33 PM |
#36 |
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Of course not. It's FREEDOM! |
FormerDittoHead |
Oct-13-09 01:37 PM |
#49 |
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I think it would have been safer with more DRINKING |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 01:42 PM |
#63 |
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Too early to tell for sure |
rrneck |
Oct-13-09 01:35 PM |
#41 |
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Local police in a TV interview said that this was a drug deal gone bad. |
Hoopla Phil |
Oct-13-09 02:09 PM |
#121 |
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The presence of the bar in the state of Ohio, for one. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 01:35 PM |
#42 |
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The local police said in a TV interview that this was a drug deal gone bad. |
Hoopla Phil |
Oct-13-09 02:05 PM |
#110 |
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That might be correct but I don't know either way. Is there a link that clears that up? |
ihavenobias |
Oct-13-09 01:25 PM |
#16 |
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No state allows people to carry firearms while drinking |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 01:29 PM |
#26 |
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How many of the shooters did you see drinking? |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 01:32 PM |
#31 |
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What difference does that make? |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 01:35 PM |
#40 |
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Sure, what difference does backing up your statements make? |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 01:36 PM |
#43 |
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Guns are already banned in bars in Ohio |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 01:37 PM |
#50 |
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Arizona approves bill allowing guns in bars |
ihavenobias |
Oct-13-09 01:32 PM |
#32 |
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It still won't allow them to drink while carrying |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 01:34 PM |
#37 |
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How does the bartender know if it's 'concealed' weapons? n/t |
ihavenobias |
Oct-13-09 01:38 PM |
#55 |
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It's not the bartender's job to enforce that law |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 01:41 PM |
#61 |
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That doesn't help your argument. That means people with guns WILL drink at times. |
ihavenobias |
Oct-13-09 01:45 PM |
#71 |
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And you assume that some people aren't already doing that now? |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 01:45 PM |
#73 |
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And you assume *more* people wouldn't do it if they didn't have to fear being arrested for it? n/t |
ihavenobias |
Oct-13-09 01:47 PM |
#78 |
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Why do you think they wouldn't fear being arrested for it? |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 01:57 PM |
#95 |
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But even assuming the gun carriers don't drink, everyone else is drinking. |
ihavenobias |
Oct-13-09 02:00 PM |
#102 |
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You are afraid that someone might assault the person carrying the gun |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 02:01 PM |
#104 |
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Well, if you really do care about the law it's about equal force in response to a threat. |
ihavenobias |
Oct-13-09 02:02 PM |
#108 |
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Of course, if a drunk throws a punch, a CCW holder could legally shoot him in most of these states |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 02:07 PM |
#116 |
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A punch can be deadly force - Many people have died from being punched |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 02:10 PM |
#123 |
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I'll take my chances worrying about death by punch, thanks. n/t |
ihavenobias |
Oct-13-09 02:11 PM |
#125 |
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But then you'd miss your opportunity to shoot someone! |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 02:21 PM |
#132 |
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I support your freedom of choice |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 02:55 PM |
#142 |
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So I have the "freedom" to choose to not go to bars in places with concealed carry? n/t |
ihavenobias |
Oct-13-09 03:16 PM |
#148 |
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Yes. of course. |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 03:42 PM |
#158 |
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Reminds me of secondhand smoke. |
ihavenobias |
Oct-13-09 04:01 PM |
#172 |
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You have that right now, already, in every state. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 01:49 PM |
#80 |
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I'm not saying we should outright ban guns. I also don't want drugs banned. |
ihavenobias |
Oct-13-09 01:53 PM |
#87 |
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If people were arguing to allow people drinking to have guns on their person |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 01:55 PM |
#92 |
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But even assuming the gun carriers don't drink, everyone else is drinking. |
ihavenobias |
Oct-13-09 01:58 PM |
#99 |
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There is only one legal justification for shooting someone. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 02:10 PM |
#124 |
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Which, I'm sure, is a great comfort to the person who just got shot. |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 02:31 PM |
#136 |
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Blah blah blah something whatever. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 03:40 PM |
#155 |
| -
That should... |
uh clem |
Oct-13-09 05:30 PM |
#204 |
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Oh good: my rec cancels your unrec. |
damntexdem |
Oct-13-09 01:49 PM |
#82 |
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Guns ARE NOT ALLOWED in bars in Ohio |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 04:57 PM |
#193 |
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We knew you'd unrec. You dont have to explain. nt |
rhett o rick |
Oct-13-09 03:35 PM |
#153 |
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But Cenk wasn't talking about concealed carry... |
Jolly Sapper |
Oct-13-09 04:24 PM |
#184 |
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In context of recent news, it is obvious that jgraz was attempting to equate legal concealed carry.. |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 04:56 PM |
#192 |
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Riiigggggghhhhhhhhhttttttttt. You are so in denial. This insanity is ok |
geckosfeet |
Oct-13-09 04:51 PM |
#189 |
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Straw Man |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 04:53 PM |
#190 |
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Yes. If all the criminals were in prison. THEN we would need no guns right? |
geckosfeet |
Oct-13-09 05:09 PM |
#198 |
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No, that's not right |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 05:16 PM |
#201 |
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Beg to differ. But that's what makes the world go round. |
geckosfeet |
Oct-13-09 06:05 PM |
#211 |
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People would still need guns for things like varmint control, and their recreational uses are many |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 06:13 PM |
#212 |
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Were the shooters carrying legally? nt |
rrneck |
Oct-13-09 01:19 PM |
#4 |
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Since when do gun worshipers care about the law? |
baldguy |
Oct-13-09 01:21 PM |
#7 |
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Since when are gun-grabbing monkeys able to distinguish between good guys and bad guys? |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 01:22 PM |
#9 |
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Funny how this video prompts you to twice use the description "monkey" |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 01:24 PM |
# |
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No, obviously my use of "monkey" was in response to "worshipers" and "fetisists" |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 01:27 PM |
#19 |
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Funny, I don't recall you ever using the term before. |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 01:28 PM |
#23 |
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We have a truce in the Gungeon where divisive terms are generally not used |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 01:30 PM |
#27 |
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"Gun worshiper" & "gun fetishist" are accurate descriptions. |
baldguy |
Oct-13-09 01:32 PM |
#30 |
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I think gun-grabbing monkey is very accurate |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 01:36 PM |
#44 |
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Well, you brought it into the discussion. |
baldguy |
Oct-13-09 01:38 PM |
#54 |
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Did this truce go into effect five minutes ago? |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 01:37 PM |
#51 |
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And in just about every case it's the gun-grabbers who start the personal attacks |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 01:42 PM |
#65 |
| -
whaaaaaa |
Howardx |
Oct-13-09 01:49 PM |
#79 |
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+1 |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 01:53 PM |
#86 |
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+2 |
baldguy |
Oct-13-09 01:54 PM |
#90 |
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I don't carry a gun |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 01:58 PM |
#98 |
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you own them though dont you? |
Howardx |
Oct-13-09 02:02 PM |
#107 |
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Yes, lots of them |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 02:57 PM |
#143 |
| -
yes im bigoted |
Howardx |
Oct-13-09 03:07 PM |
#145 |
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You're also a bully who thinks he can read other peoples' thoughts |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 03:12 PM |
#146 |
| -
It must suck for you to have to post outside the gun group |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 03:19 PM |
#150 |
| -
Your opinion seems to be that allowing guns in bars will lead to black gang-banger shootouts |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 03:41 PM |
#156 |
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You, once again, are incapable of hiding your true beliefs |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 03:47 PM |
#163 |
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The reason I know they are gang-bangers is not because they are black |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 04:06 PM |
#176 |
| -
Imagine this video with white kids |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 04:36 PM |
#186 |
| -
You have absolutely no factual basis for making such a statement |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 04:46 PM |
#187 |
| -
Bull. That's the only type of gang banger we HAVE around here. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 05:01 PM |
#194 |
| -
I wonder why you assume they were bad guys? |
onehandle |
Oct-13-09 01:24 PM |
#14 |
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I don't |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 01:25 PM |
#15 |
| -
Their overt behavior |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 06:25 PM |
#216 |
| -
"Bad guys" break the law. |
baldguy |
Oct-13-09 01:26 PM |
#17 |
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They don't. |
onehandle |
Oct-13-09 01:23 PM |
#12 |
| -
Aren't you sweet. |
rrneck |
Oct-13-09 01:27 PM |
#20 |
| -
It was a response to being called a "fetishist" |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 01:28 PM |
#22 |
| -
Huh? Did I miss something? nt |
rrneck |
Oct-13-09 01:43 PM |
#67 |
| -
Oops, wrong spot. nt |
rrneck |
Oct-13-09 01:39 PM |
#56 |
| -
Gun fetishists will show up with their usual laundry list of weak excuses. nt |
onehandle |
Oct-13-09 01:20 PM |
#5 |
| -
Hilarious! Two weak excuses as I was posting my prediction! |
onehandle |
Oct-13-09 01:21 PM |
#6 |
| -
Just wait. The RWrs start claiming to be "the new Jews" destined for a holocaust. |
baldguy |
Oct-13-09 01:24 PM |
#13 |
| -
Weak excuses? You mean that every single person except perhaps the owner of the bar was breaking the |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 01:38 PM |
#52 |
| -
Gun-grabbing monkeys equate lawful gun owners with violent criminals |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 01:21 PM |
#8 |
| -
How can you tell the difference? |
baldguy |
Oct-13-09 01:29 PM |
#24 |
| -
It's very simple, baldguy |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 01:30 PM |
#28 |
| -
So the creeps who knowingly deliver firearms to violent criminals don't count? |
baldguy |
Oct-13-09 01:34 PM |
#38 |
| -
That is illegal, so those people are not law-abiding |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 01:38 PM |
#53 |
| -
So, selling to people who are criminals is wrong? |
baldguy |
Oct-13-09 01:42 PM |
#64 |
| -
Wrong and illegal |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 01:45 PM |
#72 |
| -
But if the seller has reason to beleive the buyer can't pass a background check |
baldguy |
Oct-13-09 01:53 PM |
#89 |
| -
Your prejudices are already clear, baldguy |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 01:59 PM |
#100 |
| -
Get backed into a corner, toss out an ad hominem attack, eh? |
baldguy |
Oct-13-09 02:04 PM |
#109 |
| -
The first ad hominem in this thread was directed at me |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 02:08 PM |
#118 |
| -
Yeah, you're really the type of person who NEEDS to carry a gun. |
baldguy |
Oct-13-09 02:12 PM |
#126 |
| -
In reply #6, onehandle calls the *excuses* weak -- AFTER you unrec for "deception" |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 02:16 PM |
#128 |
| -
Stop calling him a crybaby! He might start crying! |
baldguy |
Oct-13-09 02:20 PM |
#130 |
| -
You created the deception, I called it first. |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 02:54 PM |
#141 |
| -
Were you actually crying when you typed this? |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 02:59 PM |
#144 |
| -
Were you a bully when you were in elementary school? |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 03:13 PM |
#147 |
| -
So... that's a "yes"? |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 03:18 PM |
#149 |
| -
No, actually I have been LOL |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 03:43 PM |
#160 |
| -
So I'm sure you're in favor of the 48-hour reporting requirement |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 01:44 PM |
#70 |
| -
Are you in favor of a 48-hour reporting requirement for rape victims to notify law enforcement? |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 01:46 PM |
#75 |
| -
Are you still abusing rape victims with this offensive and borderline sociopathic comparison? |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 01:51 PM |
#85 |
| -
since you can't tell by looking who is an asshole or not .... |
Scout |
Oct-13-09 01:29 PM |
#25 |
| -
Cenk really pisses me off sometimes. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 01:33 PM |
#33 |
| -
Another load of weak excuses and rationalization. |
onehandle |
Oct-13-09 01:36 PM |
#46 |
| -
I just called ever person in that video with a firearm a criminal. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 01:40 PM |
#59 |
| -
Oh great, thanks to that "FU" this thread will soon be locked. |
ihavenobias |
Oct-13-09 01:46 PM |
#76 |
| -
Redacted. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 01:50 PM |
#84 |
| -
and who would you have shot? |
nosferaustin |
Oct-13-09 01:37 PM |
#47 |
| -
The video isn't terribly clear, tunnel vision and all that |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 01:41 PM |
#62 |
| -
and you'd be able to distinguish |
nosferaustin |
Oct-13-09 02:14 PM |
#127 |
| -
There is always risk |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 03:31 PM |
#151 |
| -
But hold on a second |
ihavenobias |
Oct-13-09 01:37 PM |
#48 |
| -
Nobody is propsing making it legal to drink while carrying a weapon |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 01:39 PM |
#58 |
| -
But they are CONCEALED weapons, so how does the bartender know not to serve people w/ guns? |
ihavenobias |
Oct-13-09 01:43 PM |
#66 |
| -
It's not the bar owner's business. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 01:47 PM |
#77 |
| -
Don't make the mistake of generalizing from your experience to make assumptions about bar-fights. |
ihavenobias |
Oct-13-09 01:49 PM |
#81 |
| -
It shouldn't be. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 01:53 PM |
#88 |
| -
It doesn't matter if concealed carry is allowed in bars or not. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 01:44 PM |
#69 |
| -
"Why shouldn't this incident make people uncomfortable with...the right to carry concealed in bars?" |
baldguy |
Oct-13-09 01:58 PM |
#97 |
| -
It has no bearing. All of these people were breaking the law. Period. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 03:42 PM |
#157 |
| -
If their god is guns that might explain their interpretation of the bible. |
ProgressOnTheMove |
Oct-13-09 01:34 PM |
#39 |
| -
Gun worshipers live in a fantasy world. |
baldguy |
Oct-13-09 01:36 PM |
#45 |
| -
Than why do gun control advocates.. |
virginia mountainman |
Oct-13-09 01:45 PM |
#74 |
| -
LOL Do you realize.. |
virginia mountainman |
Oct-13-09 01:44 PM |
#68 |
| -
How did you know they were "gang bangers"? |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 01:54 PM |
#91 |
| -
One of them tried to sell drugs to a bar employee |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 02:05 PM |
#112 |
| -
He tried to sell pot. |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 02:10 PM |
#122 |
| -
People who go around unlawfully armed with the intent to commit crimes are gang-bangers |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 03:44 PM |
#161 |
| -
According to Cenk, one of the group of three shooting in from the door, was a drug dealer. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 02:07 PM |
#115 |
| -
UnRec for deception. These people were NOT legally carrying. In FACT this was a drug |
Hoopla Phil |
Oct-13-09 02:02 PM |
#106 |
| -
Nobody said they were legally carrying. |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 02:05 PM |
#111 |
| -
You implied that they were legally carrying in the way you presented the OP |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 02:07 PM |
#114 |
| -
Nope. I implied that guns in bars is a bad idea. |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 02:08 PM |
#119 |
| -
Busted and won't admit it. nt |
rrneck |
Oct-13-09 02:19 PM |
#129 |
| -
Looks like your reality-distortion field extends to more than just guns. |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 02:22 PM |
#134 |
| -
Your appears to be affecting your aim. |
rrneck |
Oct-13-09 02:25 PM |
#135 |
| -
Guns in bars, in the hands of criminals is sure a bad idea. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 03:48 PM |
#165 |
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It's all right, we're used to deception and obfuscation on this issue |
friendly_iconoclast |
Oct-13-09 03:52 PM |
#167 |
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Hahaa look at you. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 03:47 PM |
#164 |
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This incident has NO connection to legally carrying with a permit. These were DRUG DEALERS!!! |
Hoopla Phil |
Oct-13-09 04:16 PM |
#179 |
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And jgraz has yet to acknowledge that they were criminals before they started shooting |
slackmaster |
Oct-13-09 06:48 PM |
#219 |
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Guns are NOT allowed in OH bars - which as you say,. works out as expected |
dmallind |
Oct-13-09 02:21 PM |
#133 |
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Let me see |
droidamus2 |
Oct-13-09 02:42 PM |
#138 |
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The point is more subtle. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 03:52 PM |
#166 |
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But why do you feel this way? |
gorfle |
Oct-13-09 03:56 PM |
#169 |
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Young...dumb...and full of... |
KansDem |
Oct-13-09 02:44 PM |
#139 |
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So full of crap in so many ways. |
gorfle |
Oct-13-09 03:46 PM |
#162 |
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LOL. Rationalization is the key to happiness. So if those that fled had fire arms then they could |
rhett o rick |
Oct-13-09 03:53 PM |
#168 |
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And that is your choice. |
gorfle |
Oct-13-09 04:02 PM |
#173 |
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Let me understand. If you were allowed to carry legally it would not have helped in this case? |
rhett o rick |
Oct-13-09 04:05 PM |
#175 |
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Who knows? |
gorfle |
Oct-13-09 04:12 PM |
#177 |
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I think the outcome may have been different. Maybe not. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 05:04 PM |
#195 |
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Try as you may, you can't outrun a bullet. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 04:03 PM |
#174 |
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What a terribly sad situation. Grandma you better carry a gun because you cant run. Sad. nt |
rhett o rick |
Oct-13-09 04:24 PM |
#183 |
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It is unfortunate, I agree. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 04:47 PM |
#188 |
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That is one reason I and my wife carry. |
GreenStormCloud |
Oct-13-09 06:52 PM |
#222 |
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Errrrr. Yeah. I would love be in a shoot out. Sure. I would love it. |
geckosfeet |
Oct-13-09 04:54 PM |
#191 |
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The only thing I can think of that is worse than getting into a gunfight |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 05:06 PM |
#196 |
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Agree. |
geckosfeet |
Oct-13-09 05:10 PM |
#199 |
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Well... that didn't take long... |
fascisthunter |
Oct-13-09 04:19 PM |
#180 |
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Exhibit A for the deception of the thread title, and Cenk's portrayal of the incident. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-13-09 05:08 PM |
#197 |
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Yes we have this law in Tn. I am waiting to hear about a redneck getting |
southernyankeebelle |
Oct-13-09 05:13 PM |
#200 |
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What makes you think it hasn't happened already? |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 05:27 PM |
#202 |
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Why would anybody go to a bar nowadays? nt |
valerief |
Oct-13-09 06:16 PM |
#213 |
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To practice shooting, of course. |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 06:21 PM |
#215 |
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LOL! |
valerief |
Oct-13-09 06:26 PM |
#217 |
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WWCCWJS...? |
xocet |
Oct-13-09 07:01 PM |
#224 |
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I alerted on this. |
proteus_lives |
Oct-13-09 06:37 PM |
#218 |
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and more pants-wetting from the gundamentalists |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 06:50 PM |
#220 |
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I like opposing opinions, they don't bother me. |
proteus_lives |
Oct-13-09 06:52 PM |
#221 |
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Oh, QQ some more |
jgraz |
Oct-13-09 07:00 PM |
#223 |
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Clearly a fake, couldn't have happened |
Redneck Socialist |
Oct-13-09 07:11 PM |
#225 |
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Locking |
petersond |
Oct-13-09 07:13 PM |
#226 |
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