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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 08:06 PM
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12. you suffer from ideology.
Your argument is to say governmental control is bad, but you do not offer the argument that started that ideology. That argument has some validity. Things like competition in the private sector make for more efficient ways to deliver products.

But you can no longer make those arguments, because the private sector by pooling money and using it to set up societal control mechanisms by lobbing congress and using intimidation no longer fits the arguments for private sector. Private sector has become a governance system. It is not free market, it is governance, one share of stock one vote, then using the system to set social laws. Is the plutocracy government system bad also?

The private sector is a governing body when used to set social policy, and that governance control has the wrong motives to work well when setting social policy.

Look at your post, really read it, where did you make an argument against what you say is bad.

Power grab -- If your argument is against power grab, you are making an ideological argument, you do not argue where that power should be shared, only that you see it moving from one place to another. You do not explain why CEOs working together to make laws is an acceptable power.

judged on results not theories -- Results of current system, people dying without insurance, people with insurance not getting care after getting sick, large profits for some sectors that skim money paid for health care. There are some other results also, because profit first does not have a moral component deception and advocating violence is part of that argument also. Also if you compare the results of National health care countries, Britain, France, Sweden, Nicaragua, Israel, Cuba, and many other countries, you will see you are only arguing for an ideology.


(Many CEOs just want to run a company, they don't want to be part of running society, they want to do whatever the particular task their company was set up to do. And many have high morale standards and use those standards in their actions. This comment is not saying wealthy people are bad, it is only saying that when systems of wealth set up non representative governance control, that system is bad.)
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