| 14. Here's the story behind it. They tried to arrest the lawyer involved. |
| -TX Cops Get Busted |
DeSwiss |
Dec-07-08 07:57 AM |
#0 |
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This is a GREAT story. |
annabanana |
Dec-07-08 07:59 AM |
#1 |
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He's a former.... |
DeSwiss |
Dec-07-08 08:15 AM |
#3 |
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Amazing..... |
midnight |
Dec-07-08 08:02 AM |
#2 |
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K&R |
cosmik debris |
Dec-07-08 08:32 AM |
#4 |
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Oh, WOW |
itsjustme |
Dec-07-08 08:55 AM |
#5 |
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Lying cops.... |
DeSwiss |
Dec-07-08 09:31 AM |
#8 |
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Texas cops are notoriously corrupt |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Dec-07-08 09:20 AM |
#6 |
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I once saw a posting at a Texas lawyer's website.... |
DeSwiss |
Dec-07-08 09:36 AM |
#9 |
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I recall a story about a Dallas prosecutor who bragged that, "Any prosecutor |
gbrooks |
Dec-08-08 02:37 AM |
#193 |
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Tulia |
LostinVA |
Dec-07-08 04:47 PM |
#82 |
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According to the bible...weed is cool...its OK...but them churchy dudes decided otherwise |
opihimoimoi |
Dec-07-08 09:29 AM |
#7 |
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Yep. There's no doubt about that. |
DeSwiss |
Dec-07-08 09:37 AM |
#10 |
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Jesus used Marijuana! |
AlbertCat |
Dec-07-08 10:39 AM |
#11 |
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OMG! What a great idea! K&R! |
Joanne98 |
Dec-07-08 10:57 AM |
#12 |
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There is just one catch.... |
TheEuclideanOne |
Dec-07-08 11:16 AM |
#13 |
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Here's the story behind it. They tried to arrest the lawyer involved. |
punkin87 |
Dec-07-08 11:27 AM |
#14 |
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Thanks for the link! Without it I have to say I'm either an idiot or the rpeort was unclear. |
ihavenobias |
Dec-07-08 12:14 PM |
#17 |
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You were not alone. |
ejbr |
Dec-07-08 05:55 PM |
#142 |
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Thanks!!! |
DeSwiss |
Dec-07-08 02:23 PM |
#30 |
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Let's clean up this country from top to bottom and bottom to top!! |
Hulk |
Dec-07-08 12:07 PM |
#15 |
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Agreed. |
DeSwiss |
Dec-07-08 02:26 PM |
#31 |
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I am curious |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 12:13 PM |
#16 |
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The cops used illegal methods to get a warrant. |
20score |
Dec-07-08 12:35 PM |
#19 |
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Do we know that for sure |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 12:49 PM |
#21 |
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If you had looked it explains itself. |
ThePowerofWill |
Dec-07-08 01:08 PM |
#23 |
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Thanks for getting my back. I thought it was pretty obvious, myself. |
20score |
Dec-07-08 01:27 PM |
#26 |
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No prblem. |
ThePowerofWill |
Dec-07-08 01:38 PM |
#27 |
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Show me your evidence |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 03:26 PM |
#40 |
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What would you accept as evidence? |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 03:38 PM |
#47 |
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Silliness! |
wildbilln864 |
Dec-07-08 09:27 PM |
#184 |
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Here ya go! |
DeSwiss |
Dec-07-08 02:28 PM |
#32 |
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You mean this? |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 03:21 PM |
#39 |
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Really? You really don't get it? Wow! |
20score |
Dec-07-08 03:31 PM |
#41 |
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no |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 03:33 PM |
#42 |
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What would you accept as proof? |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 03:37 PM |
#45 |
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You were already shown the evidence. You chose to ignore it. |
20score |
Dec-07-08 03:38 PM |
#46 |
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that was not proof |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 03:42 PM |
#49 |
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You still haven't explained what you would accept as proof. |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 03:48 PM |
#51 |
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Violation of the Fourth Amendment right -- the warrant was |
JDPriestly |
Dec-07-08 04:10 PM |
#57 |
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Again |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 04:16 PM |
#58 |
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the warrant doesn't matter-- only its existence matters.... |
mike_c |
Dec-07-08 04:58 PM |
#93 |
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HOW DO YOU KNOW? |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 04:59 PM |
#96 |
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I know because I understand how LEGAL search and seizure operates.... |
mike_c |
Dec-07-08 05:07 PM |
#108 |
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we dont know what the probably cause was |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 05:21 PM |
#114 |
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And we don't have the affidavit for the warrant because...? |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 05:31 PM |
#119 |
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Jasonc, are you an attorney? Have you ever taken a course |
JDPriestly |
Dec-07-08 07:16 PM |
#167 |
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I am not making assumptions |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 07:19 PM |
#169 |
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You said: |
skypuddle |
Dec-07-08 08:00 PM |
#178 |
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So a little old lady reports a house that has a light on a lot. |
JDPriestly |
Dec-07-08 11:47 PM |
#188 |
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Why would you back the cops, anyway? |
Ken Burch |
Dec-07-08 06:49 PM |
#161 |
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I am not on anyones side |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 07:02 PM |
#164 |
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Then upon what evidence.... |
DeSwiss |
Dec-07-08 03:36 PM |
#43 |
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Except, you see, the cops could not have gotten that search warrant unless |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 03:37 PM |
#44 |
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That is pure conjecture |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 03:42 PM |
#48 |
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Educated guesses based on a knowledge of police procedure and how search warrants work. |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 03:49 PM |
#52 |
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I am glad you are not a lawyer |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 03:56 PM |
#55 |
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The cops "educated guesses" are supposed to be acted on within specific legal channels. |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 04:27 PM |
#65 |
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Show me proof they did |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 04:28 PM |
#67 |
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Oh, cut it out. Everyone knows by now that you're asking for "proof" in bad faith. |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 04:32 PM |
#71 |
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No |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 04:32 PM |
#73 |
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Then what you would accept as proof? |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 04:43 PM |
#79 |
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can you read? |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 04:52 PM |
#85 |
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I gave you too much credit. |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 04:55 PM |
#90 |
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I have lost count |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 04:58 PM |
#92 |
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If you mean a copy of the search warrant the cops have refused to provide it. |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 05:04 PM |
#103 |
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I see you finally read some of my posts |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 05:05 PM |
#105 |
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I'd read it from the beginning. You'd already been told something to this effect. |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 05:06 PM |
#107 |
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We are not going to arrest anyone. We are not going to enter |
JDPriestly |
Dec-07-08 07:28 PM |
#172 |
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The warrant that the police obtained and the paperwork, i.e., |
JDPriestly |
Dec-07-08 04:17 PM |
#59 |
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All that writing |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 04:22 PM |
#63 |
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You obviously wouldn't accept anything as proof. |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 04:28 PM |
#66 |
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well |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 04:28 PM |
#68 |
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I notice you haven't denied that you wouldn't accept anything as proof. |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 04:31 PM |
#70 |
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LOL |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 04:32 PM |
#72 |
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It's quite logical to assume that when someone assiduously avoids answering a pertinent question |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 04:42 PM |
#77 |
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 04:50 PM |
#83 |
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You really should see something about that nervous giggle of yours. |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 04:53 PM |
#88 |
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I suppose you are going to tell me |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 04:54 PM |
#89 |
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Uh, no. Where have I said such a thing? |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 04:56 PM |
#91 |
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Just an assumption |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 04:58 PM |
#95 |
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Which is why search warrants require stronger evidence than those cops obviously had. |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 05:00 PM |
#99 |
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your double standard amuses me |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 05:01 PM |
#101 |
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Where do you see a double standard? |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 05:05 PM |
#106 |
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you allow yourself to guess away |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 05:22 PM |
#115 |
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Yes, strange as it may seem to you, the cops DO need solid evidence for |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 05:34 PM |
#120 |
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are you serious? |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 05:35 PM |
#122 |
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...for walking into the house? |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 05:37 PM |
#125 |
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you seem to be not seeing the most important part of my statement |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 05:38 PM |
#126 |
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The most important part of your statement being...? |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 05:38 PM |
#128 |
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jesus |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 05:41 PM |
#131 |
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And so your reasoning that mere possession of grow lights is evidence enough for a search warrant? |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 05:50 PM |
#135 |
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What do you think a cop would think |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 05:52 PM |
#138 |
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He might be suspicious and, if he were an honest cop, open an investigation that MIGHT garner him |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 05:59 PM |
#146 |
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I dont think you understand what a warrant is |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 06:03 PM |
#152 |
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Actually, I do understand what a warrant is. |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 06:07 PM |
#154 |
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... |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 06:10 PM |
#156 |
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Not quite sure where to jump, but why not here |
TheEuclideanOne |
Dec-08-08 05:16 AM |
#195 |
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jasonc, we do will not be charging into the officers' homes |
JDPriestly |
Dec-07-08 07:31 PM |
#173 |
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The problem is not that they showed up. They problem is that they |
JDPriestly |
Dec-07-08 07:22 PM |
#170 |
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Umm... there was no probably cause to enter that building |
DarkTirade |
Dec-07-08 04:42 PM |
#78 |
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NO, I am not being a douche |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 04:51 PM |
#84 |
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Of course you are. You're arguing in bad faith, asking for proof when you know and we know |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 04:58 PM |
#94 |
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I dont think you are reading my posts |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 04:59 PM |
#97 |
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Yes, I am. |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 05:07 PM |
#109 |
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You've gone beyond douche |
RetroLounge |
Dec-07-08 05:27 PM |
#118 |
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LOL |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 05:34 PM |
#121 |
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Are you afraid of being laughed at? |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 05:38 PM |
#127 |
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Good. |
RetroLounge |
Dec-07-08 05:40 PM |
#130 |
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nice attempt at baiting me |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 05:42 PM |
#132 |
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Awwwww... No more giggles? |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 05:51 PM |
#136 |
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nah, more like a sympathy sigh... |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 05:53 PM |
#139 |
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I see. More histrionics. |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 05:59 PM |
#148 |
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Yeah, that's what I was doing... |
RetroLounge |
Dec-07-08 07:27 PM |
#171 |
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You're playing lawyer loophole tricks before its even gotten into a courtroom. |
DarkTirade |
Dec-07-08 08:34 PM |
#180 |
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I see his site... |
wildbilln864 |
Dec-07-08 12:34 PM |
#18 |
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I pulled it up. |
TomInTib |
Dec-07-08 12:56 PM |
#22 |
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That was damn funny!!! |
20score |
Dec-07-08 03:17 PM |
#37 |
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Hold your breath and.... |
wildbilln864 |
Dec-07-08 09:14 PM |
#183 |
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The Gestopo has arrived.... |
DeSwiss |
Dec-07-08 03:46 PM |
#50 |
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Generally speaking, its hard to fight city hall because they are all on the same team. |
Captive America |
Dec-07-08 12:46 PM |
#20 |
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The probblem for the city of Odessa.... |
DeSwiss |
Dec-07-08 03:51 PM |
#53 |
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have you a copy of the warrant? |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 03:57 PM |
#56 |
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The warrant will have to be produced in discovery in the civil |
JDPriestly |
Dec-07-08 04:18 PM |
#60 |
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If it goes that far. |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 04:21 PM |
#62 |
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It probably will. |
JDPriestly |
Dec-07-08 06:59 PM |
#163 |
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probablys, maybes, conjecture, and supposition... |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 07:03 PM |
#165 |
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Oh, yes they do. When something like this gets national attention |
JDPriestly |
Dec-07-08 11:50 PM |
#189 |
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Anyone can get a copy of it tomorrow per Texas law |
FreeState |
Dec-07-08 10:35 PM |
#187 |
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Well, as I'm sure you READ in the article.... |
DeSwiss |
Dec-07-08 04:21 PM |
#61 |
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when cops raid a suspected drug house |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 04:26 PM |
#64 |
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As has been made clear, a little old lady's suspicions are not generally considered enough |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 04:30 PM |
#69 |
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LOL |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 04:33 PM |
#74 |
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More histrionics. You do realize don't you, that you're not fooling anyone? |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 04:44 PM |
#80 |
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Wow |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 04:52 PM |
#86 |
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Anyone who you post a message demanding "proof." Asking the question strongly implies |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 04:59 PM |
#98 |
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well |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 05:00 PM |
#100 |
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You asked for a copy of the paperwork. |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 05:10 PM |
#110 |
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yes I know that |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 05:24 PM |
#116 |
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"Proof of wrongdoing" on the part of the cops plainly does not exist in your universe. |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 05:36 PM |
#123 |
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yes, simply because |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 05:37 PM |
#124 |
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Sorry, but a universe where cops never do anything wrong or dishonest is not "reality." |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 05:39 PM |
#129 |
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do you have proof of that wrongdoing? |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 05:43 PM |
#133 |
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Since you are unwilling to accept anything even as evidence, much less proof |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 05:52 PM |
#137 |
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do you have problems with short term memory? |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 05:54 PM |
#140 |
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And you've been unable to come up with an example of what you would accept as "evidence" |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 05:57 PM |
#143 |
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true |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 05:59 PM |
#147 |
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You won't even accept it as EVIDENCE that they acted illegally. |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 06:01 PM |
#149 |
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You're not trying to fool anyone, you're just trying to disrupt. |
Jim Sagle |
Dec-08-08 02:19 AM |
#192 |
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The attorney was not inside the house... |
DeSwiss |
Dec-07-08 04:35 PM |
#75 |
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Well then |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 04:36 PM |
#76 |
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Why do you have such a strong emotional stake in trying to justify the cops actions? |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 04:45 PM |
#81 |
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Why do you have such a strong emotional stake in trying to vilify the cops actions? |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 04:53 PM |
#87 |
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Some odd people have a problem with their Constitutional rights being spat upon |
LostinVA |
Dec-07-08 05:02 PM |
#102 |
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prove it was done? |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 05:04 PM |
#104 |
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You've already been shown strong evidence that the cops were engaging in misconduct. |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 05:13 PM |
#112 |
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No I have not seen any proof |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 05:20 PM |
#113 |
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Like I said, "proof" or "evidence" against cops doesn't exist in your universe. |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 05:48 PM |
#134 |
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one bad case in the NYtimes |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 05:57 PM |
#144 |
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It's not a matter of proving that case. It's a matter of indicating what are the |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 06:03 PM |
#150 |
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I know what the proper procedures are |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 06:05 PM |
#153 |
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Apparently you don't if you think merely possessing certain gardening lights |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 06:08 PM |
#155 |
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Could be. Do you live in Odessa, Texas? |
JDPriestly |
Dec-07-08 07:39 PM |
#176 |
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I don't. I simply think there is strong evidence that the cops were engaging in misconduct, |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 05:11 PM |
#111 |
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LOL |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 05:24 PM |
#117 |
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You know, if you tried to actually argue reasonably, people wouldn't find your posts |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 05:54 PM |
#141 |
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I do not care one whit |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 05:59 PM |
#145 |
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The tenor of your posts indicate that you do. |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 06:03 PM |
#151 |
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Let us assume for a moment... |
skypuddle |
Dec-07-08 06:18 PM |
#157 |
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no |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 06:26 PM |
#158 |
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OK, then on to part 2... |
skypuddle |
Dec-07-08 06:36 PM |
#159 |
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already done |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 06:38 PM |
#160 |
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"to get a warrant the police only need a reasonable suspicion." |
skypuddle |
Dec-07-08 07:13 PM |
#166 |
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conveniently for your purposes |
jasonc |
Dec-07-08 07:16 PM |
#168 |
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Well, I don't know if you're anrgy because I made you look foolish... |
skypuddle |
Dec-07-08 07:37 PM |
#175 |
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It has been one hour since I posted my previous reply to this post. |
skypuddle |
Dec-07-08 08:41 PM |
#181 |
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It has been five plus hours since I responded to your last post. |
skypuddle |
Dec-08-08 12:57 AM |
#190 |
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If I remember correctly, |
JimDandy |
Dec-08-08 02:25 PM |
#196 |
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If the little old lady made a flase accusation or an accusation |
JDPriestly |
Dec-07-08 07:34 PM |
#174 |
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I have a greenhouse, and I start plants in the winter in my garage. |
AtheistCrusader |
Dec-08-08 01:00 AM |
#191 |
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Years ago this is what happened to some friends of mine. |
TexasProgresive |
Dec-07-08 01:12 PM |
#24 |
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here they cut off your water so you can't flush it. nt |
wildbilln864 |
Dec-07-08 01:19 PM |
#25 |
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In response to past terror attacks.... |
DeSwiss |
Dec-07-08 02:38 PM |
#33 |
| -
more background on this topic - |
vmaus |
Dec-07-08 01:47 PM |
#28 |
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Thanks bunches!!!! |
DeSwiss |
Dec-07-08 02:44 PM |
#34 |
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It's way past time to legalize marijuana |
quidam56 |
Dec-07-08 02:08 PM |
#29 |
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The below research links are to articles.... |
DeSwiss |
Dec-07-08 02:51 PM |
#35 |
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Wow. Great story. Too bad the TV news segment is so badly put together. |
Pamela Troy |
Dec-07-08 03:10 PM |
#36 |
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The show's website has been suspended. |
rucky |
Dec-07-08 03:18 PM |
#38 |
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Don't worry, it's down due to high traffic. {nt} |
Aya Reiko |
Dec-07-08 07:56 PM |
#177 |
| -
K & R |
Christa |
Dec-07-08 03:55 PM |
#54 |
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Nice now to see the crooked cops on youtube |
newmac |
Dec-07-08 06:52 PM |
#162 |
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7 years? |
Rosetteismyname |
Dec-07-08 08:12 PM |
# |
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Actually she passed the polygraph |
sasquatch |
Dec-07-08 09:39 PM |
#185 |
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7 years? |
Rosetteismyname |
Dec-07-08 08:12 PM |
#179 |
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Welcome to DU! nt |
wildbilln864 |
Dec-07-08 09:52 PM |
#186 |
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I propose a new weekday tv show -- KopBusters! eom |
wroberts189 |
Dec-07-08 08:45 PM |
#182 |
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Gotta admire this Texas version of Serpico. I hope someone takes care of his back |
gbrooks |
Dec-08-08 02:40 AM |
#194 |
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So what does this mean for previous cultivation busts involving this department? |
Incitatus |
Dec-08-08 02:31 PM |
#197 |
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