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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 01:09 PM
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8. K&R
BEWARE; USA & ALLIES STOKING SHIA-SUNNI DIVIDE
K Gajendra Singh

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Evolution of Islam into Shia and other forms:

The number of ghulat groups, increased dramatically especially in Kufa during as-Sadiq's lifetime. It is therefore useful to consider the origin of the ghulat. When the Arabs arrived in the Fertile Crescent, they encountered ancient civilisations with sophisticated religious systems. Iraq was already the centre of intense religious ferment with the ancient Babylonian religious systems, Zoroastrianism, Mazdaism, Manichaeism, Judaism and various forms of Christianity contributing to a kaleidoscope of religious view points, debates and speculation. Islam by comparison was as yet simple and undeveloped. And with the Prophet already dead, there was no one to whom the Muslims could turn for an authoritative ruling on sophisticated religious speculations being posed by the ancient civilisations. There arose a ferment of discussion around some of the concepts introduced by these older religions and philosophical systems.

In the initial years the Arabs lived in their military camp cities and avoided intermingling with the native populations and their disturbing religious speculations but as more of the native populations embraced Islam, such discussions increased. In this spiritual and religious ferment ideas were injected into the Muslim community and intensively discussed by people interested in such matters which could be considered by the majority of Muslims heterodox concepts and called ghulat or extremists.

Among the ideas injected were such concepts as tanasukh (transmigration of souls), ghayba (occultation), raj'a (return), hulul (descent of the Spirit of God into man), imama (Imamate, divinely-inspired leadership and guidance), tashbih (anthropomorphism with respect to God), tafwid (delegation of God's powers to other than God), and bada (alteration in God's will). But the ghulat needed a priest- god figure onto which to project their ideas of hulul, ghayba , etc., a role admirably suited to the persona of' Ali.

While the ghulat adopted Ali and his family as the embodiment of their religious speculation the Shias of' Ali always looked on the ghulat with a certain amount of suspicion. However, the martyrdom of Hussein and the pathos of this event gave the family of Ali a cultic significance. It bestowed on Shias, earlier primarily a political party, a thrust into a religious orientation directing it firmly towards the ghulat, and giving the ghulat milieu a hero-martyr and a priestly family with which they could associate much of their speculations.

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  -US Backed "Death Squads" In Iraq ***Warning Very Disturbing mrdemocrat78  Mar-30-07 11:35 AM   #0 
  - kick for later eom  ellenfl   Mar-30-07 12:44 PM   #1 
  - embarrassed to ask  mrdemocrat78   Mar-30-07 12:51 PM   #4 
     - "Kick"ing a thread is when someone adds a post to it  bobbie   Mar-30-07 12:55 PM   #6 
        - oh, ok i get it. thanks  mrdemocrat78   Mar-30-07 01:00 PM   #7 
           - also, by posting something, you can find it again  ellenfl   Mar-30-07 09:31 PM   #12 
              - Ohh, good idea. Thanks ellenfl.  bobbie   Mar-31-07 12:39 AM   #13 
  - Might be the same I posted about back in Nov. but my link is dead now.  Roland99   Mar-30-07 12:47 PM   #2 
  - sorry for reposting  mrdemocrat78   Mar-30-07 12:52 PM   #5 
     - Oh, I'm glad you did! That video isn't on Google Video anymore  Roland99   Mar-30-07 01:18 PM   #9 
  - Has anyone shown bush this type of chaos that HE has created?  lyonn   Mar-30-07 12:47 PM   #3 
  - thanks a lot  mrdemocrat78   Mar-30-07 02:44 PM   #10 
  - He used to blow up frogs - he likes this sort of thing  rman   Mar-31-07 06:33 AM   #14 
  - K&R  Jcrowley   Mar-30-07 01:09 PM   #8 
  - The Sunnis blame America not the Shia  kaal   Mar-30-07 02:54 PM   #11 
  - Uh, chuckles...how come this bogus video provides ZERO evidence of "U.S. backing" of death squads?  brentspeak   Apr-01-07 08:12 AM   #15 
     - here, not easy when nobody wants to cover it  CGowen   Apr-01-07 08:27 AM   #16 
        - In other words, the other journals recognize a crackpot and con-artist when they see one  brentspeak   Apr-01-07 10:38 AM   #17 
 

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