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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-03-08 12:27 PM
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36. First words out of Cenk's mouh and he nails it:: Two different issues.
(By the way, it wasn't necessary for the CNN guy to ID Beaver Cleaver there as a 'conservative' radio talk show host -- that was painfully obvious. And Beaver called Cenk "Sink".)

And, Barack, Clark DIDN'T discount McCain's service or sacrifice -- did you LISTEN to him, or just get the soundbites?

Speaking of soundbites, the clip they ran at the beginning of the segment was edited. It was Bob Schieffer who used the term getting shot down over Viet Nam, and Clark was just saying that (getting shot down over VN) didn't necessarily qualify a person to be President.

And again, Cenk made note that McCain's military history and his service on the Committee in DC are TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES. They problem is everyone wants to wrap these separate issues into one package.

Nobody is going to listen to Cenk's excellent comments because this is an emotional issue (which it shouldn't be!). I'm so sorry Clark said it that way, because nobody will ever hear the real meaning and truth behind it.

And I'm pissed at Obama for his comments regarding this (hadn't seen that clip before). He could have handled it better.

Fact is, and we've learned, we have to not address the fact that McCain's POW experience can't become a topic of debate - we've seen what happens. Rightly or wrongly, it can hurt us. And that pisses me off.
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  -TYT: Cenk Goes On CNN Headline News To Defend Gen. Clark! ihavenobias  Jul-03-08 09:27 AM   #0 
  - "It's appeasement, Chris!"  mwb970   Jul-03-08 09:32 AM   #1 
  - Also, who is the interviewer?  mwb970   Jul-03-08 09:37 AM   #2 
  - Ben Ferguson, Conservative Radio host, based on what I heard  1Hippiechick   Jul-03-08 10:44 AM   #15 
  - Way to go, Cenk! K&R n/t  ExPatLeftist   Jul-03-08 09:39 AM   #3 
  - I like it so much I tried to red it twice;)  autorank   Jul-03-08 09:41 AM   #4 
  - K & R!!! Cenk needs his own TV show!  CherylK   Jul-03-08 09:49 AM   #5 
  - Way to go Cenk!!! He really does need his own show. K/R.  Window   Jul-03-08 12:43 PM   #43 
  - Wes Clark just sitting around in AC? Wasn't Clark in Vietnam too?!!  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-03-08 09:58 AM   #6 
  - Cenk was talked over when he tried to call out the conservative pundit on that point  ihavenobias   Jul-03-08 10:01 AM   #8 
  - The GOP talking heads clearly use talking over their opponents as a technique  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-03-08 10:04 AM   #10 
  - Had posted before I read your response, and I agree 1000% about drowning out others - no longer a  1Hippiechick   Jul-03-08 10:50 AM   #19 
  - And I heard he was injured while trying to save the lives of other soldiers. nt  gateley   Jul-03-08 12:29 PM   #37 
  - Clark came home in a stretcher - was shot 4 times. Who knew?  The Wielding Truth   Jul-03-08 08:44 PM   #73 
  - Um, yeah, shot 4 times and managed to still save those in his command- WHILE BLEEDING.  faithfulcitizen   Jul-03-08 02:16 PM   #54 
     - while complaining about Clark dissing McCain's service (which Clark didn't)! ARGH! nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-03-08 04:56 PM   #65 
  - Cenk sets the record straight, they are crazy. K/R nt  flashl   Jul-03-08 09:58 AM   #7 
  - Yeah, Cenk going on the MSM. our voice!  robinlynne   Jul-03-08 10:01 AM   #9 
  - K&R!  matthewf   Jul-03-08 10:06 AM   #11 
  - Perfect response.  johnlal   Jul-03-08 10:08 AM   #12 
  - Cenk is my hero. n/t  IndependentDem   Jul-03-08 10:29 AM   #13 
  - I forgot to mention, TYT is NOT the "new morning show on Air America". They'll be on XM 7/14  ihavenobias   Jul-03-08 10:43 AM   #14 
     - I believe that the XM channel is called "Air America". It includes shows from  rhett o rick   Jul-03-08 11:03 AM   #21 
     - Actually, it's called America Left...  ihavenobias   Jul-03-08 11:15 AM   #22 
        - Thank you very much for the updated information. I very much appreciate your posts. nm  rhett o rick   Jul-03-08 01:26 PM   #46 
     - yeah i heard about that on the show the other day...  IndependentDem   Jul-03-08 12:03 PM   #27 
        - There are some other things in the works  ihavenobias   Jul-03-08 12:04 PM   #29 
           - do you work for them?..  IndependentDem   Jul-03-08 12:05 PM   #30 
              - Do me a favor, email Cenk and tell him to send me a check every two weeks!  ihavenobias   Jul-03-08 12:11 PM   #31 
                 - awesome... i watch the show every day...  IndependentDem   Jul-03-08 12:15 PM   #32 
                    - When I get a job and get some money rolling in,  gateley   Jul-03-08 12:34 PM   #40 
                       - AWESOME!!  IndependentDem   Jul-03-08 02:25 PM   #55 
  - The RW hack almost fell over his own talking points there at the end  underpants   Jul-03-08 10:44 AM   #16 
  - Pubs sniping small shit...nit picking really...how come they not talking OVERPOPULATION?  opihimoimoi   Jul-03-08 10:47 AM   #17 
  - "It's not about experience, it's about judgment!" & "dog-and-pony-show in Iraq" - favorite lines.,  1Hippiechick   Jul-03-08 10:47 AM   #18 
  - Cenk is absolutely right  Jack Rabbit   Jul-03-08 10:58 AM   #20 
  - Amen n/t  ihavenobias   Jul-03-08 11:35 AM   #23 
  - Good writing, there!  90-percent   Jul-03-08 05:01 PM   #66 
  - Good!  Clark2008   Jul-03-08 11:51 AM   #24 
  - It would requires a spine...  ImForGore   Jul-03-08 12:03 PM   #28 
  - Working together ? for a better America . . . .  kmac3   Jul-03-08 04:05 PM   #63 
  - I Really FInd it Interesting as to How the Host Framed the Debate  fascisthunter   Jul-03-08 11:52 AM   #25 
  - Notice how they did not show Scheifer asking the question using the words "shot down in a plane"?  OMomma   Jul-03-08 12:15 PM   #33 
  - EXACTLY... the Statement was Taken out of Context as well  fascisthunter   Jul-03-08 12:18 PM   #34 
  - "Good points, Chris. I knew there would be."  rebel with a cause   Jul-03-08 04:01 PM   #61 
  - I have a new-found appreciation for TYT  JNelson6563   Jul-03-08 11:53 AM   #26 
  - Good to see this!  DeeDeeNY   Jul-03-08 12:18 PM   #35 
  - First words out of Cenk's mouh and he nails it:: Two different issues.  gateley   Jul-03-08 12:27 PM   #36 
  - Cenk is my guy from now on. I think he is consistantly on point. K&R  Juan_de_la_Dem   Jul-03-08 12:33 PM   #38 
  - Cenk set em' straight. His final analysis: "You were wrong, we were right." eom  OMomma   Jul-03-08 12:34 PM   #39 
  - that was awesome!  FLDem5   Jul-03-08 12:38 PM   #41 
  - Kept thinking : "Out of which mom's basement did they drag out THIS RW keyboard warrior?"  ForeignSpectator   Jul-03-08 12:39 PM   #42 
  - Folks, please consider joining The Turks, they could use the money.  navarth   Jul-03-08 01:07 PM   #44 
  - It's only $10 a month for basic membership and...  ihavenobias   Jul-03-08 01:37 PM   #47 
  - Clark took four bullets in Vietnam.  CJCRANE   Jul-03-08 01:17 PM   #45 
  - Using conservative  The Wizard   Jul-03-08 04:15 PM   #64 
  - Cenk is an excellent debater and pounds these creeps where it hurts  ooglymoogly   Jul-03-08 01:42 PM   #48 
  - Cenk will be the next Rachel Maddow.  lazyriver   Jul-03-08 01:46 PM   #49 
  - K&R  OhioChick   Jul-03-08 02:05 PM   #50 
  - Silly-ass word parsing!  Plucketeer   Jul-03-08 02:05 PM   #51 
  - "You were wrong and we were right. You were wrong and we were right..." Favorite close ever!!  mirrera   Jul-03-08 02:07 PM   #52 
  - Did that piss ant just say, Clark sat around in his air conditioned office in NATO?? Uh huh,  faithfulcitizen   Jul-03-08 02:13 PM   #53 
  - sadly no one knows all of this...  IndependentDem   Jul-03-08 03:16 PM   #57 
  - This is a rush limbaugh wanna be..  rebel with a cause   Jul-03-08 04:04 PM   #62 
  - POS that he is...  ImForGore   Jul-04-08 01:36 AM   #79 
  - you forgot to mention McCain's medals were undeserved  provis99   Jul-03-08 10:09 PM   #74 
  - Thanks for posting that n/t  ihavenobias   Jul-05-08 02:30 PM   #82 
  - THAT'S HOW IT'S DONE!  theFrankFactor   Jul-03-08 03:09 PM   #56 
  - Clark's Military Record Highlights  theFrankFactor   Jul-03-08 03:32 PM   #58 
     - General Wesley Clark: U.S. Military Individual and Unit Decorations  theFrankFactor   Jul-03-08 03:34 PM   #59 
  - K & R  kmac3   Jul-03-08 03:45 PM   #60 
  - Clark is  90-percent   Jul-03-08 05:08 PM   #67 
  - REPEAT AFTER ME: EXPERIENCE WITHOUT JUDGMENT IS NO VIRTUE!  garthranzz   Jul-03-08 05:11 PM   #68 
  - Don't forget their "Monday Morning Quarterback" meme. We'll be hearing more of that.  navarth   Jul-03-08 05:39 PM   #70 
     - Oh, and by the way: YEAH CENK! YOU GO BOY!!  navarth   Jul-03-08 05:40 PM   #71 
  - Didn't McCain himself say his POW/war experience did not quality him?  NewJeffCT   Jul-03-08 05:37 PM   #69 
  - Words. His "who is John McCain" video begins with a b/w shot of him as a POW....  1Hippiechick   Jul-03-08 06:28 PM   #72 
  - You were wrong...and we were right! K&R  rndmprsn   Jul-03-08 10:27 PM   #75 
  - Good job Cenk  zeos3   Jul-03-08 10:50 PM   #76 
  - Ever hear wny of them ever defend Obama-ever. But look at the 100yrs war comment  bjobotts   Jul-04-08 01:07 AM   #77 
  - OK, two questions on this...  ImForGore   Jul-04-08 01:33 AM   #78 
  - Fuck CNN "Headline News".  quantessd   Jul-04-08 02:45 AM   #80 
  - Nutshell analysis:  DFW   Jul-04-08 07:11 AM   #81 
  - "You were wrong. We were right."  IMModerate   Jul-07-08 12:00 PM   #83 
  - McCain's defense of himself was bizarre......  Jade Fox   Jul-07-08 12:14 PM   #84 
  - SO, LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT...  onetwo   Jul-07-08 05:59 PM   #85 
 

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