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rms013 Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:59 AM
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47. Say what?
A blacksmith also piles his coals to the center of the forge to get maximum heat. If your theory is correct please explain how these structures could collapse within their own footprint and buckle the total center core beams all the way to the substructure. Would it not have been more feasible for the suspended floors to pancake and the center structure above the crash site to go leaving the un heated, un softened, un melted multiple stories of steel beams in place?. Explain the molten steel found in the rubble. Explain the shearing of the columns at distinct angles? Explain the lack of analysis of the crime scene and the expedience with which all debris were removed and shipped for recycling overseas?

If there is not mystery than why didn't the 9/11 commission address any real issues regarding the collapse of the towers, the economic incentive of the new owner, the collapse of the other building which was not hit by a plane (also into it's own footprint).

If the Bush folks are so stupid why are they successful in destroying the middle class, bankrupting the economy and filling the pockets of there friends and allies? If they are so stupid how did the usurp and ultimately undermine the basic tenants of the U.S. constitution? And if government is too disorganized to form a conspiracy to cover it up than how have they been successfully covering up what ever truths there are which are unanswered about 9/11(see above statement on 9/11 commission report)? Just as an example: How come we have not been allowed to see the video of the "plane" hitting the Pentagon?

It isn't that I believe in conspiracy theories, it is just that I don't discount the possibilities. And in not discounting the possibilities and being open in looking for the facts, I believe you have rocket science.
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  -Jesse Ventura on the Howard Stern Show:Gov.Carried Out 9/11 Pharaoh  May-21-08 07:35 PM   #0 
  - just when you think he can't be crazier...  enki23   May-21-08 07:41 PM   #1 
  - Not that crazy!  Pharaoh   May-21-08 07:43 PM   #2 
  - Great stuff! Thanks for posting this.  wildbilln864   May-21-08 07:59 PM   #4 
  - I believe him. I think we don't want to believe our gov. is capable of doing something like that  Heather MC   May-21-08 08:34 PM   #8 
  - I believe him too. ...n/t  Just-plain-Kathy   May-21-08 09:07 PM   #12 
  - The facts are there. What is missing is the will to believe the facts.  King Coal   May-22-08 01:38 AM   #53 
  - Ventura is absolutely on the money....No doubt about it, or should we believe  GreenTea   May-22-08 01:20 AM   #51 
  - Ventura only looks crazy because he is one of the few people who has a clue  Beam Me Up   May-22-08 04:31 AM   #66 
  - He'll be taking calls tonight on the Larry King show on CNN.  TacticalPeek   May-21-08 07:53 PM   #3 
  - Thanks for the heads up.  wildbilln864   May-21-08 08:00 PM   #5 
  - I agree with Ventura on 911 100%! Incidents of this magnitude are not mistakes they are deliberate.  raystorm7   May-21-08 08:03 PM   #6 
  - He does make some valid points  Lorien   May-21-08 08:30 PM   #7 
  - Howard Stern does not believe in LIHOP?  Pastiche423   May-21-08 08:49 PM   #9 
  - Ventura  pjt7   May-21-08 08:56 PM   #11 
  - Oh, I agree w/Ventura  Pastiche423   May-21-08 09:19 PM   #16 
  - that kind of surprises me too. n/t  orleans   May-22-08 12:40 AM   #45 
  - stern is a loser and a scumbag  pedo   May-21-08 08:54 PM   #10 
  - Thanks for posting this! n/t  whereismyparty   May-21-08 09:14 PM   #13 
  - Good for Jesse  rosesaylavee   May-21-08 09:16 PM   #14 
  - I agree, he makes some good points.  New Dawn   May-21-08 09:19 PM   #15 
  - It isn't what you don't know that gets you into trouble it's what you know that isn't so.  budedis   May-21-08 09:22 PM   #17 
  - Can I recommend you  DiktatrW   May-21-08 09:58 PM   #23 
  - Sure  budedis   May-21-08 10:18 PM   #26 
  - But the way the towers collapsed indicates that there was another source of energy.  freedom fighter jh   May-21-08 10:13 PM   #25 
  - The energy was not just the heat from the fire ignited by 90,000 L of fuel  budedis   May-21-08 10:30 PM   #28 
  - You know nothing  Gonnuts   May-22-08 12:06 AM   #38 
  - Say what?  rms013   May-22-08 12:59 AM   #47 
  - Welcome to DU, rms013!  Nostradammit   May-22-08 03:04 AM   #63 
  - Wood burns hotter than jet fuel? For a less than 20 posts here at DU you have just as much  sce56   May-22-08 02:01 AM   #56 
  - I truly thought Rosie was off her nut when she started talking like this  KSinTX   May-21-08 09:26 PM   #18 
  - Jesse is an interesting character. nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   May-21-08 09:27 PM   #19 
  - KSinTX  pjt7   May-21-08 09:52 PM   #21 
     - think you meant to reply above  JoeIsOneOfUs   May-21-08 09:54 PM   #22 
  - Most people don't like hearing this  BayjanDem   May-21-08 09:49 PM   #20 
  - That's exactly right.  Kaleko   May-21-08 10:29 PM   #27 
  - One person's delusion is not everybody's truth. Some people are just crazy as batshit!  L. Coyote   May-22-08 02:35 AM   #59 
  - Oh, and welcome to DU  Kaleko   May-21-08 10:31 PM   #29 
  - What belief system?  Gonnuts   May-22-08 12:12 AM   #41 
     - Great example of why we cant beliee a word you say:  L. Coyote   May-22-08 02:38 AM   #60 
  - Thanks Jesse!  shockra   May-21-08 10:07 PM   #24 
  - Great Jesse, I want his recent book don't start revolution without me  JimHank   May-21-08 10:40 PM   #30 
  - Interesting theory...  AntiFascist   May-22-08 01:54 AM   #54 
  - The way some people talk  JohnyCanuck   May-21-08 11:00 PM   #31 
  - If the government could pull of 9/11, then they could plant WMDs in Iraq. What bullshit.  GarbagemanLB   May-21-08 11:04 PM   #32 
  - Popular Mechanics?  Gonnuts   May-21-08 11:51 PM   #36 
  - If I remember correctly, the guy that did the hit piece  bbgrunt   May-22-08 12:20 AM   #42 
  - googling popular mechanics 911 provides  bbgrunt   May-22-08 01:17 AM   #50 
  - But didnt they try?  AgentCarrie   May-22-08 01:16 AM   #48 
  - I think they TRIED to plant WMDs in Iraq. They were effectively stopped.  Frank Cannon   May-22-08 01:22 AM   #52 
  - All WMDs have fingerprints  Pastiche423   May-22-08 03:39 AM   #65 
  - I don't agree with everything he has to say...  jmondine   May-21-08 11:27 PM   #33 
  - Reams of evidence debunking "official version" of 9/11  Gonnuts   May-21-08 11:39 PM   #34 
  - The USS Maine, The Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Tonkin, plans to fake an attack from cuba...  ORDagnabbit   May-21-08 11:41 PM   #35 
  - DON'T BELIEVE VENTURA !!!!!  JMDEM   May-21-08 11:52 PM   #37 
  - The only way to not know it was controlled demolitions is to not want to know  bjobotts   May-22-08 12:09 AM   #39 
  - Jesse is nobody's fool. Thanks for posting!  bbgrunt   May-22-08 12:10 AM   #40 
  - Kick  frog92969   May-22-08 12:25 AM   #43 
  - What an idiot! Steel melts. Anyone ever fire a kiln? Metals have low melting temperatures.  L. Coyote   May-22-08 12:36 AM   #44 
  - And exactly how many other skyscrapers have collapsed in this manner?  JMDEM   May-22-08 01:16 AM   #49 
     - Flawed logic. So, nothing ever happens for the first time?  L. Coyote   May-22-08 02:29 AM   #58 
        - You mean for the first time three times in one day?  frog92969   May-22-08 02:49 AM   #62 
  - k&r n/t  orleans   May-22-08 12:46 AM   #46 
  - Nut. nt  onehandle   May-22-08 01:56 AM   #55 
  - Oh, and it begins! More and more people of all walks will begin their personal "examination" about  Raster   May-22-08 02:26 AM   #57 
  - Hardly. There are enough nutjobs already.  L. Coyote   May-22-08 02:39 AM   #61 
     - Can you spell ad hominem?  Beam Me Up   May-22-08 04:39 AM   #67 
  - voted for him ... will do so again k/r n/t  LaStrega   May-22-08 03:28 AM   #64 
  - Certifiable loon.  Aya Reiko   May-22-08 04:47 AM   #68 
  - Locking.  unhappycamper   May-22-08 05:12 AM   #69 

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