WiseButAngrySara
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Sat Apr-22-06 06:28 PM
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| -Howard Dean on Diebold: "These machines are a problem" |
kpete |
Apr-22-06 05:36 AM |
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Tough crowd |
paineinthearse |
Apr-22-06 06:33 AM |
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I understand that during the 2004 election, Republican technicians came |
itzamirakul |
Apr-22-06 06:36 AM |
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Google for "brown shirts" -- it's a Nazi thing. nt |
Hekate |
Apr-23-06 12:37 AM |
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"I'm not an expert on these machines..." - That's the problem - no one is |
Junkdrawer |
Apr-22-06 06:49 AM |
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What do you mean "a small amount of proof"???? |
Stevepol |
Apr-22-06 06:09 PM |
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Sorry Steve. I speak from frustration. To wit: |
Junkdrawer |
Apr-22-06 09:04 PM |
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Thank you! |
Deb |
Apr-22-06 07:00 AM |
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Go Howard. nt. |
Mr_Jefferson_24 |
Apr-22-06 07:59 AM |
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He's taking notice! Finally |
BeFree |
Apr-22-06 08:41 AM |
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Dean should convene a NATIONAL SUMMIT of ALL Dems on election boards |
blm |
Apr-22-06 09:09 AM |
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Grand Idea, blm |
BeFree |
Apr-22-06 09:15 AM |
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I agree.. Be a good idea to include Democratic Governors, and |
converted_democrat |
Apr-22-06 09:23 AM |
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I LOVE Dean - but I'm not sure opti-scans are so benign. n/t |
suziedemocrat |
Apr-22-06 08:50 AM |
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But they do require a paper ballot and that can be recounted by humans |
Toots |
Apr-22-06 09:03 AM |
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Elections should NOT be based on "trust" |
Raksha |
Apr-22-06 11:40 AM |
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optical scan is a great step for now |
Cos |
Apr-22-06 07:07 PM |
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He says a lot more than "These machines are a problem." Maybe that's |
Peace Patriot |
Apr-22-06 09:07 AM |
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I say above - Dean needs a NATIONAL SUMMIT of ALL Dems on election boards |
blm |
Apr-22-06 09:15 AM |
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NATIONAL SUMMIT of ALL Dems on election boards - very good idea. |
glitch |
Apr-22-06 10:01 AM |
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Yeah, I agree, BLM--and you say it more succinctly than I do. How |
Peace Patriot |
Apr-22-06 10:45 AM |
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You make a VERY good point, Peace Patriot! |
Raksha |
Apr-22-06 12:32 PM |
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Brazille and MacAuliffe are never going to admit that THEY screwed up by |
blm |
Apr-22-06 02:07 PM |
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when the heck will they pitch Brazille out? |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Apr-23-06 12:44 PM |
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One of us has to move... |
BeFree |
Apr-22-06 09:26 AM |
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Dean knows but does not have full control of the Dem Party on this. |
mod mom |
Apr-22-06 10:56 AM |
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Dean is probably meeting the same resistance in the Dem party circle that |
blm |
Apr-22-06 02:09 PM |
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BeFree, while I sympathize with your anger, and you are of course |
Peace Patriot |
Apr-22-06 11:26 AM |
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Did you read my post? |
BeFree |
Apr-23-06 06:36 AM |
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Excellent point-by-point analysis, Peace Patriot! Bravo! ....n/t |
WiseButAngrySara |
Apr-22-06 06:26 PM |
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You raise a very good question, and I think I may have an answer. |
Raksha |
Apr-22-06 07:34 PM |
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Disturbing. Why aren't the Dems screaming about the "proprietary code?" |
flpoljunkie |
Apr-22-06 09:21 AM |
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this is the obvious meme -- PROPRIETARY? eksqueeze me??!! |
nashville_brook |
Apr-22-06 12:51 PM |
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A few reasons ... |
RoyGBiv |
Apr-22-06 09:08 PM |
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Kick and Rec |
Patsy Stone |
Apr-22-06 10:39 AM |
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when you "z"-out a cash register, you also count the money |
nashville_brook |
Apr-22-06 10:59 AM |
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Exactly. The Democratic leaders should be demanding a 100% recount |
Peace Patriot |
Apr-22-06 11:41 AM |
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i heard jimmy carter say that his election-watch group won't observe |
nashville_brook |
Apr-22-06 11:52 AM |
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Now THAT's a nice analogy! |
Cos |
Apr-22-06 07:13 PM |
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great analogy, will have to borrow this |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Apr-23-06 12:47 PM |
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EXCELLENT and SIMPLE. Start a thread with this theme. |
blm |
Apr-23-06 04:55 PM |
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Demand a paper balloted machine or get them out!! |
Imagevision |
Apr-22-06 11:30 AM |
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Howard fkin rocks |
Ksec |
Apr-22-06 11:54 AM |
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I love Dean and have hope for the Democrats under him |
lovuian |
Apr-22-06 11:57 AM |
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Here's a program for Dean and the Democratic Party leaders: |
Peace Patriot |
Apr-22-06 12:04 PM |
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SOME RESOURCES FOR AMERICAN REVOLUTION II: |
Peace Patriot |
Apr-22-06 12:22 PM |
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I was going to bookmark this thread for your above two posts, and then I |
WiseButAngrySara |
Apr-22-06 06:48 PM |
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Right after the 2004 election |
DFW |
Apr-22-06 01:16 PM |
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k(pete) &R n/t |
Wilms |
Apr-22-06 03:17 PM |
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Right, I totally agree. So is the whole damn e-voting fraud factory. |
autorank |
Apr-22-06 05:33 PM |
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Howard Dean just got some money from me, if he keeps hitting this issue |
Stevepol |
Apr-22-06 06:00 PM |
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knr kpete! ....n/t |
WiseButAngrySara |
Apr-22-06 06:28 PM |
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He's been saying this for years |
Cos |
Apr-22-06 06:57 PM |
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Send Dean a message! |
annabanana |
Apr-22-06 08:35 PM |
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thank god thank god thank god thank god thank god..... |
Hekate |
Apr-23-06 12:35 AM |
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but he doesn't get it about optical scans |
garybeck |
Apr-23-06 12:43 AM |
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Paper ballots. Videotaped counting.... |
BlooInBloo |
Apr-23-06 12:46 AM |
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"This is not some Internet conspiracy; this is a serious problem " |
nolabels |
Apr-23-06 01:48 AM |
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"These machines are not reliable and they shouldn't be used. " |
slay |
Apr-23-06 02:47 AM |
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That is the scary part |
DFW |
Apr-23-06 05:41 AM |
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