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Thu Apr-20-06 02:11 PM
Response to Reply #82 |
| 91. This is an interesting Rape stat from the FBI |
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In the FBI’s Behavioral Science Unit’s study of False Allegations conducted in 1983 of 556 rape investigations, a total of 220 (40%) of these reported rapes turned out to be false. Over one fourth of these 556 turned out to be hoaxes. http://www.anandaanswers.com/pages/naaStats.html I think that is pretty important to consider when you are talking about rape. Also this is even more interesting Citing a recent USA Today article, discussing the miracle of DNA and FBI studies of sexual assault suspects, DNA testing exonerated about 30 percent to 35 percent of the more than 4,000 sexual assault suspects on whom the FBI had conducted DNA testing over the past three years. http://www.anandaanswers.com/pages/naaStats.html Perhaps the DA should have let the Duke Lacross Team submit to Lie Detector test, because YES the whole team offered to undergo Lie dectector test when the complaint first emerged |
| -Is questioning whether a rape happened insensitive to rape victims? |
bryant69 |
Apr-20-06 09:28 AM |
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I'm sorry but "the spin" has made me go numb ... |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-20-06 09:35 AM |
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Keeping things neutral |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Apr-20-06 09:35 AM |
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It is rare for rape to be taken seriously by cops. |
ThomCat |
Apr-20-06 11:56 AM |
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Actually, that depends on where you are and who your chief |
Clark2008 |
Apr-20-06 06:10 PM |
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The correct response to offensive |
cali |
Apr-20-06 09:39 AM |
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Everyone wants rights but... |
VelmaD |
Apr-20-06 09:43 AM |
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THANK YOU!!! You spoke for me. |
FormerRepublican |
Apr-20-06 09:45 AM |
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You're welcome |
VelmaD |
Apr-20-06 09:49 AM |
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you give liberals too much credit. |
cali |
Apr-20-06 09:50 AM |
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There's no responsibility to not be an asshole |
bryant69 |
Apr-20-06 09:53 AM |
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Then why is it illegal to yell "fire!" in a crowded theatre? |
FormerRepublican |
Apr-20-06 09:56 AM |
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sure there are limits, but hurt feelings is not the same thing |
onenote |
Apr-20-06 10:01 AM |
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When it involves rape victims, the harm can be far greater than how... |
FormerRepublican |
Apr-20-06 10:05 AM |
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keep digging that hole. |
cali |
Apr-20-06 10:27 AM |
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Yes, I agree that someone should be prevented from yelling... |
FormerRepublican |
Apr-20-06 10:38 AM |
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Non-responsive. |
cali |
Apr-20-06 11:00 AM |
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Do any of us have the power to limit your free speech? |
bryant69 |
Apr-20-06 11:06 AM |
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What have I posted that's been insensitive re this discussion |
cali |
Apr-20-06 11:16 AM |
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Sexism is against DU rules. |
FormerRepublican |
Apr-20-06 11:21 AM |
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I didn't say I wasn't offended. |
cali |
Apr-20-06 11:29 AM |
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You have your opinion, I have mine. I don't like people injured.... |
FormerRepublican |
Apr-20-06 11:37 AM |
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Hmmmmm |
bryant69 |
Apr-20-06 11:31 AM |
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Deleted message |
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Apr-20-06 11:36 AM |
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That doesn't sound very good |
bryant69 |
Apr-20-06 11:38 AM |
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Did she verbally attack the other poster? |
timber84 |
Apr-20-06 11:43 AM |
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Given some of the posts I've read, she SHOULD have verbally... |
FormerRepublican |
Apr-20-06 11:45 AM |
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Was she being attacked by them? |
timber84 |
Apr-20-06 11:48 AM |
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For the love of God (or whoever or nobody) would you two STOP! |
Clark2008 |
Apr-20-06 06:38 PM |
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Hurt feelings or psychological damage |
cali |
Apr-20-06 10:13 AM |
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And yet telling your kid every day that they're worthless and don't.... |
FormerRepublican |
Apr-20-06 10:17 AM |
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That has nothing to do with |
cali |
Apr-20-06 10:22 AM |
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Which is exactly what I'm doing, by pointing out that "free speech" can't |
FormerRepublican |
Apr-20-06 10:39 AM |
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cali, you have my proxy on this issue. |
Neil Lisst |
Apr-20-06 03:14 PM |
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We have to respectfully disagree... |
VelmaD |
Apr-20-06 09:58 AM |
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True. But you reap what you sow. |
philosophie_en_rose |
Apr-20-06 10:50 AM |
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It's just not your job |
Warpy |
Apr-20-06 09:40 AM |
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It depends on how you do it... |
VelmaD |
Apr-20-06 09:45 AM |
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I have not seen one single post here that said the majority of |
timber84 |
Apr-20-06 09:48 AM |
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I'm not going back and re-reading... |
VelmaD |
Apr-20-06 09:53 AM |
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I think I've kept up with alot of the postings here about the |
timber84 |
Apr-20-06 09:57 AM |
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I can show you a thread where rape victims are accused of... |
FormerRepublican |
Apr-20-06 09:53 AM |
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not the same thing as a post suggesting that most rape claims are false |
onenote |
Apr-20-06 10:14 AM |
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How about a claim of 40% of sexual assualt charges being false? |
Moosepoop |
Apr-20-06 10:40 AM |
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Let's be clear - I don't agree with the post suggesting 40% false claims |
onenote |
Apr-20-06 10:54 AM |
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BTW, Kanin discredited his own study |
FredScuttle |
Apr-20-06 05:07 PM |
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thus proving an exchange of information in an open forum is a good thing |
onenote |
Apr-20-06 05:56 PM |
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the study was not discredited by Kanin |
Neil Lisst |
Apr-20-06 06:03 PM |
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that's not discrediting it, that's explaining that it may not transpose |
Neil Lisst |
Apr-20-06 06:02 PM |
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I think its fair to say that he acknowledged its limits |
onenote |
Apr-20-06 06:07 PM |
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That's a fair statement. He gave the kind of limiting caution one |
Neil Lisst |
Apr-20-06 06:15 PM |
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And how far is that allowed to go? Injury? Death? |
FormerRepublican |
Apr-20-06 10:43 AM |
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There have been quite a few of those |
LostinVA |
Apr-20-06 12:43 PM |
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if you can't discuss this without calling other posters names |
Neil Lisst |
Apr-20-06 03:21 PM |
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how about 50% false accusations ? posted by ShaneGR |
bloom |
Apr-20-06 11:00 AM |
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His post is way off base |
timber84 |
Apr-20-06 11:21 AM |
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link? |
onenote |
Apr-20-06 11:30 AM |
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I agree |
timber84 |
Apr-20-06 11:42 AM |
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It's been posted quite a few times over the last week |
LostinVA |
Apr-20-06 12:51 PM |
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well then, a bunch of us have missed it quite a few times this week |
onenote |
Apr-20-06 01:37 PM |
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as I said, I'm skeptical of the Kanin study |
onenote |
Apr-20-06 11:27 AM |
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there isn't one. EXAGGERATION is the linch pin of their position |
Neil Lisst |
Apr-20-06 03:34 PM |
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Suggesting that most rape is lied about is a bit beyond the pale |
bryant69 |
Apr-20-06 09:51 AM |
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claiming biased, freeper, or liar |
FreakinDJ |
Apr-20-06 09:52 AM |
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I would suggest this: |
IselaB |
Apr-20-06 09:47 AM |
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non-violent marital rape |
FreakinDJ |
Apr-20-06 09:55 AM |
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yeah 'cause if a wife says no... |
VelmaD |
Apr-20-06 10:00 AM |
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You would have a difficult time proving she said NO |
FreakinDJ |
Apr-20-06 10:14 AM |
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Just because there's no proof doesn't mean it didn't happen. |
ThomCat |
Apr-20-06 12:04 PM |
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Not True |
FreakinDJ |
Apr-20-06 12:21 PM |
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What does her having an affair... |
VelmaD |
Apr-20-06 12:23 PM |
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The number I've seen is 2%. |
ThomCat |
Apr-20-06 12:27 PM |
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in over 40 percent of the cases reviewed |
FreakinDJ |
Apr-20-06 12:41 PM |
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From first hand experience |
ThomCat |
Apr-20-06 12:44 PM |
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It is not the sole basis for the over 30% are false accusations |
FreakinDJ |
Apr-20-06 12:49 PM |
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My personal experience says closer to 2% |
ThomCat |
Apr-20-06 12:58 PM |
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That flies in the face of some very reliable research 30% is accurate |
FreakinDJ |
Apr-20-06 01:03 PM |
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If you're working with survivors, how could you know the false cases? |
Neil Lisst |
Apr-20-06 03:42 PM |
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Recanted can mean a lot of things |
lwfern |
Apr-20-06 04:33 PM |
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Someone was raped, as per the medical evidence |
LostinVA |
Apr-20-06 12:50 PM |
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I'm sure I'll somehow be flamed for thinking so, but ... |
Akoto |
Apr-20-06 10:02 AM |
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The way it works |
bloom |
Apr-20-06 11:05 AM |
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I don't insist that there wasn't a rape ... |
Akoto |
Apr-20-06 11:46 AM |
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I 've met to many people who |
moobu2 |
Apr-20-06 10:05 AM |
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Many people say things |
ThomCat |
Apr-20-06 12:07 PM |
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That's not borne out in the rape stats by the FBI |
LostinVA |
Apr-20-06 12:56 PM |
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This is an interesting Rape stat from the FBI |
FreakinDJ |
Apr-20-06 02:11 PM |
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Your stats are sound, but watch them be ignored. |
Neil Lisst |
Apr-20-06 03:48 PM |
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Hurt feelings, dissappointment in fellows is the price of meaningful talk |
aikoaiko |
Apr-20-06 10:11 AM |
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Honestly some people just “Get Off” on justifiable anger |
FreakinDJ |
Apr-20-06 10:16 AM |
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Well make a report on your findings and submit it to the AMA |
bryant69 |
Apr-20-06 10:24 AM |
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Some people "get off" on justifiable anger... |
Moosepoop |
Apr-20-06 10:43 AM |
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who started the thread |
FreakinDJ |
Apr-20-06 12:10 PM |
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Do you have something you want to say to me, Freakin DJ? |
bryant69 |
Apr-20-06 01:19 PM |
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Your intentions |
FreakinDJ |
Apr-20-06 02:46 PM |
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OK |
bryant69 |
Apr-20-06 03:02 PM |
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Instead of framing the question in that means |
FreakinDJ |
Apr-20-06 04:02 PM |
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When you say "Look at who is saying this" |
bryant69 |
Apr-20-06 04:49 PM |
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true. It's called "acting out" and "projecting." |
Neil Lisst |
Apr-20-06 03:52 PM |
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I apologize if raising this question hurt or offended you |
bryant69 |
Apr-20-06 03:58 PM |
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What a strange post. How could you offend me? |
Neil Lisst |
Apr-20-06 04:28 PM |
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OK allow me to trace this back. |
bryant69 |
Apr-20-06 04:52 PM |
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I did not infer the link the perceive between his comments and yours |
Neil Lisst |
Apr-20-06 05:09 PM |
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Who are you to question? |
philosophie_en_rose |
Apr-20-06 10:46 AM |
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I personally think |
bloom |
Apr-20-06 10:47 AM |
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It's called secondary wounding |
Mandate My Ass |
Apr-20-06 10:55 AM |
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Thank you for posting this. |
Lars39 |
Apr-20-06 11:44 AM |
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the real problem is the perpetuation of the 'false rape' |
Mandate My Ass |
Apr-20-06 01:36 PM |
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Evidence is almost never clear cut in a rape case since |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Apr-20-06 11:12 AM |
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YES! |
jukes |
Apr-20-06 11:31 AM |
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It is completely impossible to be sensitive enough on DU |
johnnie |
Apr-20-06 11:47 AM |
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The woman in this case WAS raped, that's part of our problem |
LostinVA |
Apr-20-06 12:38 PM |
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What did she do before arriving at the Frat house |
FreakinDJ |
Apr-20-06 12:58 PM |
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what does that have to do with the price of tea in China? n/t |
gkhouston |
Apr-20-06 03:50 PM |
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So if that's all the evidence we need to day to convict people |
timber84 |
Apr-20-06 03:51 PM |
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The medical exam does not prove that she was raped. |
NaturalHigh |
Apr-20-06 08:07 PM |
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I Vote |
novalib |
Apr-20-06 01:02 PM |
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Well I didn't mean suggesting it to her face |
bryant69 |
Apr-20-06 01:18 PM |
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Questioning whether a rape happened is necessary, given these facts. |
Neil Lisst |
Apr-20-06 03:26 PM |
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more than DNA |
quantessd |
Apr-20-06 04:01 PM |
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No, the jury decides. They hear testimony from doctors for both sides. |
Neil Lisst |
Apr-20-06 04:23 PM |
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Not When The Case Is Wide Open Like The Duke One. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Apr-20-06 06:03 PM |
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It's a question that must be asked. |
NaturalHigh |
Apr-20-06 08:06 PM |
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