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Thu Apr-20-06 11:45 AM
Response to Reply #62 |
| 64. Given some of the posts I've read, she SHOULD have verbally... |
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...attacked the other poster. WRT whether she actually did or not - I donno. I didn't find out about it until after the fact.
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| -Is questioning whether a rape happened insensitive to rape victims? |
bryant69 |
Apr-20-06 09:28 AM |
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I'm sorry but "the spin" has made me go numb ... |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-20-06 09:35 AM |
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Keeping things neutral |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Apr-20-06 09:35 AM |
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It is rare for rape to be taken seriously by cops. |
ThomCat |
Apr-20-06 11:56 AM |
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Actually, that depends on where you are and who your chief |
Clark2008 |
Apr-20-06 06:10 PM |
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The correct response to offensive |
cali |
Apr-20-06 09:39 AM |
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Everyone wants rights but... |
VelmaD |
Apr-20-06 09:43 AM |
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THANK YOU!!! You spoke for me. |
FormerRepublican |
Apr-20-06 09:45 AM |
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You're welcome |
VelmaD |
Apr-20-06 09:49 AM |
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you give liberals too much credit. |
cali |
Apr-20-06 09:50 AM |
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There's no responsibility to not be an asshole |
bryant69 |
Apr-20-06 09:53 AM |
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Then why is it illegal to yell "fire!" in a crowded theatre? |
FormerRepublican |
Apr-20-06 09:56 AM |
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sure there are limits, but hurt feelings is not the same thing |
onenote |
Apr-20-06 10:01 AM |
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When it involves rape victims, the harm can be far greater than how... |
FormerRepublican |
Apr-20-06 10:05 AM |
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keep digging that hole. |
cali |
Apr-20-06 10:27 AM |
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Yes, I agree that someone should be prevented from yelling... |
FormerRepublican |
Apr-20-06 10:38 AM |
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Non-responsive. |
cali |
Apr-20-06 11:00 AM |
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Do any of us have the power to limit your free speech? |
bryant69 |
Apr-20-06 11:06 AM |
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What have I posted that's been insensitive re this discussion |
cali |
Apr-20-06 11:16 AM |
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Sexism is against DU rules. |
FormerRepublican |
Apr-20-06 11:21 AM |
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I didn't say I wasn't offended. |
cali |
Apr-20-06 11:29 AM |
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You have your opinion, I have mine. I don't like people injured.... |
FormerRepublican |
Apr-20-06 11:37 AM |
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Hmmmmm |
bryant69 |
Apr-20-06 11:31 AM |
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Deleted message |
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Apr-20-06 11:36 AM |
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That doesn't sound very good |
bryant69 |
Apr-20-06 11:38 AM |
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Did she verbally attack the other poster? |
timber84 |
Apr-20-06 11:43 AM |
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Given some of the posts I've read, she SHOULD have verbally... |
FormerRepublican |
Apr-20-06 11:45 AM |
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Was she being attacked by them? |
timber84 |
Apr-20-06 11:48 AM |
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For the love of God (or whoever or nobody) would you two STOP! |
Clark2008 |
Apr-20-06 06:38 PM |
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Hurt feelings or psychological damage |
cali |
Apr-20-06 10:13 AM |
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And yet telling your kid every day that they're worthless and don't.... |
FormerRepublican |
Apr-20-06 10:17 AM |
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That has nothing to do with |
cali |
Apr-20-06 10:22 AM |
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Which is exactly what I'm doing, by pointing out that "free speech" can't |
FormerRepublican |
Apr-20-06 10:39 AM |
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cali, you have my proxy on this issue. |
Neil Lisst |
Apr-20-06 03:14 PM |
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We have to respectfully disagree... |
VelmaD |
Apr-20-06 09:58 AM |
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True. But you reap what you sow. |
philosophie_en_rose |
Apr-20-06 10:50 AM |
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It's just not your job |
Warpy |
Apr-20-06 09:40 AM |
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It depends on how you do it... |
VelmaD |
Apr-20-06 09:45 AM |
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I have not seen one single post here that said the majority of |
timber84 |
Apr-20-06 09:48 AM |
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I'm not going back and re-reading... |
VelmaD |
Apr-20-06 09:53 AM |
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I think I've kept up with alot of the postings here about the |
timber84 |
Apr-20-06 09:57 AM |
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I can show you a thread where rape victims are accused of... |
FormerRepublican |
Apr-20-06 09:53 AM |
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not the same thing as a post suggesting that most rape claims are false |
onenote |
Apr-20-06 10:14 AM |
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How about a claim of 40% of sexual assualt charges being false? |
Moosepoop |
Apr-20-06 10:40 AM |
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Let's be clear - I don't agree with the post suggesting 40% false claims |
onenote |
Apr-20-06 10:54 AM |
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BTW, Kanin discredited his own study |
FredScuttle |
Apr-20-06 05:07 PM |
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thus proving an exchange of information in an open forum is a good thing |
onenote |
Apr-20-06 05:56 PM |
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the study was not discredited by Kanin |
Neil Lisst |
Apr-20-06 06:03 PM |
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that's not discrediting it, that's explaining that it may not transpose |
Neil Lisst |
Apr-20-06 06:02 PM |
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I think its fair to say that he acknowledged its limits |
onenote |
Apr-20-06 06:07 PM |
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That's a fair statement. He gave the kind of limiting caution one |
Neil Lisst |
Apr-20-06 06:15 PM |
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And how far is that allowed to go? Injury? Death? |
FormerRepublican |
Apr-20-06 10:43 AM |
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There have been quite a few of those |
LostinVA |
Apr-20-06 12:43 PM |
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if you can't discuss this without calling other posters names |
Neil Lisst |
Apr-20-06 03:21 PM |
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how about 50% false accusations ? posted by ShaneGR |
bloom |
Apr-20-06 11:00 AM |
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His post is way off base |
timber84 |
Apr-20-06 11:21 AM |
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link? |
onenote |
Apr-20-06 11:30 AM |
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I agree |
timber84 |
Apr-20-06 11:42 AM |
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It's been posted quite a few times over the last week |
LostinVA |
Apr-20-06 12:51 PM |
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well then, a bunch of us have missed it quite a few times this week |
onenote |
Apr-20-06 01:37 PM |
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as I said, I'm skeptical of the Kanin study |
onenote |
Apr-20-06 11:27 AM |
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there isn't one. EXAGGERATION is the linch pin of their position |
Neil Lisst |
Apr-20-06 03:34 PM |
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Suggesting that most rape is lied about is a bit beyond the pale |
bryant69 |
Apr-20-06 09:51 AM |
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claiming biased, freeper, or liar |
FreakinDJ |
Apr-20-06 09:52 AM |
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I would suggest this: |
IselaB |
Apr-20-06 09:47 AM |
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non-violent marital rape |
FreakinDJ |
Apr-20-06 09:55 AM |
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yeah 'cause if a wife says no... |
VelmaD |
Apr-20-06 10:00 AM |
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You would have a difficult time proving she said NO |
FreakinDJ |
Apr-20-06 10:14 AM |
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Just because there's no proof doesn't mean it didn't happen. |
ThomCat |
Apr-20-06 12:04 PM |
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Not True |
FreakinDJ |
Apr-20-06 12:21 PM |
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What does her having an affair... |
VelmaD |
Apr-20-06 12:23 PM |
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The number I've seen is 2%. |
ThomCat |
Apr-20-06 12:27 PM |
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in over 40 percent of the cases reviewed |
FreakinDJ |
Apr-20-06 12:41 PM |
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From first hand experience |
ThomCat |
Apr-20-06 12:44 PM |
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It is not the sole basis for the over 30% are false accusations |
FreakinDJ |
Apr-20-06 12:49 PM |
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My personal experience says closer to 2% |
ThomCat |
Apr-20-06 12:58 PM |
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That flies in the face of some very reliable research 30% is accurate |
FreakinDJ |
Apr-20-06 01:03 PM |
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If you're working with survivors, how could you know the false cases? |
Neil Lisst |
Apr-20-06 03:42 PM |
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Recanted can mean a lot of things |
lwfern |
Apr-20-06 04:33 PM |
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Someone was raped, as per the medical evidence |
LostinVA |
Apr-20-06 12:50 PM |
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I'm sure I'll somehow be flamed for thinking so, but ... |
Akoto |
Apr-20-06 10:02 AM |
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The way it works |
bloom |
Apr-20-06 11:05 AM |
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I don't insist that there wasn't a rape ... |
Akoto |
Apr-20-06 11:46 AM |
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I 've met to many people who |
moobu2 |
Apr-20-06 10:05 AM |
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Many people say things |
ThomCat |
Apr-20-06 12:07 PM |
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That's not borne out in the rape stats by the FBI |
LostinVA |
Apr-20-06 12:56 PM |
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This is an interesting Rape stat from the FBI |
FreakinDJ |
Apr-20-06 02:11 PM |
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Your stats are sound, but watch them be ignored. |
Neil Lisst |
Apr-20-06 03:48 PM |
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Hurt feelings, dissappointment in fellows is the price of meaningful talk |
aikoaiko |
Apr-20-06 10:11 AM |
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Honestly some people just “Get Off” on justifiable anger |
FreakinDJ |
Apr-20-06 10:16 AM |
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Well make a report on your findings and submit it to the AMA |
bryant69 |
Apr-20-06 10:24 AM |
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Some people "get off" on justifiable anger... |
Moosepoop |
Apr-20-06 10:43 AM |
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who started the thread |
FreakinDJ |
Apr-20-06 12:10 PM |
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Do you have something you want to say to me, Freakin DJ? |
bryant69 |
Apr-20-06 01:19 PM |
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Your intentions |
FreakinDJ |
Apr-20-06 02:46 PM |
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OK |
bryant69 |
Apr-20-06 03:02 PM |
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Instead of framing the question in that means |
FreakinDJ |
Apr-20-06 04:02 PM |
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When you say "Look at who is saying this" |
bryant69 |
Apr-20-06 04:49 PM |
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true. It's called "acting out" and "projecting." |
Neil Lisst |
Apr-20-06 03:52 PM |
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I apologize if raising this question hurt or offended you |
bryant69 |
Apr-20-06 03:58 PM |
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What a strange post. How could you offend me? |
Neil Lisst |
Apr-20-06 04:28 PM |
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OK allow me to trace this back. |
bryant69 |
Apr-20-06 04:52 PM |
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I did not infer the link the perceive between his comments and yours |
Neil Lisst |
Apr-20-06 05:09 PM |
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Who are you to question? |
philosophie_en_rose |
Apr-20-06 10:46 AM |
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I personally think |
bloom |
Apr-20-06 10:47 AM |
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It's called secondary wounding |
Mandate My Ass |
Apr-20-06 10:55 AM |
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Thank you for posting this. |
Lars39 |
Apr-20-06 11:44 AM |
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the real problem is the perpetuation of the 'false rape' |
Mandate My Ass |
Apr-20-06 01:36 PM |
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Evidence is almost never clear cut in a rape case since |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Apr-20-06 11:12 AM |
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YES! |
jukes |
Apr-20-06 11:31 AM |
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It is completely impossible to be sensitive enough on DU |
johnnie |
Apr-20-06 11:47 AM |
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The woman in this case WAS raped, that's part of our problem |
LostinVA |
Apr-20-06 12:38 PM |
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What did she do before arriving at the Frat house |
FreakinDJ |
Apr-20-06 12:58 PM |
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what does that have to do with the price of tea in China? n/t |
gkhouston |
Apr-20-06 03:50 PM |
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So if that's all the evidence we need to day to convict people |
timber84 |
Apr-20-06 03:51 PM |
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The medical exam does not prove that she was raped. |
NaturalHigh |
Apr-20-06 08:07 PM |
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I Vote |
novalib |
Apr-20-06 01:02 PM |
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Well I didn't mean suggesting it to her face |
bryant69 |
Apr-20-06 01:18 PM |
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Questioning whether a rape happened is necessary, given these facts. |
Neil Lisst |
Apr-20-06 03:26 PM |
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more than DNA |
quantessd |
Apr-20-06 04:01 PM |
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No, the jury decides. They hear testimony from doctors for both sides. |
Neil Lisst |
Apr-20-06 04:23 PM |
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Not When The Case Is Wide Open Like The Duke One. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Apr-20-06 06:03 PM |
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It's a question that must be asked. |
NaturalHigh |
Apr-20-06 08:06 PM |
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