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Wed Apr-19-06 08:03 PM
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| 52. I don't think that anyone can be totally insulated from religion; |
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But the debate as to weather man is naturally good or bad is a great topic for debate.
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| -Can You Be A Completely Moral Person Without Organized Religion? |
ruggerson |
Apr-19-06 07:28 PM |
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YES |
madmunchie |
Apr-19-06 07:28 PM |
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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
muntrv |
Apr-19-06 07:28 PM |
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Yes, without a doubt. No question about it. eom |
madeline_con |
Apr-19-06 07:29 PM |
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Yes. |
XanaDUer |
Apr-19-06 07:29 PM |
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Not a crutch |
China_cat |
Apr-19-06 07:29 PM |
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Good way to put it! LOL! |
msgadget |
Apr-19-06 07:30 PM |
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Yep. |
H2O Man |
Apr-19-06 07:30 PM |
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Very well said, my friend |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Apr-19-06 07:34 PM |
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Right. |
H2O Man |
Apr-19-06 07:40 PM |
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Ho Metaquiatsun |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Apr-19-06 07:55 PM |
#44 |
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Great! |
H2O Man |
Apr-19-06 08:00 PM |
#51 |
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Religion is a handicap |
Left Below |
Apr-19-06 07:30 PM |
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yes, fellow freethinker. |
cain_7777 |
Apr-20-06 07:30 AM |
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And then there are people like KKK Rove who are |
Hardrada |
Apr-19-06 07:30 PM |
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I daresay |
OldLeftieLawyer |
Apr-19-06 07:31 PM |
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I think a person is also braver, knowing there is no reward |
Hardrada |
Apr-19-06 07:33 PM |
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It's also a far more altruistic motivation |
ruggerson |
Apr-19-06 07:36 PM |
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Although I will amend that |
ruggerson |
Apr-19-06 07:50 PM |
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I resemble that comment :-) |
madokie |
Apr-19-06 07:45 PM |
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Bingo, my friend |
OldLeftieLawyer |
Apr-19-06 08:32 PM |
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Yes! |
cain_7777 |
Apr-20-06 07:33 AM |
#114 |
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I suppose. |
HuckleB |
Apr-20-06 08:22 AM |
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Of course |
LeftyMom |
Apr-19-06 07:31 PM |
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Of course. It's a stupid question. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Apr-19-06 07:32 PM |
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You don't need religion to have a belief system |
marbuc |
Apr-19-06 07:33 PM |
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But, can you have a moral belief system, |
jedr |
Apr-19-06 07:49 PM |
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Interesting. |
H2O Man |
Apr-19-06 07:56 PM |
#45 |
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I know people that have had limited exposure to religion |
marbuc |
Apr-19-06 07:57 PM |
#46 |
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I don't think that anyone can be totally insulated from religion; |
jedr |
Apr-19-06 08:03 PM |
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I will tell you this: |
marbuc |
Apr-19-06 08:10 PM |
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Unless your moral system is based on logic... |
antigone382 |
Apr-19-06 10:19 PM |
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So, for example, |
ruggerson |
Apr-20-06 12:33 AM |
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late post , hope you get to read it; |
jedr |
Apr-20-06 07:00 AM |
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not true. |
antifaschits |
Apr-20-06 08:15 AM |
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Yes. nt |
jody |
Apr-19-06 07:33 PM |
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I am living proof....! |
SnoopDog |
Apr-19-06 07:35 PM |
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Absolutely!!!!! |
suziedemocrat |
Apr-19-06 07:35 PM |
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Does the Pope shit in the woods? |
Ezlivin |
Apr-19-06 07:35 PM |
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You can ask... |
marbuc |
Apr-19-06 08:04 PM |
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I love that comment, lol |
DIKB |
Apr-20-06 06:39 AM |
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Yes, and maybe the opposite is more true |
Xeric |
Apr-19-06 07:37 PM |
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Your post reminds me of a Mark Twain Quote: |
Blue Belle |
Apr-20-06 12:08 PM |
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I've always thought of this as one of my big strengths |
Mr_Spock |
Apr-19-06 07:37 PM |
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no |
maxsolomon |
Apr-19-06 07:38 PM |
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Urm, did you perchance neglect to include a |
karlrschneider |
Apr-19-06 07:42 PM |
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i'm sick of the sarcasm simile! |
maxsolomon |
Apr-20-06 10:53 AM |
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Do you know what a conscience is? |
SofaKingLiberal |
Apr-20-06 01:32 AM |
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Hello Machiavelli, Leo Strauss, |
rman |
Apr-20-06 07:39 AM |
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I thought it was LEVI Strauss |
corkhead |
Apr-20-06 11:39 AM |
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definitely Leo Strauss |
rman |
Apr-20-06 12:23 PM |
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LOL |
gollygee |
Apr-20-06 09:29 AM |
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There really is not much need of any "moral code" beyond what's |
karlrschneider |
Apr-19-06 07:38 PM |
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Call on me ....... call on me. |
Botany |
Apr-19-06 07:38 PM |
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absolutely |
ixion |
Apr-19-06 07:39 PM |
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Republicans solve every issue with "Fear" |
Lost-in-FL |
Apr-19-06 07:42 PM |
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YES!!!!!! |
hobbit709 |
Apr-19-06 07:45 PM |
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Ouch |
Lost-in-FL |
Apr-19-06 07:46 PM |
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Absolutely yes. - n/t |
porphyrian |
Apr-19-06 07:46 PM |
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Oh My God...YES!! Absolutely. Wingnuts are religious..not spiratual. |
paparush |
Apr-19-06 07:47 PM |
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Buddhism has been around for 2,600 years, it isn't a religion.. |
sam sarrha |
Apr-19-06 07:47 PM |
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For some reason sam sarrha, when I have mentioned that Buddhism isn't |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Apr-20-06 07:13 AM |
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everybody has to start where they are.. i see it as a psychology, untill |
sam sarrha |
Apr-20-06 11:11 AM |
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Thank you for your excellent explanation. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Apr-20-06 12:46 PM |
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Comprehensively. |
understandinglife |
Apr-19-06 07:48 PM |
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It would be nice if more people wouldn't tie spirituality to it. n/t |
cynatnite |
Apr-19-06 07:49 PM |
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yep |
GreenInNC |
Apr-19-06 07:51 PM |
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Of course you can but you misunderstand the value of faith |
Perky |
Apr-19-06 07:52 PM |
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Can you be a completely moral person and go to your job tomorrow? |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-19-06 07:53 PM |
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I was raised Catholic, thus racist, sexist, and destructive |
Submariner |
Apr-19-06 07:55 PM |
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not only can i be completely moral, in todays times and religion |
seabeyond |
Apr-19-06 07:55 PM |
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Depends. |
EST |
Apr-19-06 07:58 PM |
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We know that people can be highly immoral with religion, so... |
TechBear_Seattle |
Apr-19-06 07:58 PM |
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Of course |
W_HAMILTON |
Apr-19-06 07:59 PM |
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Nope. You gotta have a building and a preacher and a schedule |
kurth |
Apr-19-06 07:59 PM |
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Well, of course. |
Just Me |
Apr-19-06 08:03 PM |
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What a strange question. |
Yollam |
Apr-19-06 08:05 PM |
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Of course |
Everybody |
Apr-19-06 08:05 PM |
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Of course! I know atheists who are more Christian that Christians. |
KansDem |
Apr-19-06 08:06 PM |
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TOTALLY! |
PretzelzRule |
Apr-19-06 08:09 PM |
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Depends what one's definition of morality is |
mandyky |
Apr-19-06 08:13 PM |
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About 110% more moral than a significant number of the religious. |
sinkingfeeling |
Apr-19-06 08:16 PM |
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Yes, yes, one thousand times, YES. |
kgfnally |
Apr-19-06 08:17 PM |
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can you be a completely moral person WITH organized religion? |
QuestionAll |
Apr-19-06 08:21 PM |
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I don't think the mainstream religions cover much morality at |
Cleita |
Apr-19-06 08:22 PM |
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Absolutely. nt |
bklyncowgirl |
Apr-19-06 08:24 PM |
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These Republicans DO need a fundamentalist structure |
melody |
Apr-19-06 08:34 PM |
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Do people assume that religious people are moral? I don't, i take each |
chimpsrsmarter |
Apr-19-06 08:37 PM |
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Thats what we all should do and not |
augie38 |
Apr-19-06 09:26 PM |
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Organized religion's influence is inescapable ... |
twenty2strings |
Apr-19-06 08:44 PM |
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yes |
jukes |
Apr-19-06 08:57 PM |
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Of course. I know a number of atheists who are among the most decent, |
grannylib |
Apr-19-06 08:59 PM |
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I'm one of those decent, etc., atheists. |
RebelOne |
Apr-20-06 07:42 AM |
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It Depends On Whose Morals You Consider |
Southpawkicker |
Apr-19-06 09:04 PM |
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I long for the day when the bias swings the other way |
Solly Mack |
Apr-19-06 09:33 PM |
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Of course |
ruggerson |
Apr-20-06 12:46 AM |
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Morality has nothing to do with religion. |
DanCa |
Apr-19-06 09:56 PM |
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Easier without it. Much easier. I want to hurt people in church. |
NoSheep |
Apr-19-06 09:57 PM |
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Orthodox pious LIEberman is OK with |
Hardrada |
Apr-19-06 10:06 PM |
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Well DUH-hhhhuuuhhhhh n/t |
UTUSN |
Apr-19-06 10:08 PM |
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Well, yes, given that NOBODY is perfect....... |
kestrel91316 |
Apr-19-06 10:48 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Apr-19-06 10:51 PM |
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A very silly question. It would have been better had the question |
ladjf |
Apr-19-06 11:19 PM |
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Bing, bing, bing! Answer of the Day. |
Hissyspit |
Apr-20-06 12:39 AM |
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Can you be a completely moral person WITH organized religion? |
dansolo |
Apr-19-06 11:20 PM |
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More so. I was raised in a fundie church and school. |
Lindacooks |
Apr-20-06 12:36 AM |
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reminds me of a part in the movie "Saved" |
newspeak |
Apr-20-06 12:52 AM |
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Yes. I'm not sure you can be a completely moral person WITH religion. |
Neil Lisst |
Apr-20-06 12:41 AM |
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Strong Yes. nt |
greyl |
Apr-20-06 12:48 AM |
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I vote Yes. But the tag sales are better in organized religion. |
Old Crusoe |
Apr-20-06 01:27 AM |
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yeppers. |
fleabert |
Apr-20-06 01:36 AM |
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yes... ...NT |
Karenca |
Apr-20-06 01:43 AM |
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Yes! I am more Christian than most who claim they are..and I was born |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Apr-20-06 06:48 AM |
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Yes, and I understand eclectic, too! |
katinmn |
Apr-20-06 06:56 AM |
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Same here katinmn. :) eom |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Apr-20-06 07:10 AM |
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Do you mean |
0007 |
Apr-20-06 07:22 AM |
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If organized religion e.g. as manifested by Christian churches |
niallmac |
Apr-20-06 07:02 AM |
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you can be a perfectly moral person without god or religion |
lionesspriyanka |
Apr-20-06 07:06 AM |
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I don;t think anyone can be COMPLETELY moral regardless of rel. |
aikoaiko |
Apr-20-06 07:08 AM |
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Yes you can be moral without organized religion |
flblu2 |
Apr-20-06 07:08 AM |
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Of course... |
sendero |
Apr-20-06 07:08 AM |
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Yes |
tlsmith1963 |
Apr-20-06 07:11 AM |
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Absolutely. |
sparosnare |
Apr-20-06 07:17 AM |
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I totally agree that religion can be used this way but I believe |
truckin |
Apr-20-06 08:21 AM |
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No religion has an exclusive on morality... |
hexola |
Apr-20-06 07:20 AM |
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More likely, I'd say. (NT) |
Tesha |
Apr-20-06 07:20 AM |
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Don't know anyone who is "completely moral." |
ehrnst |
Apr-20-06 07:23 AM |
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Nonbelievers are much more moral than religious people! |
cain_7777 |
Apr-20-06 07:27 AM |
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Can You Be A Completely Immoral Person With Organized Religion? |
rman |
Apr-20-06 07:37 AM |
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morality is in the eye of the beholder |
michiganbuckeye1970 |
Apr-20-06 07:45 AM |
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Yes you can. |
SunDrop23 |
Apr-20-06 07:51 AM |
#119 |
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"And what is good, Phaedrus, and what is not good -- |
Buns_of_Fire |
Apr-20-06 07:52 AM |
#120 |
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No, no one is completely moral with or without religion. However, |
truckin |
Apr-20-06 07:56 AM |
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Why is it more difficult? |
sparosnare |
Apr-20-06 08:01 AM |
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In my case I have found that I have led a better, less selfish life |
truckin |
Apr-20-06 08:10 AM |
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Thanks for responding. |
sparosnare |
Apr-20-06 09:27 AM |
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I agree that everyone should be treated with respect but I do |
truckin |
Apr-20-06 09:38 AM |
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The annulment thing didn't woork out for Henry VIII either. |
Hardrada |
Apr-20-06 06:29 PM |
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Nonsense. I was raised by atheists and have never attended a |
Lorien |
Apr-20-06 07:40 PM |
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My sister is agnostic-leaning towards atheistic and leads a more Christian |
elehhhhna |
Apr-20-06 08:01 AM |
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Absolutely! n/t |
Joe Fields |
Apr-20-06 08:19 AM |
#126 |
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I think it's much harder to be a moral person |
DoYouEverWonder |
Apr-20-06 08:22 AM |
#129 |
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yes |
APPLE314 |
Apr-20-06 08:25 AM |
#130 |
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Only if you sing hymns |
progressoid |
Apr-20-06 09:00 AM |
#131 |
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You got it! |
DVJNU |
Apr-20-06 09:19 AM |
#135 |
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You can? |
NoMoreMyths |
Apr-20-06 09:02 AM |
#132 |
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I would also add |
DVJNU |
Apr-20-06 09:13 AM |
#133 |
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Yes, absolutely eom |
Carni |
Apr-20-06 09:14 AM |
#134 |
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morality hasn't a damn thing to do with religion (n/t) |
Triana |
Apr-20-06 09:23 AM |
#136 |
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Not if your going to run for office it seems. |
newportdadde |
Apr-20-06 09:27 AM |
#138 |
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Perhaps even more so. |
SmokingJacket |
Apr-20-06 09:28 AM |
#139 |
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All you need is mental health and compassion, Bush clearly lacking |
soleft |
Apr-20-06 09:29 AM |
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Of course not. |
BiggJawn |
Apr-20-06 09:35 AM |
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I don't think it's possible to be a completely moral person either way. |
Marr |
Apr-20-06 09:36 AM |
#143 |
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Yes of course... Also, you can be very immoral with religion |
nini |
Apr-20-06 10:55 AM |
#146 |
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IMHO ethics and morality are independent from religious observation |
wryter2000 |
Apr-20-06 10:55 AM |
#147 |
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People do not dictate morality |
PATRICK |
Apr-20-06 10:59 AM |
#148 |
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Yes, of course! |
ceile |
Apr-20-06 11:00 AM |
#149 |
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Of course you can. NT |
baby_mouse |
Apr-20-06 11:04 AM |
#150 |
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Some of the most Immoral people in the World are "religious" |
Blue Belle |
Apr-20-06 11:35 AM |
#152 |
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Yes. |
Ex Lion Tamer |
Apr-20-06 12:47 PM |
#157 |
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It's all academic ... I wasn't planning on being completely moral anyway. |
eppur_se_muova |
Apr-20-06 06:06 PM |
#158 |
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No. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Apr-20-06 06:30 PM |
#160 |
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I want one of those get out of jail free cars |
Hardrada |
Apr-20-06 06:34 PM |
#161 |
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YES.... |
DemGirl7 |
Apr-20-06 07:23 PM |
#162 |
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I'm a very moral atheist |
Lorien |
Apr-20-06 07:34 PM |
#163 |
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Sure. But one can also participate in organized religion |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-20-06 08:02 PM |
#165 |
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Please excuse a bit of cynacism, |
LearnedHand |
Apr-20-06 11:39 PM |
#166 |
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