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Wed Apr-19-06 04:44 PM
Response to Reply #62 |
| 73. "Belief people" are definitely vulnerable to fascist beliefs, but. . . |
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Edited on Wed Apr-19-06 04:46 PM by pat_k
. . . I think belief people are found across the political spectrum. From the discussion that followed that original post on Salon's TableTalk Post #3623. . .When beliefs are adopted because authority figures promote the belief, the whole process becomes "people-based." This is why belief people tend to attack a belief by attacking the people they view as the source, not the facts behind the belief.
The thing that varies so much are the people a belief person identifies as an authorities. There are positive and negative authority figures. They can adopt beliefs that are grounded in reality and beliefs that are not. Im my view, there are belief people across the political spectrum.
On the other hand, knowledge people are less likely to adopt beliefs and opinions that are at odds with reality, so very few knowledge people adopt political views that are at odds with reality, counter-productive, or just plain fascist.
Just because a vast majority of the members of the opposition are belief people, doesn't mean that all belief people are members of the opposition. In case you're interested, here are some other posts from the belief people/knowledge people discussion. - Post #3625 -- Franken v. Luther dialog with commentary (typical knowledge person v. belief person exchange (continues in Post #3626 and Post #3628)
- Post #3693 -- Using the "theory" to communicate more effectively.
- Post #3696 -- Stab at an operational definition
- Posts #3608, #3615, #3813 -- More on using the "theory" to deal more effectively with belief-people (or at least make the dealings less frustrating)
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| -Just had a freep encounter at 7-11. |
maveric |
Apr-19-06 01:58 PM |
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that's where they are right now |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Apr-19-06 01:59 PM |
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And Ayeshahaqqiqa... |
Ecumenist |
Apr-19-06 02:01 PM |
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Nobody has to |
Warpy |
Apr-19-06 02:24 PM |
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She and many other freeptards will go postal... on each other. |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-19-06 02:27 PM |
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Hmmm.... what do you think the right kind of catalyst |
Dr_eldritch |
Apr-19-06 06:12 PM |
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More issues like illegal immigration? |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-19-06 06:50 PM |
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In a room full of freepers, just innocenlty ask these two questions: |
Catrina |
Apr-19-06 07:52 PM |
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That is sooo sweet.... |
Dr_eldritch |
Apr-19-06 09:54 PM |
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Been Hearing that, too! |
AuntiBush |
Apr-19-06 10:46 PM |
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I'll take "go postal" for 1000.00, Alex. eom |
Ecumenist |
Apr-19-06 02:28 PM |
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Tell me about your name |
Geoff R. Casavant |
Apr-19-06 03:00 PM |
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Not Hopi. Arabic |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Apr-19-06 06:03 PM |
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OMG... |
Ecumenist |
Apr-19-06 02:00 PM |
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The clerk is wise |
BOSSHOG |
Apr-19-06 02:01 PM |
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"ignorance is strength" n/t |
arcane1 |
Apr-19-06 02:12 PM |
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Agreed..the clerk's statement was the best part of the story |
mtnester |
Apr-19-06 05:00 PM |
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That finger in the ears thing is popular among the freepi |
librechik |
Apr-19-06 02:04 PM |
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Covering the mouths of people who speak inconvenient truths, as well. |
Marr |
Apr-19-06 04:00 PM |
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$Six Billion/Month for Iraq. You could wallpaper all the welfare |
Inland |
Apr-19-06 02:04 PM |
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Repeat after me "$30,00 per taxpayer, $30,000 each, $30 fucken thou..." |
joeunderdog |
Apr-19-06 04:07 PM |
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There was a time |
Turbineguy |
Apr-19-06 02:04 PM |
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Good job, maveric. Judging from her reaction, you |
babylonsister |
Apr-19-06 02:05 PM |
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What's with the fingers in the ears thing...? |
Mythsaje |
Apr-19-06 02:05 PM |
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The week the media actually reported that Iraq had no WMD |
CrispyQGirl |
Apr-19-06 02:29 PM |
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You gotta wonder |
Mythsaje |
Apr-19-06 02:43 PM |
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Like so? |
Marr |
Apr-19-06 04:03 PM |
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This is clearly some sort of cult behavior!!! |
suziedemocrat |
Apr-19-06 07:13 PM |
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Exactly! |
Mythsaje |
Apr-20-06 02:27 AM |
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Thank you, this was my first thought as well |
TommyO |
Apr-20-06 07:53 AM |
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Yes. They are. And unfortunately they are allowed to vote. |
kestrel91316 |
Apr-19-06 10:57 PM |
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Bizarre. |
Blue State Native |
Apr-19-06 02:05 PM |
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"I don't have time to listen to this crap." |
skypilot |
Apr-19-06 02:06 PM |
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It's only crap if you disagree with their version of truth. |
Arkansas Granny |
Apr-19-06 02:26 PM |
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you were quick on the draw with the facts |
tatertop |
Apr-19-06 02:06 PM |
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How much ya wanna bet that she has Rushbo on the truck radio? |
maveric |
Apr-19-06 02:16 PM |
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I would say so, but I forgive her |
MikeNearMcChord |
Apr-19-06 02:22 PM |
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Hey, welcome to DU, neighbor |
geniph |
Apr-19-06 03:21 PM |
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Thanx to all of you, |
MikeNearMcChord |
Apr-19-06 04:25 PM |
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so true.. |
frylock |
Apr-19-06 03:25 PM |
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were glad youre here mike - i am interested to know how you were |
faithnotgreed |
Apr-19-06 03:27 PM |
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identity politics -- their head would explode if they accepted the truth |
Supersedeas |
Apr-19-06 02:08 PM |
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yeah, about a year ago |
newspeak |
Apr-19-06 02:09 PM |
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Can you believe this shit? She put her fingers in her ears? |
fooj |
Apr-19-06 02:12 PM |
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Reminds me of the clip from a while back |
rniel |
Apr-19-06 02:13 PM |
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Janet Parshall...I wish I could find the screenshot. |
feminazi |
Apr-19-06 02:16 PM |
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This one? |
FLSurfer |
Apr-19-06 02:35 PM |
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Look! A freeper meetup! |
giant_robot |
Apr-19-06 04:23 PM |
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lol! I can't believe a grown woman stuffed her fingers in her ears. |
guinivere |
Apr-19-06 04:55 PM |
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I saw her do it on live TV! I couldn't believe my eyes. n/t |
CottonBear |
Apr-20-06 02:56 PM |
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That Sums up the Freeps...head in sand (or in ass)..fingers in ears... |
paparush |
Apr-19-06 02:14 PM |
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EXCELLENT comeback maveric! Absolutely perfect! |
NotGivingUp |
Apr-19-06 02:16 PM |
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I'm just so tired of hearing that the poor in this country are the blame.. |
maveric |
Apr-19-06 02:21 PM |
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She is a moron to do it in a marked truck |
MemphisTiger |
Apr-19-06 02:19 PM |
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You say she was buying a lottery ticket huh? |
underpants |
Apr-19-06 02:19 PM |
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And Marlboros. |
maveric |
Apr-19-06 02:21 PM |
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Oooh, Lotto tickets and Marlboros - sounds like a busy afternoon! |
Blue Belle |
Apr-19-06 03:28 PM |
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That was my thought -- tax on people who're bad at math!! (n/t) |
klook |
Apr-19-06 05:08 PM |
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Some people like to be fucking stupid...explains the entire GOP thing... |
warrens |
Apr-19-06 02:20 PM |
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My own conversation with a freeper. |
apple_ridge |
Apr-19-06 02:20 PM |
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Was she buying gas there too? |
calipendence |
Apr-19-06 02:21 PM |
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No but right across the street they wer changing the price #'s on the sign |
maveric |
Apr-19-06 02:23 PM |
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Is 7-11 actually "blue"? |
kath |
Apr-19-06 09:26 PM |
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Not a lot of money spent but BuyBlue.org does have them 84% blue |
calipendence |
Apr-19-06 11:38 PM |
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Wow! That's Classic! |
zidzi |
Apr-19-06 02:21 PM |
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Its getting "bluer" as we speak. |
maveric |
Apr-19-06 02:25 PM |
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She's probably PO'd about 50th District election results! |
calipendence |
Apr-19-06 02:28 PM |
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I used to live in the 50th |
zidzi |
Apr-19-06 02:47 PM |
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It happened last week on the 11th... |
calipendence |
Apr-19-06 02:54 PM |
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Thank you! Looks like |
zidzi |
Apr-19-06 03:15 PM |
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You and that clerk rule. |
Zhade |
Apr-19-06 02:21 PM |
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Belief people v. Knowledge people. . . |
pat_k |
Apr-19-06 02:22 PM |
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That really hits the nail on the head |
geniph |
Apr-19-06 03:24 PM |
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links |
pat_k |
Apr-19-06 04:50 PM |
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This explains the GOP demonization of Democrats very well. |
July |
Apr-19-06 03:38 PM |
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"Belief people" are definitely vulnerable to fascist beliefs, but. . . |
pat_k |
Apr-19-06 04:44 PM |
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I agree that belief people can be found in all segments of society. |
July |
Apr-19-06 06:55 PM |
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Since they are across the board. . . |
pat_k |
Apr-19-06 08:30 PM |
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Thanks, it's a new way for me to look at people. Very interesting. nt |
July |
Apr-20-06 07:31 AM |
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I think you nailed it quite well |
Sydnie |
Apr-19-06 04:11 PM |
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Thanks! In case you're interested post #73 above includes links to . . . |
pat_k |
Apr-19-06 04:48 PM |
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I confess I used to run on belief |
melissinha |
Apr-19-06 05:31 PM |
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Fascinating. |
drm604 |
Apr-19-06 09:35 PM |
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Perhaps. . . |
pat_k |
Apr-20-06 12:43 AM |
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But |
drm604 |
Apr-20-06 09:17 AM |
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Didn't say it wasn't possible. . . |
pat_k |
Apr-20-06 02:31 PM |
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Dear god! |
ronnykmarshall |
Apr-19-06 02:22 PM |
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if ignorance is bliss |
SeattleRob |
Apr-19-06 02:22 PM |
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They are such troublemakers |
KingFlorez |
Apr-19-06 02:23 PM |
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it's interesting that........ |
tulsakatz |
Apr-19-06 02:23 PM |
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It takes some effort to think for yourself and find the truth. It is much |
Mountainman |
Apr-19-06 02:24 PM |
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That clerk was right! Some people like to be fucking stupid |
Raksha |
Apr-19-06 02:29 PM |
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Had to listen to a truck driver on his CB radio today screaming |
B Calm |
Apr-19-06 02:37 PM |
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Kudos for you for speaking out |
CrispyQGirl |
Apr-19-06 02:44 PM |
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AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!! |
Roland99 |
Apr-19-06 03:16 PM |
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Some people like to be fucking stupid, indeed. - n/t |
porphyrian |
Apr-19-06 03:24 PM |
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Let me just say that.... |
wicket |
Apr-19-06 03:54 PM |
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Welfare people always become some kind of target by the corporate parties |
Terran1212 |
Apr-19-06 04:10 PM |
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Wow... That's Unbelievable!! |
arwalden |
Apr-19-06 04:20 PM |
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Limbaugh today must have been talking about blacks |
B Calm |
Apr-19-06 04:25 PM |
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Made my day. |
donco6 |
Apr-19-06 04:49 PM |
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Well done patriot |
proud patriot |
Apr-19-06 04:53 PM |
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She's obviously in that 30 some odd percent of Shrub supporters |
Shine |
Apr-19-06 05:03 PM |
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Yep - being stupid makes life so much easier |
RobertSeattle |
Apr-19-06 05:07 PM |
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You just found *'s next press person. |
Xenotime |
Apr-19-06 05:10 PM |
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Thank you for reminding me why I avoid my relatives. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Apr-19-06 05:27 PM |
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TOO FUNNY!!!! |
suziedemocrat |
Apr-19-06 07:02 PM |
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Total denial - denial of facts, of morality, of reality, of decency, |
grannylib |
Apr-19-06 09:17 PM |
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That Clerk Was Right-On! |
AuntiBush |
Apr-19-06 10:42 PM |
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Totally proves my theory that ignorance is an active choice. |
KitchenWitch |
Apr-19-06 10:42 PM |
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The whole "welfare cheat" thing is very much like... |
PassingFair |
Apr-19-06 11:43 PM |
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Wow |
DesertRat |
Apr-20-06 01:05 AM |
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I smoke but jeez Louise |
buddyhollysghost |
Apr-20-06 05:55 AM |
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SDGE, who allowed ENRON to jack energy costs in 2001. |
maveric |
Apr-20-06 01:38 PM |
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"Some people like to be fucking stupid". |
Mr_Spock |
Apr-20-06 01:41 PM |
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great post. n/t |
orleans |
Apr-20-06 02:35 PM |
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Don't even waste your breathe on freepers. |
cain_7777 |
Apr-20-06 02:54 PM |
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A lady who didn't like my anti-Bush bumpersticker had a meltdown today |
FLDem5 |
Apr-20-06 02:59 PM |
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I actually enjoy watching them meltdown! |
maveric |
Apr-20-06 03:03 PM |
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Sounds normal to me. |
0007 |
Apr-20-06 02:59 PM |
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They have Rednecks in San Diego? |
BiggJawn |
Apr-20-06 03:02 PM |
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East County, where I live, is full of them. |
maveric |
Apr-20-06 03:06 PM |
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Denial is the best word to decribe it. |
Klukie |
Apr-20-06 04:07 PM |
#122 |