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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 03:02 PM
Response to Reply #31
35. It's your right to have those thoughts
You might think some traditions archaic... that is your right.

And it's every woman's right to save themselves, remain a virgin until they are married. That is their right.
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  -Republicans are sick freaks: Purity Ball = girl version of NAMBLA? BlooInBloo  Apr-18-06 02:11 PM   #0 
  - Well, to be fair...  Juniperx   Apr-18-06 02:16 PM   #1 
  - That was my reaction to this as well.  bryant69   Apr-18-06 02:20 PM   #4 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-18-06 02:35 PM   #13 
  - I am childless  bryant69   Apr-18-06 02:37 PM   #16 
  - thanks! n/t  stanwyck   Apr-18-06 02:40 PM   #24 
  - lol!  Juniperx   Apr-18-06 02:41 PM   #25 
  - What the hell happened?  JVS   Apr-19-06 04:39 PM   #166 
  - Isn't that what "giving the bride away" at a wedding is all about? NT  NYCGirl   Apr-18-06 02:54 PM   #28 
     - Yep, exactly  Juniperx   Apr-18-06 03:03 PM   #37 
     - modern couples  stanwyck   Apr-18-06 03:12 PM   #47 
     - I guess I know lots of old-fashioned folks here in little old prudish  NYCGirl   Apr-18-06 03:20 PM   #53 
     - no doubt  stanwyck   Apr-18-06 03:39 PM   #67 
     - And you know, even though all of the couples I've known who've married  NYCGirl   Apr-18-06 03:48 PM   #76 
     - lol!  Juniperx   Apr-18-06 04:37 PM   #95 
     - Really a close friend of mine got married last week  DaDeacon   Apr-18-06 03:54 PM   #80 
        - I think that like any tradition, for many it has lost its meaning and is  Katherine Brengle   Apr-18-06 06:01 PM   #113 
        - Did the "giving away" include  stanwyck   Apr-18-06 08:09 PM   #141 
           - Actually, there are customs that include verification of virginity  Juniperx   Apr-19-06 12:03 PM   #158 
     - Just as much as the white bridal gown is. IOW, not really. nt  Inland   Apr-18-06 06:54 PM   #125 
  - Scary - I sort of agree with them - it gave me the creeps too.  kerry-is-my-prez   Apr-18-06 08:19 PM   #144 
  - But do they make them swear to remain  TAPat   Apr-18-06 02:20 PM   #5 
  - That gave me pause... see my edit to post above...  Juniperx   Apr-18-06 02:22 PM   #7 
  - Very Victorian, isn't it?  Juniperx   Apr-18-06 02:55 PM   #29 
  - taking choices away from people  Scout   Apr-18-06 05:59 PM   #112 
  - Is there a law against pre-marital virginity  Juniperx   Apr-18-06 04:45 PM   #99 
     - Aww...  Katherine Brengle   Apr-18-06 06:03 PM   #115 
     - You are right... it may not be healthy  Juniperx   Apr-18-06 06:31 PM   #119 
     - As I'm Sure You Were Thankful for Your Husband's Virginity  REP   Apr-19-06 02:41 AM   #150 
        - Yes, I was  Juniperx   Apr-19-06 12:07 PM   #159 
  - Cute old tradition?  stanwyck   Apr-18-06 02:26 PM   #8 
     - Jumping to the big gun right away, eh?  bryant69   Apr-18-06 02:32 PM   #12 
     - what do you expect  stanwyck   Apr-18-06 02:37 PM   #17 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-18-06 02:40 PM   #22 
           - Did you even read the article?  stanwyck   Apr-18-06 02:53 PM   #27 
              - Yes I read it  Juniperx   Apr-18-06 03:00 PM   #33 
              - Wow, you sure have something invested in this.  Lindacooks   Apr-18-06 03:05 PM   #39 
                 - I'm not going to speak for anybody else  bryant69   Apr-18-06 03:07 PM   #42 
                 - Glad you get it  Juniperx   Apr-18-06 03:15 PM   #49 
                    - Heaven forbid..  BeTheChange   Apr-18-06 05:59 PM   #111 
                    - parents don't actually have the right  tigereye   Apr-20-06 03:48 PM   #212 
                       - You are kidding, right?  Juniperx   Apr-20-06 04:47 PM   #214 
                          - no, some of them are mature enough to have sex when  tigereye   Apr-20-06 04:56 PM   #215 
                             - You nailed it  Juniperx   Apr-20-06 05:21 PM   #219 
                             - sorry  tigereye   Apr-20-06 05:38 PM   #221 
                                - I hear ya, sis...  Juniperx   Apr-20-06 05:47 PM   #223 
                             - Parents in This Country Can Certainly Insist  DoveTurnedHawk   Apr-20-06 05:59 PM   #224 
                                - all I'm saying is that you really can't FORCE it -  tigereye   Apr-21-06 10:22 AM   #230 
                 - I have no particular feelings about the subject except  Juniperx   Apr-18-06 03:13 PM   #48 
              - Daddy is making purity an issue?  BeTheChange   Apr-18-06 05:56 PM   #110 
                 - Evidently the advice to "be honest" with kids about sex when they start...  JVS   Apr-19-06 04:46 PM   #168 
     - Oh.Good.God  Juniperx   Apr-18-06 02:39 PM   #20 
     - well, where's the ceremony with the sons?  stanwyck   Apr-18-06 02:56 PM   #31 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-18-06 03:00 PM   #32 
        - Just answer  stanwyck   Apr-18-06 03:02 PM   #36 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-18-06 03:04 PM   #38 
           - just answer the questions  stanwyck   Apr-18-06 03:10 PM   #44 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-18-06 03:24 PM   #60 
                 - I regret hurting your feelings  stanwyck   Apr-18-06 03:34 PM   #62 
                    - Yeah, right.  bryant69   Apr-18-06 03:39 PM   #68 
                       - No. I stand by what I've said  stanwyck   Apr-18-06 03:43 PM   #72 
                          - What did I say that conflicts with that?  bryant69   Apr-18-06 03:46 PM   #74 
                          - Silence  bryant69   Apr-18-06 05:22 PM   #103 
                             - Indeed  Juniperx   Apr-18-06 05:50 PM   #108 
                          - I normally stay out of these  tkmorris   Apr-18-06 03:56 PM   #83 
                             - Oh, but you are speaking as a true liberal!  Juniperx   Apr-18-06 04:44 PM   #98 
                             - Oh no you didnt...  BeTheChange   Apr-18-06 06:04 PM   #116 
           - You have no history or tradition to stand on with that one  Juniperx   Apr-18-06 03:17 PM   #51 
           - the weddings I attend  stanwyck   Apr-18-06 03:22 PM   #57 
              - It's not your family, so why do you care?  MelliMel   Apr-18-06 03:35 PM   #63 
              - it's the female as chattel aspect  stanwyck   Apr-18-06 03:38 PM   #66 
              - I do not view my daughter as chattel  MelliMel   Apr-18-06 03:42 PM   #71 
                 - I'm not offended by that.  stanwyck   Apr-18-06 03:49 PM   #77 
                    - My children do not have a sexual life.  MelliMel   Apr-18-06 03:51 PM   #79 
                    - Actually, they do  stanwyck   Apr-18-06 07:58 PM   #134 
                    - No one said sex is dirty or shameful.  MelliMel   Apr-19-06 12:53 AM   #148 
                    - All the more reason to catch them young  Juniperx   Apr-19-06 03:59 PM   #163 
                    - You speak out of both sides of your mouth...  Juniperx   Apr-20-06 11:04 AM   #206 
                    - What will you do if/when...  PassingFair   Apr-18-06 08:06 PM   #139 
                       - As I said in another post  MelliMel   Apr-19-06 12:54 AM   #149 
                    - So, I suppose you think children should just be allowed to run wild?  Juniperx   Apr-18-06 06:01 PM   #114 
                       - You either didn't read the article, or you're unable  stanwyck   Apr-18-06 08:03 PM   #138 
                          - A dad is a parent. EQUAL and different from the mother.  loudsue   Apr-19-06 07:26 AM   #154 
                          - Great post!  Juniperx   Apr-19-06 12:13 PM   #160 
                          - I read it and I understand  Juniperx   Apr-19-06 11:51 AM   #157 
              - There is something to be said for tradition  Juniperx   Apr-18-06 04:48 PM   #100 
                 - Exactly. :-)  MelliMel   Apr-18-06 05:33 PM   #104 
                    - And they would be the first to scream foul  Juniperx   Apr-18-06 05:42 PM   #106 
              - Yes, some do  Juniperx   Apr-18-06 04:30 PM   #92 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-18-06 03:59 PM   #86 
           - And people wonder why their choices are being taken away  Juniperx   Apr-18-06 05:48 PM   #107 
           - Nobody gives a shit about boys and their virginity.  Inland   Apr-18-06 06:50 PM   #123 
        - It's your right to have those thoughts  Juniperx   Apr-18-06 03:02 PM   #35 
        - And the sons?  stanwyck   Apr-18-06 03:07 PM   #43 
           - Daddy, as a parent  Juniperx   Apr-18-06 03:11 PM   #45 
           - Any?  stanwyck   Apr-18-06 03:18 PM   #52 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-18-06 03:20 PM   #54 
           - just answer the questions  stanwyck   Apr-18-06 03:23 PM   #59 
              - Enough hyperbole? LOL.  MelliMel   Apr-18-06 03:40 PM   #69 
              - Here you go  Juniperx   Apr-18-06 04:36 PM   #94 
           - Isn't it a bit of a stretch...  Bornaginhooligan   Apr-18-06 03:21 PM   #56 
           - Honestly, I would think this was cool IF the parent attending was Mommy--  Katherine Brengle   Apr-18-06 06:13 PM   #117 
           - There are purity balls for sons  Nicole   Apr-18-06 06:24 PM   #118 
              - Blue, right? nt  Inland   Apr-18-06 07:02 PM   #128 
              - Oh shit! There goes that argument!  JVS   Apr-19-06 04:48 PM   #169 
        - Look, people can do whatever they want as long as nobody gets hurt  rockymountaindem   Apr-18-06 03:45 PM   #73 
     - Discussing your sex life with Dad?  OzarkDem   Apr-20-06 05:10 PM   #217 
  - That is just... creepy. Very, very creepy. n/t  TechBear_Seattle   Apr-18-06 02:16 PM   #2 
  - That's the impression I was left with also.  Left Is Write   Apr-18-06 03:47 PM   #75 
  - I'm speechless....  TAPat   Apr-18-06 02:19 PM   #3 
  - The really funny thing abut it are those that do take the oaths  mrcheerful   Apr-18-06 02:22 PM   #6 
  - Kids with Virginity oaths wait longer before their first sexual experience  shoelace414   Apr-18-06 02:28 PM   #10 
  - And they get pregnant  stanwyck   Apr-18-06 02:31 PM   #11 
  - My dad used a baseball bat  MuseRider   Apr-18-06 02:27 PM   #9 
  - The only thing I don't like about it is that it's based on the concept of  kitkat65   Apr-18-06 02:35 PM   #14 
  - Hey, we've got takers  stanwyck   Apr-18-06 02:38 PM   #19 
  - It's none of your business  Juniperx   Apr-18-06 02:52 PM   #26 
     - This isn't about "right to choose"  stanwyck   Apr-18-06 03:00 PM   #34 
        - Now you are scraping the bottom of the barrel  Juniperx   Apr-18-06 03:07 PM   #41 
           - OK. I give up  stanwyck   Apr-18-06 03:21 PM   #55 
              - And that is your right  Juniperx   Apr-18-06 03:23 PM   #58 
  - ROFL! But, um, that's ALL there is to it!  BlooInBloo   Apr-18-06 02:39 PM   #21 
  - Ewwwwww......  novalib   Apr-18-06 02:37 PM   #15 
  - Those "slimy old men" are the girls' fathers  NoPasaran   Apr-18-06 03:27 PM   #61 
     - Coaching your daughter's soccer team  stanwyck   Apr-18-06 03:36 PM   #64 
        - Virginity, while (seemingly) uncommon, shouldn't rate as "bizarre"  NoPasaran   Apr-18-06 04:10 PM   #89 
           - Good call! n/t  Juniperx   Apr-18-06 04:49 PM   #101 
           - You missed the point  stanwyck   Apr-18-06 07:45 PM   #132 
              - Agree  OzarkDem   Apr-20-06 05:06 PM   #216 
  - Traffic in women...this is just "quality control" for the traffic in women  alcibiades_mystery   Apr-18-06 02:38 PM   #18 
  - Can you say . . .  enid602   Apr-18-06 02:40 PM   #23 
  - dude! i was so thinking that when i watched  MsTryska   Apr-18-06 03:51 PM   #78 
  - This is sick indeed  Taverner   Apr-18-06 02:56 PM   #30 
  - extremely creepy to me  proud patriot   Apr-18-06 03:07 PM   #40 
  - I don't have any right to judge these peoples beliefs....  ShaneGR   Apr-18-06 03:11 PM   #46 
  - It's the JUNIOR ANTI-SEX LEAGUE!  The Stranger   Apr-18-06 03:16 PM   #50 
  - and one step away from HandMaid's Tale....nt  MsTryska   Apr-18-06 03:57 PM   #84 
  - I actually saw soem footage from this ball on PBS's NOW  MsTryska   Apr-18-06 03:37 PM   #65 
  - strange vibe indeed  stanwyck   Apr-18-06 03:40 PM   #70 
     - well - i don't know that they find it appealing exactly...  MsTryska   Apr-18-06 03:55 PM   #81 
        - That NOW piece made my skin crawl!  tatertop   Apr-18-06 04:04 PM   #87 
           - I'm so glad I'm not the only one!  MsTryska   Apr-18-06 04:14 PM   #90 
              - A combination of misogyny, incest, and a morbid religious jingoism  tatertop   Apr-18-06 10:02 PM   #145 
  - Not the kind of dance I remember. There's no booze  alfredo   Apr-18-06 03:56 PM   #82 
  - This isn't as bad as the "other" purity ceremonies  jmowreader   Apr-18-06 03:59 PM   #85 
  - I actually have less of a problem with that.  MsTryska   Apr-18-06 04:17 PM   #91 
     - The 'shanghai' factor is what disturbs me  jmowreader   Apr-19-06 09:20 PM   #194 
  - I personally don't agree with this...  Avalon Sparks   Apr-18-06 04:05 PM   #88 
  - I have a photo for this supercreepy display -  HughBeaumont   Apr-18-06 07:45 PM   #131 
  - Something about that isn't quite right.  laundry_queen   Apr-18-06 04:35 PM   #93 
  - I had the same initial reaction  kevinbgoode   Apr-18-06 04:39 PM   #96 
  - Ugh!  baby_mouse   Apr-18-06 04:39 PM   #97 
  - It is highly unethical, if not immoral, to force girls this age into  Zorra   Apr-18-06 05:00 PM   #102 
  - One would hope that Daddy Dearest doesn't throw it back in her face  Inland   Apr-18-06 07:01 PM   #127 
  - Why are they even thinking about "purity" at seven??  SmokingJacket   Apr-18-06 05:38 PM   #105 
  - I have no problem with the girls choosing to remain virgin  geniph   Apr-18-06 05:54 PM   #109 
  - well put geniph  WoodrowFan   Apr-18-06 07:21 PM   #130 
     - You, Geniph and SmokingJacket have totally  MsTryska   Apr-19-06 08:37 AM   #156 
  - The CREEPY part obviously is the EMPHASIS on the DAUGHTER'S  WinkyDink   Apr-18-06 06:37 PM   #120 
  - the pledges here: o, skin crawling creepy!  Jigarotta   Apr-18-06 06:47 PM   #121 
  - Welcome to the brave new world of the RW fundies. Next it will be selling  mrcheerful   Apr-18-06 06:53 PM   #124 
  - some here are defending this kind of thing...  Jigarotta   Apr-18-06 07:59 PM   #135 
  - God will reward them with (most likely) an unsuitable sexual match.  progressivebydesign   Apr-18-06 08:03 PM   #137 
  - They choose to "cover" their daughters? Don't they know this definition  highplainsdem   Apr-20-06 03:21 PM   #211 
  - I'm kinda creeped out by the public ceremony of it.  Inland   Apr-18-06 06:48 PM   #122 
  - Anyone remember the "Motherboy" episode of Arrested Development?  EOO   Apr-18-06 06:56 PM   #126 
  - They're just kids! Ewwww!  Rex   Apr-18-06 07:05 PM   #129 
  - Great. Virginity = high priority; silver-ring-thing = high priority;  Ilsa   Apr-18-06 07:50 PM   #133 
  - Fucking Weird  stepnw1f   Apr-18-06 07:59 PM   #136 
  - And statistics prove...  sendero   Apr-18-06 08:07 PM   #140 
  - Thank you!  stanwyck   Apr-18-06 08:17 PM   #143 
     - This must have been Freak Out With Frank Zappa Day  tatertop   Apr-18-06 10:07 PM   #146 
     - I find it very creepy too, inappropriate for such young girls.  DemExpat   Apr-19-06 03:25 AM   #151 
     - I couldn't believe some of the flack you got here.  Jigarotta   Apr-19-06 04:37 PM   #165 
        - The American Taliban at work  stanwyck   Apr-19-06 05:43 PM   #176 
           - Daddies looking after your cherry, lil girl...  Jigarotta   Apr-19-06 05:51 PM   #178 
              - These fathers are doing such a disservice  stanwyck   Apr-19-06 06:02 PM   #180 
                 - I'm sorry you were never close enough to talk to your daddy...  Juniperx   Apr-19-06 08:10 PM   #187 
                    - I think you've confused liberalism  stanwyck   Apr-19-06 09:05 PM   #191 
                    - You can't pay attention to save your life, can you?  Juniperx   Apr-20-06 10:55 AM   #204 
                    - what you said and what the OP is about, are light years away...  Jigarotta   Apr-19-06 10:14 PM   #197 
                       - If you think I'm wrong, can you explain?  Juniperx   Apr-20-06 11:00 AM   #205 
                          - some things, no matter how 'faithful' are just wrong.  Jigarotta   Apr-20-06 12:03 PM   #208 
                             - You didn't address my question whatsoever  Juniperx   Apr-20-06 12:23 PM   #209 
  - As a parent of a teen girl, I can't imagine her discussing that..  progressivebydesign   Apr-18-06 08:12 PM   #142 
  - I'm not questioning your right to comment on this. I'm disagreeing.  Bucky   Apr-19-06 05:41 PM   #175 
  - It's simple (and sick)...women = chattel  mitchum   Apr-18-06 10:17 PM   #147 
  - EW EW EW EW FREAKING EWWWWW!!  HughBeaumont   Apr-19-06 06:47 AM   #152 
  - Uck.  kineneb   Apr-19-06 04:25 PM   #164 
  - The dress? or the Guy? :-)  paparush   Apr-19-06 08:06 PM   #185 
     - More the guy's creepy leer and bad shiny suit.  HughBeaumont   Apr-19-06 08:56 PM   #189 
  - And tell me THIS shit isn't creeptacular:  HughBeaumont   Apr-19-06 06:56 AM   #153 
  - You are so off base here.  Bucky   Apr-19-06 05:36 PM   #173 
     - SHE CAN'T BE ANY MORE THAN SEVEN!!!!  HughBeaumont   Apr-19-06 08:08 PM   #186 
     - Baloney  OzarkDem   Apr-20-06 08:51 PM   #229 
  - Very creepy  foreverdem   Apr-19-06 07:55 AM   #155 
  - They are counseled...  Juniperx   Apr-19-06 12:17 PM   #161 
  - Sorry... but my father's rights over MY body ended when he stopped  politicat   Apr-19-06 12:33 PM   #162 
  - Last time I checked Nambla wasn't about chastity pledges  JVS   Apr-19-06 04:41 PM   #167 
  - These said that 80% of the girls have sex within 18 mths.  kerry-is-my-prez   Apr-19-06 05:17 PM   #170 
  - I totally disagree. I think it's a great message to girls  Bucky   Apr-19-06 05:30 PM   #171 
  - Again. Read the article. This dance-date IS  stanwyck   Apr-19-06 05:37 PM   #174 
     - I'll thank you not to misrepresent me and tell me what I mean  Bucky   Apr-19-06 05:46 PM   #177 
        - Then why did you  stanwyck   Apr-19-06 05:59 PM   #179 
  - I would have been grossed out if my dad had asked me  gollygee   Apr-19-06 05:32 PM   #172 
  - yeah, one thing I don't want my dad knowing about - my sex life.  Iris   Apr-19-06 10:26 PM   #200 
  - And, as we can see, it's not just the Republicans  stanwyck   Apr-19-06 06:27 PM   #181 
  - This Ceremony Is NOT for Me, and It IS a Bit Creepy  DoveTurnedHawk   Apr-19-06 07:26 PM   #183 
  - Fortunately  stanwyck   Apr-19-06 09:22 PM   #195 
     - You're About the Only One Labeling Them Child Molesters  DoveTurnedHawk   Apr-19-06 11:33 PM   #201 
  - Who died and made you the culture police anyway?  Juniperx   Apr-19-06 08:03 PM   #184 
  - You accept all traditions, then?  stanwyck   Apr-19-06 09:16 PM   #193 
     - More Straw Men  DoveTurnedHawk   Apr-19-06 11:42 PM   #202 
     - Am I wrong, DoveTurnedHawk?  Juniperx   Apr-20-06 11:13 AM   #207 
        - I Know What You Mean  DoveTurnedHawk   Apr-20-06 06:03 PM   #225 
           - Thanks  Juniperx   Apr-20-06 06:15 PM   #227 
     - You haven't been paying attention at all... no wonder you are confused  Juniperx   Apr-20-06 10:48 AM   #203 
  - I'm a male parent of a ten year old boy, and I'm with you 100%  HughBeaumont   Apr-19-06 08:49 PM   #188 
     - Hugh. My hero  stanwyck   Apr-19-06 09:07 PM   #192 
     - Thank you. I think it's about  HughBeaumont   Apr-19-06 10:08 PM   #196 
     - In their minds, they being the males in power & the women/girls they've  Tari   Apr-20-06 04:14 PM   #213 
  - What IS this?  baby_mouse   Apr-19-06 06:51 PM   #182 
  - Here's a choice photo of a "couple" in NO DANGER of impurity.  NoodleyAppendage   Apr-19-06 09:02 PM   #190 
  - yah, Yikes, what a nerd looking guy. nt  Jigarotta   Apr-19-06 10:22 PM   #198 
  - Didn't bolo ties go out of business with Chess King?  HughBeaumont   Apr-19-06 10:25 PM   #199 
  - Pure opinion...  Juniperx   Apr-20-06 02:03 PM   #210 
     - this thread is quite nauseating to me, literally nauseating  newspeak   Apr-20-06 05:11 PM   #218 
        - I'm so sorry  Juniperx   Apr-20-06 05:31 PM   #220 
           - it is the "purity" thing  newspeak   Apr-20-06 05:43 PM   #222 
              - Awful!  Juniperx   Apr-20-06 06:11 PM   #226 
  - Promise Breakers  phrenzy   Apr-20-06 07:26 PM   #228 
 

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