Duncan Grant
(1000+ posts)
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Tue Apr-11-06 10:01 PM
Response to Reply #75 |
| 78. Not accepting your premise about the Republicans. |
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I'm not afraid of the Republicans anymore.
As I mentioned up-thread, my loyalty to the Democratic party is no longer going to be some altruistic exercise - one in which everyone gains at my expense.
I would caution Democrats not to take GLBT votes for granted. To dismiss us as narcissists would be the final arrogance of a party who wants our money and votes but offers nothing except the feable claim that they're better than the Republicans.
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 What good will your issues do you if we slide into military dictatorship? |
pnwmom |
Apr-10-06 05:02 PM |
#0 |
 
It's called Internal Conflict |
atreides1 |
Apr-10-06 05:11 PM |
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The neocons are NOT solidifying a lock on government... |
HereSince1628 |
Apr-10-06 05:15 PM |
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If the trend toward fraudulent elections isn't stopped, no future election |
pnwmom |
Apr-10-06 05:28 PM |
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But that has NOTHING to do with NeoCons. |
HereSince1628 |
Apr-10-06 05:37 PM |
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They're all working together, just as Delay worked with the Texas |
pnwmom |
Apr-10-06 05:48 PM |
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Do you honestly believe that the massive election fraud of 2000,.... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Apr-11-06 02:14 PM |
#49 |
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Your |
spag68 |
Apr-10-06 05:20 PM |
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No, Dems won't be voting for Repubs., but many here talk about not |
pnwmom |
Apr-10-06 05:24 PM |
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Voting |
spag68 |
Apr-10-06 05:29 PM |
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That's the ticket! |
RufusEarl |
Apr-10-06 05:20 PM |
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What good is a vote, |
MadHound |
Apr-10-06 05:39 PM |
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You're spouting the Nader line. We wouldn't be in Iraq right now, if |
pnwmom |
Apr-10-06 05:42 PM |
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Nader |
spag68 |
Apr-10-06 05:53 PM |
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Nader |
sui generis |
Apr-10-06 05:58 PM |
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LOL, you read a lot into a post that isn't there friend |
MadHound |
Apr-10-06 05:59 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Apr-10-06 06:07 PM |
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LOL, that's a good one friend |
MadHound |
Apr-11-06 10:48 AM |
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Well Argued. |
Xipe Totec |
Apr-11-06 09:46 PM |
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the principle of canceled votes |
sui generis |
Apr-10-06 05:43 PM |
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Committee chairmanships are important, and you get them by having |
pnwmom |
Apr-10-06 05:50 PM |
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well in practice |
sui generis |
Apr-10-06 05:56 PM |
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why whatever are you talking about? |
sui generis |
Apr-10-06 05:41 PM |
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Every election has seemed this urgent? I'm fifty, and I have never |
pnwmom |
Apr-10-06 05:47 PM |
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fifty year old |
spag68 |
Apr-10-06 05:51 PM |
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I agree. Bush is much scarier than Nixon. Who would have thought we'd |
pnwmom |
Apr-10-06 06:09 PM |
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my family comes first |
sui generis |
Apr-10-06 05:54 PM |
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I'm not picking on gay issues here. |
pnwmom |
Apr-10-06 06:19 PM |
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We can't fix the voting problem UNTIL |
serryjw |
Apr-10-06 05:59 PM |
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I agree, Clark looks like a good candidate. I don't know who I'll work |
pnwmom |
Apr-10-06 06:21 PM |
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And no, sui generis, I wasn't talking about gay issues specifically. |
pnwmom |
Apr-10-06 06:00 PM |
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well agreed for sure on voting machines |
sui generis |
Apr-10-06 06:10 PM |
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I didn't mean to diminish your concerns by using the phrase |
pnwmom |
Apr-10-06 06:31 PM |
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It's called |
troubleinwinter |
Apr-10-06 06:12 PM |
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browbeating |
sui generis |
Apr-10-06 06:48 PM |
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Does this mean you are excluding "nearly every single front running |
pnwmom |
Apr-10-06 07:24 PM |
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self deleted |
sui generis |
Apr-11-06 10:20 AM |
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okay, less grumpy attempt |
sui generis |
Apr-11-06 10:39 AM |
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Why? |
pnwmom |
Apr-11-06 01:35 PM |
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I will spell it out for you now. |
sui generis |
Apr-11-06 01:44 PM |
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You don't speak for 15% of Dems. You speak only for yourself. |
pnwmom |
Apr-11-06 01:50 PM |
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you're a bit wrong there |
sui generis |
Apr-11-06 01:54 PM |
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First, could you tell me which Democratic candidates have |
pnwmom |
Apr-11-06 02:00 PM |
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now you're playing semantics |
sui generis |
Apr-11-06 02:11 PM |
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I guess our main difference is that I believe that incremental progress |
pnwmom |
Apr-11-06 02:37 PM |
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Never mind. I see that I already answered you, in plain enough English, |
pnwmom |
Apr-11-06 02:16 PM |
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and very carefully avoided the bomb in #48 |
sui generis |
Apr-11-06 02:34 PM |
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I talk to children of gays all the time. I came here to find some |
pnwmom |
Apr-11-06 02:38 PM |
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sorry my bad - I remember the post now |
sui generis |
Apr-11-06 02:50 PM |
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I agree with you 99%. It's that last little bit that sticks in my craw. |
pnwmom |
Apr-11-06 02:59 PM |
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more than one generation! |
sui generis |
Apr-11-06 04:08 PM |
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Okay, I'm getting the picture. Grandkids. Geez. |
pnwmom |
Apr-11-06 05:01 PM |
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Maybe you already know this site. It's a good one. |
pnwmom |
Apr-11-06 03:06 PM |
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Two things: |
troubleinwinter |
Apr-10-06 07:35 PM |
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my apologies - I figured some of this out on the way home |
sui generis |
Apr-11-06 10:24 AM |
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I'm with Sui Generis. |
readmoreoften |
Apr-11-06 04:26 PM |
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You can't make deals with terrorists. But if they're Repubs, you CAN |
pnwmom |
Apr-11-06 05:05 PM |
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not when the other candidate is a collaborator. |
readmoreoften |
Apr-11-06 06:50 PM |
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Then we can probably agree that fixing the elections should be top |
pnwmom |
Apr-11-06 07:50 PM |
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I'm with Sui Generis. |
readmoreoften |
Apr-11-06 04:26 PM |
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Perfectly stated, sui generis. I'm with you, too. |
94114_San_Francisco |
Apr-11-06 06:30 PM |
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We haven't already slid into the military/industrial/corporate control,... |
Just Me |
Apr-10-06 05:46 PM |
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military coup |
enid602 |
Apr-11-06 10:28 AM |
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I don't think there's a chance for a military dictatorship under |
Cleita |
Apr-11-06 01:39 PM |
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Well, not everything else. Climate change could even make a dictatorship |
Lorien |
Apr-11-06 01:40 PM |
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They'll make us feel better about getting shot? |
porphyrian |
Apr-11-06 02:02 PM |
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Why should I sacrifice my fundamental civil rights for your peace of mind? |
94114_San_Francisco |
Apr-11-06 05:55 PM |
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Maybe because ALL of our civil rights are at issue here, not just |
pnwmom |
Apr-11-06 07:54 PM |
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So let me get this straight. You're asking me to care about your rights - |
94114_San_Francisco |
Apr-11-06 09:00 PM |
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You don't get it. I'm talking about all our rights. Democracy is |
pnwmom |
Apr-11-06 09:15 PM |
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I've known this for years. I absolutely "get it". |
94114_San_Francisco |
Apr-11-06 09:35 PM |
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The Dems will probably help it become that if we don't fight them |
Terran1212 |
Apr-11-06 06:31 PM |
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Why are you a DU'er if you feel "the Dems" have to be fought? |
pnwmom |
Apr-11-06 07:57 PM |
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Because that's what democracy is all about |
Terran1212 |
Apr-11-06 08:34 PM |
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Nothing matters except my narcissistic one issue! |
BlooInBloo |
Apr-11-06 07:58 PM |
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Please don't trivialize those who don't see the world as you do. |
94114_San_Francisco |
Apr-11-06 09:16 PM |
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Hate to tell ya this, but they don't need ME to trivialize them.... |
BlooInBloo |
Apr-11-06 09:21 PM |
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Not accepting your premise about the Republicans. |
94114_San_Francisco |
Apr-11-06 10:01 PM |
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(shrug) It's your vote... |
BlooInBloo |
Apr-11-06 10:15 PM |
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So far, that's how it's played out for GLBT people with the Democrats.(nt) |
94114_San_Francisco |
Apr-11-06 10:19 PM |
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Riiiiight..... depressing the Democratic vote doesn't help repubs... |
BlooInBloo |
Apr-11-06 10:37 PM |
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What sack of shit are you referring to? |
94114_San_Francisco |
Apr-11-06 10:58 PM |
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if the democratic vote wants us, then address us |
sui generis |
Apr-12-06 09:28 AM |
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that's the stupidest argument I hear repeated. |
sui generis |
Apr-12-06 09:32 AM |
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first of of all, civil and legal rights are NOT the same thing |
sui generis |
Apr-12-06 09:23 AM |
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And let's not forget the Supreme Court. |
DanCa |
Apr-11-06 09:06 PM |
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And what good does it do if the Democrats we vote for do nothing |
Generator |
Apr-11-06 10:09 PM |
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The Neocons have been in government for a long time |
magellan |
Apr-12-06 10:46 AM |
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It was nice while it lasted |
pnwmom |
Apr-12-06 05:25 PM |
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