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Response to Reply #31
98. Actually, Mexico outlawed slavery 40 years before the US did.
Which was part of why Texas rebelled and why we fought a war with Mexico - to preserve our god-given right to own slaves in Mexican territory.
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  -Why the Mexican Flag? question everything  Apr-01-06 05:51 PM   #0 
  - Because they're Mexican, maybe?  Redstone   Apr-01-06 05:52 PM   #1 
  - . . .  sfexpat2000   Apr-01-06 05:55 PM   #4 
  - Beat me up if you want to, but you MUST admit...  Redstone   Apr-01-06 05:57 PM   #6 
  - If forced, I will. lol  sfexpat2000   Apr-01-06 06:22 PM   #25 
  - these are worse than the flags  corporate_mike   Apr-02-06 01:41 AM   #175 
     - Thank you for posting.  question everything   Apr-02-06 10:56 PM   #185 
     - Some "really bigoted member of Congress" already has.  countryjake   Apr-02-06 11:10 PM   #186 
     - Here are some signs I'd rather not see.  Kerrytravelers   Apr-02-06 11:54 PM   #196 
     - one word...Kosovo.  DetroitProle   Apr-03-06 12:15 AM   #201 
        - Excellent observation  question everything   Apr-06-06 01:55 PM   #231 
  - I had the impression they were US citizens.  mondo joe   Apr-01-06 06:16 PM   #16 
  - Or, at least, wanted to be ones (nt)  question everything   Apr-01-06 06:18 PM   #18 
  - There are many people marching. The vast majority citizens  sfexpat2000   Apr-01-06 06:23 PM   #26 
  - So they can never touch a Mexican flag?  proud2Blib   Apr-01-06 08:36 PM   #112 
     - Not while protesting immigration law  question everything   Apr-01-06 08:43 PM   #119 
  - If they are Mexicans, why do they want to stay in this country?  question everything   Apr-01-06 06:17 PM   #17 
  - Mexican flags  SeaBob   Apr-01-06 07:27 PM   #78 
  - This is offensive to the so many refugees who came here, escaping  question everything   Apr-01-06 07:54 PM   #92 
  - THAN THEY NEED TO STAY AND FIGHT  TrueAmerican   Apr-01-06 08:59 PM   #132 
  - picture  corporate_mike   Apr-01-06 08:07 PM   #99 
  - flag waving  SeaBob   Apr-01-06 07:24 PM   #77 
  - I do believe your statement is one of the wisest statements  merh   Apr-01-06 10:02 PM   #167 
  - Are You Kidding? She Looks To Be 15 Dude. Seriously, That's A Bit Sick.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Apr-01-06 08:01 PM   #95 
  - A number of us are waiting for a valid explanation of this strange  acmavm   Apr-01-06 05:53 PM   #2 
  - They're our next-door neighbors, for Chrissake.  Redstone   Apr-01-06 06:01 PM   #9 
  - How about my neighbor not sneaking in without permission?  mondo joe   Apr-01-06 06:21 PM   #24 
     - I f you didn't set his home on fire, he might not need to.  sfexpat2000   Apr-01-06 06:32 PM   #37 
        - Mexico is on fire? Well that's different.  mondo joe   Apr-01-06 06:34 PM   #41 
        - I wholeheartedly agree. n/t  sfexpat2000   Apr-01-06 06:39 PM   #48 
        - Then you know what you need to do: open the borders to your home.  mondo joe   Apr-01-06 06:45 PM   #53 
           - I've lived that way for years. We call it California. n/t  sfexpat2000   Apr-01-06 09:45 PM   #161 
              - How many people live in your home? How do you let people  mondo joe   Apr-02-06 09:47 AM   #181 
        - Not only is Mexico on fire, but *you* set that fire.  QC   Apr-01-06 06:40 PM   #52 
        - Does any nation outside of Latin America, then, get immig. rights to US?  Inland   Apr-01-06 08:12 PM   #104 
  - It would be one thing if they're burning the American flag  RagingInMiami   Apr-01-06 06:24 PM   #27 
     - It is, as you say THE UNITED STATES. If they want to wave a flag  acmavm   Apr-01-06 06:35 PM   #43 
     - I have seen both Mexican and American flags at those demonstrations  RagingInMiami   Apr-01-06 06:52 PM   #58 
        - Apparently you didn't read what I said. I acknowledged the fact that  acmavm   Apr-01-06 07:20 PM   #72 
           - Sadly, this seems to be the trend here  question everything   Apr-01-06 08:00 PM   #94 
     - Of course offensive speech falls under the First Amendment.  mondo joe   Apr-01-06 06:38 PM   #45 
     - So you're offended by the Mexican flag waving?  RagingInMiami   Apr-01-06 06:55 PM   #61 
        - Nope. I think it's a poor choic of messaging for their cause.  mondo joe   Apr-01-06 06:59 PM   #63 
     - I'm not at all offended by waving the mexican flag  jaredh   Apr-01-06 06:47 PM   #55 
     - Me too!  proud2Blib   Apr-01-06 08:38 PM   #114 
  - For an oppressed people, this is an expression of love  sfexpat2000   Apr-01-06 05:53 PM   #3 
  - Well, that's what I MEANT to say upthread; I just got distracted.  Redstone   Apr-01-06 05:58 PM   #7 
  - I bet you're sorry.  sfexpat2000   Apr-01-06 06:20 PM   #22 
     - Nah.  Redstone   Apr-01-06 06:24 PM   #28 
  - Are they expressing their love for their country?  Disturbed   Apr-01-06 06:02 PM   #10 
  - In Mexican culture, the line between family, community and country  sfexpat2000   Apr-01-06 06:20 PM   #21 
  - Look at the cars driven by Mexican-Americans  Lefty48197   Apr-01-06 09:27 PM   #151 
  - It's solidarity.  countryjake   Apr-01-06 10:44 PM   #170 
  - "It is not an attempt at hostile takeover."  DeaconBlues   Apr-01-06 06:05 PM   #13 
     - I'd consider the source. This is the same paper that told you  sfexpat2000   Apr-01-06 06:18 PM   # 
     - what has the source got to do with it?  DeaconBlues   Apr-01-06 07:41 PM   #84 
        - LOL!  SeveneightyWhoa   Apr-02-06 01:17 AM   #173 
     - EXCUSE ME N.Y. NOT! THAT WAS FROM LA LAST WEEKEND!  sce56   Apr-01-06 06:31 PM   #34 
     - I stand corrected  DeaconBlues   Apr-01-06 07:45 PM   #85 
     - If you would have read the post I made you would have seen I said LA  sce56   Apr-01-06 09:04 PM   #135 
        - This one is funny!  Kerrytravelers   Apr-03-06 12:07 AM   #199 
        - rale!  Swamp Rat   Apr-03-06 12:40 AM   #205 
           - I LOVE those! OMG!  Kerrytravelers   Apr-03-06 12:42 AM   #206 
              - I wish I could take credit for the first one!  Swamp Rat   Apr-03-06 12:54 AM   #209 
                 - You have plenty of great ones you can take credit for!  Kerrytravelers   Apr-03-06 01:24 AM   #211 
     - That's a fair mix of flags.  Inland   Apr-01-06 07:45 PM   #86 
     - NY, LA  RagingInMiami   Apr-01-06 08:49 PM   #125 
     - No, its not the same at all  DeaconBlues   Apr-01-06 09:29 PM   #152 
        - Too bad you don't have the capacity  RagingInMiami   Apr-01-06 09:57 PM   #166 
     - How the hell do they get everyone to wear white?  Cobalt Violet   Apr-01-06 09:35 PM   #156 
     - It's possible  Aimah   Apr-01-06 06:39 PM   #49 
     - my concern was with the sign that dominates the picture  DeaconBlues   Apr-01-06 07:53 PM   #89 
     - Look at all the American flags  RagingInMiami   Apr-01-06 07:00 PM   #64 
     - I think some on this thread are not interested in the fact that there's a  Mayberry Machiavelli   Apr-01-06 08:39 PM   #115 
     - The majority of Mexicans are not hispanic, they are indiginous  NCevilDUer   Apr-01-06 07:52 PM   #88 
     - Personally, I get a BIG kick out of White people from TX, AZ, NM, or CA  Lefty48197   Apr-01-06 09:29 PM   #153 
     - Shall we, then, move the border  question everything   Apr-02-06 11:14 PM   #188 
     - Some Latinos are indigenous.  laheina   Apr-03-06 03:29 AM   #219 
  - Because they're proud of their heritage and don't think they  babylonsister   Apr-01-06 05:57 PM   #5 
  - No one is penalizing them for their heritage  question everything   Apr-01-06 06:21 PM   #23 
     - The U.S. USED to be a melting pot. I'm part Irish; my mom  babylonsister   Apr-01-06 06:40 PM   #51 
        - Don't confuse your heritage with the flag of a foreign nation.  mondo joe   Apr-01-06 06:50 PM   #56 
        - Baloney. The Mexicans can fly their flag proudly; that's their  babylonsister   Apr-01-06 09:21 PM   #144 
        - Allowed only on St. Patrick's Day  RagingInMiami   Apr-01-06 07:01 PM   #65 
        - s-l-o-w-l-y: yes, all of us are proud of our heritage  question everything   Apr-01-06 07:51 PM   #87 
        - Well said, Question Everything!  Zookeeper   Apr-03-06 02:26 AM   #215 
           - Thank you for a well reasoned post  question everything   Apr-06-06 02:01 PM   #232 
        - Hotdogs came from Germany  Ignacio Upton   Apr-01-06 08:40 PM   #116 
        - I knew there would be one in the crowd after I posted that;  babylonsister   Apr-01-06 09:22 PM   #145 
           - Enshuldigung!  Swamp Rat   Apr-03-06 12:45 AM   #207 
        - Hey Do you fly the Flag of Erin? Erin Go Braugh?  Kerrytravelers   Apr-03-06 12:06 AM   #198 
  - flags  blogslut   Apr-01-06 06:01 PM   #8 
  - Mexico is not Ireland...  VirtualChicano   Apr-01-06 06:02 PM   #11 
  - There you go, bringing up that whole free speech thing.  sfexpat2000   Apr-01-06 06:25 PM   #29 
  - Please don't flame, just explain.  VirtualChicano   Apr-01-06 06:32 PM   #36 
  - Not flaming, sorry. Just trying to lighten the conversation.  sfexpat2000   Apr-01-06 06:34 PM   #40 
     - yup  VirtualChicano   Apr-01-06 06:40 PM   #50 
  - The best thing about freedom of speech...  Llewlladdwr   Apr-02-06 11:38 PM   #192 
     - You support making illegals criminals?  Kerrytravelers   Apr-03-06 12:11 AM   #200 
        - Well actually, illegals are by definition criminals, aren't they?  mondo joe   Apr-03-06 12:17 AM   #202 
        - Immigration is certainly an issue. But I agree with you, I do not  Kerrytravelers   Apr-03-06 01:25 AM   #212 
        - Yes, I do.  Llewlladdwr   Apr-03-06 12:24 AM   #204 
           - Since I don't know you, I don't know your story.  Kerrytravelers   Apr-03-06 01:28 AM   #213 
  - Bullshit!  mycritters2   Apr-01-06 07:15 PM   #71 
  - That's because 60%  VirtualChicano   Apr-01-06 08:31 PM   #107 
     - By "stolen" you might mean "lost in war".  mondo joe   Apr-01-06 08:51 PM   #127 
        - No, I mean STOLEN  VirtualChicano   Apr-01-06 09:07 PM   #137 
           - Well you can certainly contribute to making it right by giving your  mondo joe   Apr-01-06 09:14 PM   #142 
  - Shall we, than give this country, or at least California, Texas and  question everything   Apr-01-06 08:09 PM   #102 
     - This is a RACIST statement  VirtualChicano   Apr-01-06 08:36 PM   #113 
     - What's racist about it? Nothing.  mondo joe   Apr-01-06 08:44 PM   #121 
     - put your moccasins where your fingers are and move there  VirtualChicano   Apr-01-06 08:54 PM   #128 
     - I am asking you in response to this comment by you:  question everything   Apr-01-06 08:59 PM   #131 
        - Huh?  VirtualChicano   Apr-01-06 09:12 PM   #140 
     - "Put your moccasins where your fingers are..." HUH?  babylonsister   Apr-01-06 09:25 PM   #148 
        - That was his comment to me  VirtualChicano   Apr-01-06 10:24 PM   #169 
  - Let me guess.  Cleita   Apr-01-06 06:05 PM   #12 
  - If I lived in a country that excluded me from its society  question everything   Apr-01-06 06:15 PM   #15 
  - Maybe these people were affirming their identity,  sfexpat2000   Apr-01-06 06:26 PM   #30 
  - What is their identity? Do they want to be US citizens?  question everything   Apr-01-06 06:34 PM   #39 
  - This is very interesting because I have no wish to attack anyone.  sfexpat2000   Apr-01-06 06:38 PM   #46 
     - "You couldn't do this to me if I wasn't in this wheel chair."  QC   Apr-01-06 06:56 PM   #62 
     - LOL!  sfexpat2000   Apr-01-06 09:36 PM   #157 
     - Something strange about beliefs  ninkasi   Apr-01-06 07:59 PM   #93 
        - I am having hard time time understating why you, and others  question everything   Apr-01-06 08:19 PM   #106 
        - I agree. For some of us, it is about complicated but immediate  sfexpat2000   Apr-01-06 09:43 PM   #160 
        - better example  northzax   Apr-02-06 11:11 PM   #187 
           - Sorry for my late response  ninkasi   Apr-03-06 07:52 PM   #226 
              - I never intended to denigrate anyone  northzax   Apr-04-06 11:26 AM   #228 
  - You mean they don't identify as US citizens?  mondo joe   Apr-01-06 06:38 PM   #47 
  - I never understoond that.  Cleita   Apr-01-06 06:32 PM   #35 
  - And if I wanted to be a part of that country and a citizen I'd embrace  mondo joe   Apr-01-06 06:18 PM   #19 
     - Would you be willing to disrespect your ancestors to do that?  sfexpat2000   Apr-01-06 06:28 PM   #33 
        - It's no disrespect to my ancestors to honor the country I choose to be a  mondo joe   Apr-01-06 06:47 PM   #54 
           - And that's your way, not everyone's culture or way of expressing  sfexpat2000   Apr-01-06 09:47 PM   #163 
              - Insulting? Did I say they were wrong? No.  mondo joe   Apr-02-06 01:19 AM   #174 
                 - There is nothing "oblique" in my responses to your baiting.  sfexpat2000   Apr-02-06 01:58 AM   #176 
                    - Then please cite when I ever insulted their cultue.  mondo joe   Apr-02-06 09:46 AM   #180 
  - why monkeys on a stamp?  slaveplanet   Apr-01-06 06:14 PM   #14 
  - Cultural pride maybe  RagingInMiami   Apr-01-06 06:19 PM   #20 
  - I thought that they wanted to be Americans 365 days  question everything   Apr-01-06 06:28 PM   #32 
  - bravo. well said! n/t  laura888   Apr-01-06 07:35 PM   #80 
  - You are being deliberately obtuse, leading me to question  NCevilDUer   Apr-01-06 08:03 PM   #96 
     - Oh, the immigration cause isn't about becoming citizens?  mondo joe   Apr-01-06 08:09 PM   #101 
        - You bet your ass.  NCevilDUer   Apr-01-06 08:31 PM   #108 
           - Well they should just say so then. "We don't want to live in your  mondo joe   Apr-01-06 08:41 PM   #118 
  - "Maybe you shouldn't question everything."  Disturbed   Apr-01-06 06:35 PM   #42 
  - Just a play on his username  RagingInMiami   Apr-01-06 06:54 PM   #60 
  - Maybe you are right, but if so, it doesn't answer the question.  Inland   Apr-01-06 07:32 PM   #79 
  - I'm Celtic 365 baby. I have Irish and Scottish blood.  Kerrytravelers   Apr-03-06 12:19 AM   #203 
  - Let them show their pride. I don't have a problem with that.  Aristus   Apr-01-06 06:28 PM   #31 
  - Actually, Mexico outlawed slavery 40 years before the US did.  NCevilDUer   Apr-01-06 08:06 PM   #98 
     - But debt peonage persisted well into the 20th century. n/t  QC   Apr-01-06 09:08 PM   #138 
     - I didn't know that.  Aristus   Apr-02-06 07:18 PM   #184 
  - Well, I'm out of this xenophobic, jingoistic thread before I barf.  Redstone   Apr-01-06 06:33 PM   #38 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-01-06 06:36 PM   #44 
  - Non-assimilation has been used against many minorities...  countryjake   Apr-01-06 07:06 PM   #68 
  - When did I ever deny anyone any such right or seek to?  mondo joe   Apr-01-06 07:09 PM   #69 
     - Then I guess I don't understand why you have problems...  countryjake   Apr-01-06 07:14 PM   #70 
        - I have plenty of problems with a lot of things people are free to do.  mondo joe   Apr-01-06 07:22 PM   #74 
  - Why do you use an ethnic slur to describe your ancestors?  Heidi   Apr-02-06 06:07 AM   #178 
     - I used it in response to a message that used it. And I used it because  mondo joe   Apr-02-06 11:18 PM   #189 
  - Good-bye  DeaconBlues   Apr-01-06 08:07 PM   #100 
  - Well said. Thank you (nt)  question everything   Apr-01-06 08:32 PM   #109 
  - So in your studies have you found the reason "why some people might  izzybeans   Apr-01-06 09:34 PM   #155 
  - Uh, my ancestors came here legally  foreverdem   Apr-01-06 09:21 PM   #143 
  - Amen Redstone.  Katherine Brengle   Apr-01-06 10:14 PM   #168 
  - Ask the same question on St Patrick's Day.  Taxloss   Apr-01-06 06:50 PM   #57 
  - If the Irish flag were being flown in a protest to gain immigration to the  mondo joe   Apr-01-06 07:01 PM   #66 
  - Yeah! America! They should love it or leave it! :sarcasm:  Mayberry Machiavelli   Apr-01-06 06:54 PM   #59 
  - A Little Something Called Identity And Dignity  KharmaTrain   Apr-01-06 07:03 PM   #67 
  - It's very simple. They see racism as the only motive for immig. controls  Inland   Apr-01-06 07:21 PM   #73 
  - That's actually the best answer I've seen to this issue this whole week.  mondo joe   Apr-01-06 07:23 PM   #75 
  - I've made it ten times. But nobody ever bites.  Inland   Apr-01-06 07:37 PM   #82 
     - I agree that combined would be more effective, though problematic  mondo joe   Apr-01-06 07:41 PM   #83 
        - It's not, for sure.  Inland   Apr-01-06 07:53 PM   #90 
  - "They see racism as the only motive for immig. controls"  Zookeeper   Apr-03-06 03:12 AM   #217 
  - Yet they want to make money in our country - go figure!! nt  Minnesota Libra   Apr-01-06 07:23 PM   #76 
  - The same reason my husband flies an Australian flag  gollygee   Apr-01-06 07:36 PM   #81 
  - Did they wave it to protest immigration law?  question everything   Apr-01-06 08:40 PM   #117 
  - fair enough, why no Chinese, or Russian flags, why only Mexican...  bridgit   Apr-01-06 07:53 PM   #91 
  - Unanswered question if open borders means open to other than Mexicans.  Inland   Apr-01-06 08:06 PM   #97 
     - reasonable enough to conclude where a border crosses land...  bridgit   Apr-01-06 08:48 PM   #124 
  - What is with all this deification of a flag?  NCevilDUer   Apr-01-06 08:12 PM   #103 
  - Flags are potent symbols that send a message. If they weren't, they  mondo joe   Apr-01-06 08:14 PM   #105 
     - Why potent? What message?  NCevilDUer   Apr-01-06 08:32 PM   #110 
        - Yadda yadda yadda. Then idolatry is potent and sends a message.  mondo joe   Apr-01-06 08:44 PM   #120 
           - I may be in denial, but that doesn't make it any less stupid.  NCevilDUer   Apr-01-06 08:55 PM   #130 
              - Feelings aren't real but they have real impact.  mondo joe   Apr-01-06 09:07 PM   #136 
  - Why the Irish flag?  proud2Blib   Apr-01-06 08:34 PM   #111 
  - Is it a heritage celebration?  mondo joe   Apr-01-06 08:46 PM   #122 
     - My Irish friend flies his Irish flag every day  proud2Blib   Apr-01-06 08:48 PM   #123 
        - The counter productivity would depend on what he's trying to acheive,  mondo joe   Apr-01-06 08:50 PM   #126 
        - um I think he is just proud of his heritage  proud2Blib   Apr-01-06 08:55 PM   #129 
           - Then he's not trying to achieve anything with it, is he? But the  mondo joe   Apr-01-06 09:01 PM   #133 
              - Whatever you say joe  proud2Blib   Apr-01-06 09:04 PM   #134 
        - but he's Irish, right?  northzax   Apr-02-06 11:18 PM   #190 
  - Bottom line: many posters have stated reasons for this. The "but WHY"  Mayberry Machiavelli   Apr-01-06 09:08 PM   #139 
  - Because they are dumbasses and don't realize how damaging it is...  NoodleyAppendage   Apr-01-06 09:13 PM   #141 
  - That's what I think  question everything   Apr-02-06 11:44 PM   #194 
  - Pride  Lefty48197   Apr-01-06 09:23 PM   #146 
  - LOL!  Kerrytravelers   Apr-03-06 01:32 AM   #214 
  - Because Karl Rove requested them when he called Central Casting. n/t  QC   Apr-01-06 09:24 PM   #147 
  - A message of utter disgust with a law that makes Felons of loved ones...  countryjake   Apr-01-06 09:25 PM   #149 
  - Thank you.  NCevilDUer   Apr-01-06 09:31 PM   #154 
  - Yes, an opposition to a law to be debated and enacted by  question everything   Apr-03-06 12:02 AM   #197 
     - Expressing anger & showing unity & strength is the ONLY way to influence..  countryjake   Apr-03-06 02:40 AM   #216 
  - I agree with you to this point:  IselaB   Apr-01-06 09:27 PM   #150 
  - The very early gay rights demonstrators did that.  QC   Apr-01-06 09:40 PM   #159 
     - If you're trying to change somebody's mind -  IselaB   Apr-01-06 09:48 PM   #165 
  - Why the American Flag?  izzybeans   Apr-01-06 09:37 PM   #158 
  - Nah, you ignore the context.  mondo joe   Apr-01-06 09:46 PM   #162 
     - No I'm not.  izzybeans   Apr-01-06 09:48 PM   #164 
  - Seems it became a flamefest after all. A pity.  HypnoToad   Apr-01-06 11:56 PM   #171 
  - Great post, HypnoToad. n/t  Zookeeper   Apr-03-06 03:19 AM   #218 
  - This is much like I said, but nobody ever responds.  Inland   Apr-03-06 12:37 PM   #223 
  - I guess they have a right - but I'm not a fan of any kind of flag waving  aint_no_life_nowhere   Apr-02-06 12:25 AM   #172 
  - They're not waving the flag in honor of their government  RagingInMiami   Apr-02-06 03:18 AM   #177 
     - Finally!!  monarch   Apr-02-06 02:59 PM   #183 
        - I hope you're not directing that to my post under which you have posted  aint_no_life_nowhere   Apr-03-06 01:54 PM   #225 
  - Maybe ANSWER organized these protests too  fishnfla   Apr-02-06 08:22 AM   #179 
  - Nice touch  question everything   Apr-02-06 02:48 PM   #182 
  - "National pride" and "national identity."  TahitiNut   Apr-02-06 11:19 PM   #191 
  - Ever hear of ETHNIC PRIDE????????????????????????  radio4progressives   Apr-02-06 11:39 PM   #193 
  - I concur with the original poster...  Fountain79   Apr-02-06 11:50 PM   #195 
  - Prolly not.  laheina   Apr-03-06 03:42 AM   #222 
     - LOL  question everything   Apr-06-06 02:24 PM   #233 
  - What message is Karl Rove trying to send?  Swamp Rat   Apr-03-06 12:49 AM   #208 
  - Mexicans are colonizing the US and there is no way to stop them.  Zorra   Apr-03-06 01:02 AM   #210 
  - No thanks. n/t  Zookeeper   Apr-03-06 03:34 AM   #220 
  - Three languages: trilingual, Two languages: bilingual, one language  laheina   Apr-03-06 03:39 AM   #221 
  - The people bitching about the Mexican Flag....  Bridget Burke   Apr-03-06 01:40 PM   #224 
  - Uh, easy for who?  foreverdem   Apr-04-06 01:02 PM   #229 
     - Getting here is one thing.....  Bridget Burke   Apr-05-06 09:37 AM   #230 
  - some wave the Mexican flag in solidarity with the poor  AlphaCentauri   Apr-03-06 09:54 PM   #227 
     - Waving the American flag after 9/11 was a solidarity  question everything   Apr-06-06 02:33 PM   #234 
 

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