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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 01:29 PM
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19. So the answer is to make them full citizens, not guest workers.
Then companies will be forced to pay better wages. They'll get to stay here and become part of the middle class instead of being used as indentured servants before being shipped back to Mexico.
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  -Think through your position on illegal immigration... converted_democrat  Apr-01-06 12:37 PM   #0 
  - How professional and what kind of education or training in  Cleita   Apr-01-06 12:45 PM   #1 
  - I have a mix of both.. I have "skilled" workers, over seeing the  converted_democrat   Apr-01-06 12:54 PM   #4 
     - Your office help has to be able to read and write in English.  Cleita   Apr-01-06 01:00 PM   #6 
        - I think you hit the nail on the head..  converted_democrat   Apr-01-06 01:06 PM   #9 
        - Yes, but you need those who speak both languages.  Cleita   Apr-01-06 01:15 PM   #14 
        - Have you noticed that neither the Rethugs or Democrats...  Zookeeper   Apr-01-06 02:19 PM   #26 
           - In my opinion, it just confirms who is actually in control of this  converted_democrat   Apr-01-06 02:27 PM   #27 
              - Eureka I found it. What the employer should be fined  Cleita   Apr-01-06 02:42 PM   #28 
  - You forget to factor in that when an illegal becomes legitimate  styersc   Apr-01-06 12:49 PM   #2 
  - What makes you think they will enforce it?  DefenseLawyer   Apr-01-06 01:00 PM   #5 
  - My opinion on that.  Cleita   Apr-01-06 01:10 PM   #11 
     - I am not talking about enforcing them against the immigrants  DefenseLawyer   Apr-01-06 01:15 PM   #15 
        - There are no laws about this that I can find.  Cleita   Apr-01-06 01:24 PM   #17 
           - the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 (IRCA)  DefenseLawyer   Apr-01-06 01:30 PM   #20 
              - Thanks for the information. I will see what I can find on Google.  Cleita   Apr-01-06 01:40 PM   #23 
  - I'm not so sure you're right. Minimum wage in this state is  converted_democrat   Apr-01-06 01:01 PM   #7 
     - "Unions are all but gone, so I don't see anything  Cleita   Apr-01-06 01:05 PM   #8 
        - In a very real sense our borders are picket lines.  sadiesworld   Apr-01-06 01:11 PM   #12 
  - Good points to consider. This is why people fear driving down wages.  mzmolly   Apr-01-06 12:50 PM   #3 
  - Thank-you for making the choice to pay fair wages to US citizens.  sadiesworld   Apr-01-06 01:07 PM   #10 
  - Everybody should get decent wages. We need to make the  Cleita   Apr-01-06 01:12 PM   #13 
     - If businesses had to pay "decent wages"...  sadiesworld   Apr-01-06 01:20 PM   #16 
        - "legalization of substandard wages"  Warren Stupidity   Apr-01-06 01:27 PM   #18 
           - If they have to pay wages dictated by supply and demand...  sadiesworld   Apr-01-06 01:36 PM   #22 
  - So the answer is to make them full citizens, not guest workers.  Radical Activist   Apr-01-06 01:29 PM   #19 
  - How would a flooded market make for better wages?  converted_democrat   Apr-01-06 02:10 PM   #25 
     - Illegal immigrants don't make minimum wage.  Radical Activist   Apr-02-06 11:42 AM   #30 
        - The people that I know that use them pay minimum wage, they just  converted_democrat   Apr-02-06 12:48 PM   #32 
  - ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION FORCES DOWN SALARIES OF MIDDLE-CLASS  Dr. Jones   Apr-01-06 01:33 PM   #21 
  - Don't you have your own thread about this? n/t  Cleita   Apr-01-06 01:41 PM   #24 
  - I actually don't think it is going to resolve itself anytime soon...  WCGreen   Apr-01-06 04:56 PM   #29 
  - They undercut me.. I run a pretty efficient ship, and I have no idea  converted_democrat   Apr-02-06 01:15 PM   #33 
  - A Damn Good Case of the Mexicali Blues  billybreathes71   Apr-02-06 12:26 PM   #31 
 

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