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Ufomammut Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 08:23 AM
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28. Received this from Mark Crispin Miller
Bush/Cheney testing nukes

... and doing it quietly!

Shouldn't we be making noise about this?



Seems as though the Bush administration has been doing a little "quiet" nuclear testing in poor old Nevada...this email came from a member of the local native coverage anyone?

Stephenie Hendricks

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P.O. Box 211308
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-----Original Message-----
From: < >
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 5:53 PM
Subject: Nuclear weapons test tomorrow at Nevada Test

Krakatau Subcritical Experiment Scheduled

For Immediate Release February 21, 2006
National Nuclear Security Administration .

Krakatau, a joint United States/United Kingdom (US/UK)
subcritical experiment, will be conducted on February 23,
2006, at the Nevada Test Site. The experiment will be
conducted in the U1a complex. The Atomic Weapons
Establishment of the United Kingdom and Los Alamos National
Laboratory are conducting the experiment to gather
scientific data that provides crucial information to
maintain the safety and reliability of each nation's nuclear
weapons without having to conduct underground nuclear tests.

There have been 21 subcritical experiments to date since
they began in 1997. The last subcritical experiment,
Armando, was conducted on May 25, 2004. The last joint
US/UK subcritical experiment was Vito, conducted on February
14, 2002. Krakatau is a follow-on to the Vito experiment.

Subcritical experiments examine the behavior of plutonium as
it is strongly shocked by forces produced by chemical high
explosives. Subcritical experiments produce essential
scientific data and technical information used to help
maintain the safety and reliability of the nuclear weapons
stockpile. The experiments are subcritical; that is, no
critical mass is formed and no self-sustaining nuclear chain

reaction can occur; thus, there is no nuclear explosion.

The Nevada Test Site's U1a Complex is located 85 miles
northwest of Las Vegas. The U1a Complex is designed to
contain these experiments in a safe and secure environment
in an underground laboratory of horizontal tunnels with
small excavated experimental alcoves mined at the base of a
vertical shaft, approximately 960 feet beneath the surface.

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  -Anyone else a little freaked about the Nevada nukyular test? Atman  Mar-31-06 07:25 AM   #0 
  - I definitely think we're sending a message to the world  AndyA   Mar-31-06 07:30 AM   #1 
  - Easter nuke in Texas,City, Texas say 'reverse-speech' experts  KAT119   Mar-31-06 08:18 AM   #26 
     - mn .eno taht revo htaerb ym gnidloh TON yllaer m'I...llew, haeY  dicksteele   Mar-31-06 09:04 AM   #45 
     - Okay, I think this Ken Welch guy as too much time on his hands!  Atman   Mar-31-06 09:09 AM   #47 
     - Ageed  Marie26   Mar-31-06 10:43 AM   #66 
     - And the donations in!  Marie26   Mar-31-06 10:44 AM   #67 
     - I don't know--but I definitely found that an interesting read!  jeanarrett   Mar-31-06 01:07 PM   #86 
  - Just when you thought it couldn't get worse...  shenmue   Mar-31-06 07:30 AM   #2 
  - It does freak me out.  guinivere   Mar-31-06 07:32 AM   #3 
  - Very disturbing sign. Also, I posted/linked about this the other day and  Ufomammut   Mar-31-06 07:33 AM   #4 
  - when is THAT happening?  Stephanie   Mar-31-06 07:33 AM   #5 
  - Stupid? Maybe. EVIL? YES!  Ufomammut   Mar-31-06 07:36 AM   #8 
  - 1,400,000 pounds  madokie   Mar-31-06 07:34 AM   #6 
  - I know we all think that Bush is capable of anything.  Joe Fields   Mar-31-06 07:34 AM   #7 
  - I disagree that Bush "decides" anything, especially..  Ufomammut   Mar-31-06 07:42 AM   #11 
     - It will never happen.  Joe Fields   Mar-31-06 07:53 AM   #14 
        - You know, I was a kid in the 80s...  Ufomammut   Mar-31-06 08:04 AM   #22 
           - Americans would never stand for an unjustified nuclear strike.  Joe Fields   Mar-31-06 08:22 AM   #27 
           - As stated, normally I would agree...  Ufomammut   Mar-31-06 08:30 AM   #32 
           - The neocons fooled us once with 9/11.  Joe Fields   Mar-31-06 08:39 AM   #37 
              - And that they ARE under the gun is precisely what scares me  Ufomammut   Mar-31-06 08:45 AM   #40 
           - Americans would never stand for invading a sovereign nation  Atman   Mar-31-06 08:31 AM   #33 
           - Thank you. Exactly  Ufomammut   Mar-31-06 08:33 AM   #34 
           - Tell you what. If it happens, I will tell you that...  Joe Fields   Mar-31-06 08:42 AM   #38 
              - That's besides the point and I pray such speculation is wrong  Ufomammut   Mar-31-06 08:58 AM   #43 
                 - No, the point is that you are afraid it will happen,  Joe Fields   Mar-31-06 09:40 AM   #53 
                    - Yeah, I'm quite concerned they will stage something  Ufomammut   Mar-31-06 09:49 AM   #54 
                       - As I stated, it is my opinion. Not a fact, but opinion.  Joe Fields   Mar-31-06 09:54 AM   #55 
           - Truman did  KurtNYC   Mar-31-06 09:04 AM   #44 
           - There are some people out there who would argue with you..  Virginia Dare   Mar-31-06 09:22 AM   #51 
           - The words "Americans would never stand for" have...  Mr_Jefferson_24   Mar-31-06 12:40 PM   #84 
           - I had a similar epiphany...  Virginia Dare   Mar-31-06 08:43 AM   #39 
              - "Rule By Secrecy," by Jim Marrs is good  Ufomammut   Mar-31-06 08:50 AM   #41 
              - That's why I found the "matrix" reference interesting in the  jeanarrett   Mar-31-06 01:14 PM   #88 
  - What's the source on this causing a magnitude 3-4 earthquake? Have not se  paul_fromatlanta   Mar-31-06 07:38 AM   #9 
  - here is a somewhat larger conventional explosion that did register  paul_fromatlanta   Mar-31-06 07:41 AM   #10 
  - Only the news report I saw on Cabal News today  Atman   Mar-31-06 07:50 AM   #13 
     - Found the link - I was searching wrong  paul_fromatlanta   Mar-31-06 07:57 AM   #17 
  - I absolutely hate this.  leftyladyfrommo   Mar-31-06 07:49 AM   #12 
  - Terrible, terrible  DemonFighterLives   Mar-31-06 07:56 AM   #15 
  - Correct, this is a MOAB, not a nuke. My bad. Here's a link...  Atman   Mar-31-06 08:02 AM   #21 
     - Thanks  DemonFighterLives   Mar-31-06 08:29 AM   #31 
     - It still bothers me. nt  guinivere   Mar-31-06 08:35 AM   #36 
     - Thank the Divine, this is a kinder, gentler bomb  donkeyotay   Mar-31-06 12:01 PM   #82 
  - Moabs are conventional explosives, right? Not nukes?  DrRang   Mar-31-06 07:56 AM   #16 
  - That is correct  paul_fromatlanta   Mar-31-06 07:57 AM   #18 
     - Not a nuke= I feel a little better  DemonFighterLives   Mar-31-06 08:02 AM   #20 
        - This is a larger version of the "Mother of all bombs" -  paul_fromatlanta   Mar-31-06 08:13 AM   #24 
           - That is the one thing we can count on from dubco  DemonFighterLives   Mar-31-06 08:28 AM   #30 
  - They could have tested it underground or on an island where nobody  paul_fromatlanta   Mar-31-06 08:01 AM   #19 
  - Why don't they conduct the test in Wyoming?  lonestarnot   Mar-31-06 08:08 AM   #23 
  - Official reason: Nevada is the normal large explosive test site  paul_fromatlanta   Mar-31-06 08:18 AM   #25 
     - You Really Think They'll See The Cloud From This Bomb In Vegas?  ProfessorGAC   Mar-31-06 09:15 AM   #48 
     - actually, you could  newspeak   Mar-31-06 10:37 AM   #63 
     - Those Were Not 0.6kT Bombs Though  ProfessorGAC   Mar-31-06 10:44 AM   # 
     - Those Were Not 0.6kT Bombs Though  ProfessorGAC   Mar-31-06 10:44 AM   #69 
     - Those Were Not 0.6kT Bombs Though  ProfessorGAC   Mar-31-06 10:44 AM   #70 
     - No, I think I was wrong....looking at the math on this site  paul_fromatlanta   Mar-31-06 10:56 AM   #72 
        - Well, Only Sort Of  ProfessorGAC   Mar-31-06 11:03 AM   #74 
        - Ok, it sounds like I was wrong about being wrong.  paul_fromatlanta   Mar-31-06 11:30 AM   #77 
           - You're A Good Sport, Paul  ProfessorGAC   Mar-31-06 11:36 AM   #79 
        - Again  ProfessorGAC   Mar-31-06 11:03 AM   #75 
        - Triple Again  ProfessorGAC   Mar-31-06 11:03 AM   #76 
     - This Is Annoying  ProfessorGAC   Mar-31-06 09:15 AM   #49 
     - What are you annoyed about?  lonestarnot   Mar-31-06 10:25 AM   #57 
        - The System Keeps Triple Posting On Me  ProfessorGAC   Mar-31-06 10:34 AM   #59 
        - Call your ISP  Atman   Mar-31-06 10:35 AM   #62 
        - That's A Thought  ProfessorGAC   Mar-31-06 10:38 AM   #64 
        - Happened for 2 days for me. Email staff.  lonestarnot   Mar-31-06 10:39 AM   #65 
           - Did It  ProfessorGAC   Mar-31-06 10:45 AM   #71 
        - The System Keeps Triple Posting On Me  ProfessorGAC   Mar-31-06 10:34 AM   #60 
        - The System Keeps Triple Posting On Me  ProfessorGAC   Mar-31-06 10:34 AM   #61 
     - Darn It  ProfessorGAC   Mar-31-06 09:15 AM   #50 
     - "penetrate their nuclear..." - No this is a bunker buster  KurtNYC   Mar-31-06 09:23 AM   #52 
     - You're right except I believe Iran's nuclear facilities are in bunkers  paul_fromatlanta   Mar-31-06 10:59 AM   #73 
     - "...and Iran will be aware...  ronnie624   Mar-31-06 11:56 AM   #81 
  - Received this from Mark Crispin Miller  Ufomammut   Mar-31-06 08:23 AM   #28 
  - Very interesting!  Atman   Mar-31-06 08:34 AM   #35 
  - They could have done that in secret - I think its a message to Iran  paul_fromatlanta   Mar-31-06 08:50 AM   #42 
  - wait a tic...  blogslut   Mar-31-06 12:01 PM   #83 
  - NOT nuclear! I'm still bothered, but it is conventional, not nuclear.  hlthe2b   Mar-31-06 08:27 AM   #29 
  - Here is full info on the "GBU-43-MOAB - Massive Ordnance Air Blast Bomb":  jim3775   Mar-31-06 09:06 AM   #46 
  - *raises hand* nt  Marie26   Mar-31-06 10:14 AM   #56 
  - yes, living outside of Vegas now  newspeak   Mar-31-06 10:30 AM   #58 
  - Lord Pissypants should be standing right under the fallout  951-Riverside   Mar-31-06 10:44 AM   #68 
  - I thought above ground testing had be banned in the sixties by  Cleita   Mar-31-06 11:32 AM   #78 
  - Not a nuke.  lonestarnot   Mar-31-06 11:51 AM   #80 
     - it's not supposed to be a nuke  newspeak   Mar-31-06 12:49 PM   #85 
        - It just makes sense to me that is a possibility. The shit remains  lonestarnot   Mar-31-06 01:14 PM   #87 
  - K & R. nt  TheGoldenRule   Mar-31-06 01:33 PM   #89 

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