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Thu Mar-30-06 12:13 PM
Response to Reply #53 |
| 56. I believe it is not impossible at all. |
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And that it is likely to be the solution we arrive at eventually. I just wish we would arrive at it now and save so many years of pain that will elapse before it is forced upon us by the failure of all other "solutions".
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| -DEBATE: I argue for open borders. |
benburch |
Mar-30-06 08:17 AM |
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i don't believe in it in all cases -- just with mexico. |
xchrom |
Mar-30-06 08:30 AM |
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couple thoughts |
Jim4Wes |
Mar-30-06 08:44 AM |
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It is a security risk that is made of pure fear with no truth in it. |
benburch |
Mar-30-06 08:48 AM |
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Still disagree. |
Jim4Wes |
Mar-30-06 09:01 AM |
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If border security were 5% better, would we be 5% safer? nt |
benburch |
Mar-30-06 09:06 AM |
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Thats a very low goal don't you think n/t |
Jim4Wes |
Mar-30-06 09:09 AM |
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I'm just wondering when the benefit appears? |
benburch |
Mar-30-06 09:15 AM |
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A better analogy might be |
Jim4Wes |
Mar-30-06 09:23 AM |
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So, knowing this, they send two. |
benburch |
Mar-30-06 09:31 AM |
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I don't see where open borders |
Jim4Wes |
Mar-30-06 09:37 AM |
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Indeed, part of the assumption |
Inland |
Mar-30-06 11:24 AM |
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I agree -- |
Katherine Brengle |
Mar-30-06 08:47 AM |
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Let's see............. |
PsN2Wind |
Mar-30-06 08:48 AM |
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Jobs are not a zero sum game. |
benburch |
Mar-30-06 08:51 AM |
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If we had your "open borders"? |
PsN2Wind |
Mar-30-06 09:06 AM |
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The jobs would come from increased demands for goods and services. |
benburch |
Mar-30-06 09:11 AM |
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Sure wish those jobs were available when I was younger |
PsN2Wind |
Mar-30-06 09:19 AM |
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I wonder why Mexico isn't rich, then? Not enough immigration? |
Inland |
Mar-30-06 11:43 AM |
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Mexico is a very wealthy country |
Horse with no Name |
Mar-30-06 12:23 PM |
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If you had no money, you could NOT get into Canada. |
Bridget Burke |
Mar-30-06 01:19 PM |
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That is true |
Horse with no Name |
Mar-30-06 01:22 PM |
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Minimum wage isn't a living wage. |
Cobalt Violet |
Mar-30-06 11:28 AM |
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One battle at a time! |
benburch |
Mar-30-06 02:31 PM |
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they don't want blacks to have ANY jobs. ever. period. |
pitohui |
Mar-30-06 12:22 PM |
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agree |
sweetheart |
Mar-30-06 08:53 AM |
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There will be no borders eventually |
Radio_Guy |
Mar-30-06 09:05 AM |
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Here is a suggested reading for you. |
lonestarnot |
Mar-30-06 09:10 AM |
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I would agree that we need to open our borders |
proud2Blib |
Mar-30-06 09:13 AM |
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Absolutely. |
benburch |
Mar-30-06 09:22 AM |
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I doubt it but maybe reading another view will help people.............. |
Minnesota Libra |
Mar-30-06 09:31 AM |
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Nobody says whether open borders are good for current Americans. |
Inland |
Mar-30-06 09:42 AM |
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Like I said. |
benburch |
Mar-30-06 10:02 AM |
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The past isn't applicable. |
Inland |
Mar-30-06 10:10 AM |
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Careful Inland |
PsN2Wind |
Mar-30-06 11:42 AM |
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That's okay, the monster will out soon enough. |
Inland |
Mar-30-06 06:57 PM |
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It's a monster for sure |
PsN2Wind |
Mar-30-06 07:50 PM |
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nice post inland |
pitohui |
Mar-30-06 12:27 PM |
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Sorry, not getting it. Is this a parody thread? "Open borders" |
UTUSN |
Mar-30-06 11:09 AM |
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It's on the screen and it isn't. |
Inland |
Mar-30-06 11:12 AM |
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Well, it SHOULD be on the radar screen. |
benburch |
Mar-30-06 11:22 AM |
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feel free to point out the flaws of this argument |
LSK |
Mar-30-06 11:25 AM |
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Which is really the only motivation to make the argument. |
Inland |
Mar-30-06 11:29 AM |
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I thought I was seriously proposing it. |
benburch |
Mar-30-06 12:06 PM |
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I'm saying it's easy. |
Inland |
Mar-30-06 12:08 PM |
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I believe it is not impossible at all. |
benburch |
Mar-30-06 12:13 PM |
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"flaws/argument" - It's more the entire CONCEPT. |
UTUSN |
Mar-30-06 02:06 PM |
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Nice way to belittle an argument you don't like. |
benburch |
Mar-30-06 07:42 PM |
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I tried to be very polite to and respectful of you and believe that I gave |
UTUSN |
Mar-30-06 09:41 PM |
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Fair enough... |
benburch |
Mar-30-06 10:09 PM |
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As the medieval debaters realized, there is a point where we must just |
UTUSN |
Mar-30-06 10:16 PM |
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Actually... |
benburch |
Mar-30-06 10:35 PM |
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I suggest an experiment. |
mondo joe |
Mar-30-06 11:16 AM |
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But part of the experiment is also whether they ever leave. |
Inland |
Mar-30-06 11:21 AM |
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Mar-30-06 11:25 AM |
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Shame on you. |
Inland |
Mar-30-06 11:35 AM |
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Sorry, really did read it that way. |
benburch |
Mar-30-06 12:02 PM |
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Hey, how much work are you and I getting done this A.M.? nt |
Inland |
Mar-30-06 12:07 PM |
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Don't know about you... |
benburch |
Mar-30-06 12:09 PM |
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Well, then, half of us are unproductive time wasters. nt |
Inland |
Mar-30-06 12:10 PM |
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I'm about to go waste time at lunch... |
benburch |
Mar-30-06 12:14 PM |
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I have never in my life said or believed that immigrants are |
mondo joe |
Mar-30-06 11:39 AM |
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My apologies, as I did read it that way. |
benburch |
Mar-30-06 12:03 PM |
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Apology accepted. Thanks. |
mondo joe |
Mar-30-06 02:14 PM |
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i agree n/t |
LSK |
Mar-30-06 11:24 AM |
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I agree completely |
Jose Diablo |
Mar-30-06 11:26 AM |
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We steal their land, divert their water, and then some people wonder... |
NNN0LHI |
Mar-30-06 11:30 AM |
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I think that would drive down the money americans get paid... |
harpo |
Mar-30-06 11:30 AM |
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I agree. Like it or not, our economy needs them. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-30-06 11:35 AM |
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ALL of them, being all the people who want to come? |
Inland |
Mar-30-06 11:41 AM |
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As I said, I believe in open borders. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-30-06 11:45 AM |
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But not because the US economy will benefit. |
Inland |
Mar-30-06 11:59 AM |
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this is just free market cant |
pitohui |
Mar-30-06 12:36 PM |
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There should be a "North American Union" |
Blue_In_AK |
Mar-30-06 11:40 AM |
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I'm with Thom Hartmann on this one... |
rucky |
Mar-30-06 11:55 AM |
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what's to discuss if you have no concept of reality? |
pitohui |
Mar-30-06 12:18 PM |
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Borders are necessary for Organization. Totally Open Borders |
cryingshame |
Mar-30-06 12:18 PM |
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I think it would strengthen the body politic greatly. |
benburch |
Mar-30-06 02:29 PM |
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Open borders is the only thing that will save this country... |
Xenotime |
Mar-30-06 01:15 PM |
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Let the Unions guard the borders.... |
Bridget Burke |
Mar-30-06 01:24 PM |
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BkMrked. nt |
babylonsister |
Mar-30-06 10:21 PM |
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They come because it's better here. |
Gregorian |
Mar-30-06 10:41 PM |
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were all humans |
mdmc |
Mar-30-06 10:47 PM |
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