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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:52 PM
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15. Odd way of stating it.
I'd call that weaseling out of admitting that this is a pro-war stance. The Bush administration's policy is officially "pro not leaving Iraq in a mess".

How about we call a spade a spade. Hillary is a pro war Democrat. Until she makes a public statement refuting her numerous pro war statements, she remains a pro war Democrat.
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  -Is Senator Hillary Clinton pro Iraq War? IsItJustMe  Mar-28-06 12:13 PM   #0 
  - shes in the "Stay the course" camp  LSK   Mar-28-06 12:14 PM   #1 
  - Would that be the "Support our Oops" camp? (n/t)  coalition_unwilling   Mar-28-06 02:44 PM   #26 
  - There are no Democratic Senators who are Pro-Iraq War. n/t  Clarkie1   Mar-28-06 12:15 PM   #2 
  - If she is wanting to send more troops over there, you may argue that she's  IsItJustMe   Mar-28-06 12:20 PM   #4 
  - Before the war, a lot of my republican co-workers told me...  Yollam   Mar-28-06 12:29 PM   #11 
  - Uh?  endarkenment   Mar-28-06 12:50 PM   #14 
  - I would argue that anyone who votes to fund it is for the war...  harpo   Mar-28-06 02:48 PM   #29 
  - Wow the things you learn on the DU!  Generator   Mar-28-06 03:48 PM   #53 
  - Yes, absolutely. If she wasn't you'd know.  BuyingThyme   Mar-28-06 12:16 PM   #3 
  - Hillary and many other Democrats are "pro-not leaving Iraq in a mess."  oasis   Mar-28-06 12:21 PM   #5 
  - Odd way of stating it.  endarkenment   Mar-28-06 12:52 PM   #15 
  - Like to take a crack at answering the question on post #10?  oasis   Mar-28-06 01:11 PM   #16 
     - That is a non answer, as was pointed out in the reply.  endarkenment   Mar-28-06 01:56 PM   #19 
        - Only straight answers huh? Okay. Hillary would say "no" . I say "no" and  oasis   Mar-28-06 02:11 PM   #20 
           - Say no to what?  endarkenment   Mar-28-06 02:26 PM   #21 
              - The OP's question: Is Hillary pro-Iraq war?. I say "no".  oasis   Mar-28-06 02:31 PM   #23 
                 - You are playing word games.  endarkenment   Mar-28-06 02:55 PM   #34 
                    - "word games"? "common understanding"? The bottom line answer to the OP's  oasis   Mar-28-06 03:08 PM   #37 
                       - Here is what Senator Clinton said.  endarkenment   Mar-28-06 03:21 PM   #39 
                          - "Concluding the war" means ending it. How is that "pro war"?  oasis   Mar-28-06 03:29 PM   #42 
                             - You left out the 'Winning and' part.  endarkenment   Mar-28-06 03:36 PM   #46 
                                - "Concluding" was the key word. Hillary wants our troops out of there.  oasis   Mar-28-06 03:45 PM   #52 
                                   - Now you are just making stuff up.  endarkenment   Mar-28-06 03:53 PM   #54 
                                      - I'm telling you what she means. Let go of you bias for a bit and read  oasis   Mar-28-06 04:05 PM   #58 
                                         - The objectivity lacking is over in your court.  endarkenment   Mar-28-06 04:28 PM   #60 
                                            - Concluding the war with the most positive results possible, could be  oasis   Mar-28-06 05:05 PM   #61 
                                               - More word salads  endarkenment   Mar-28-06 05:13 PM   #62 
                                                  - You're welcome. (n/t)  oasis   Mar-28-06 05:30 PM   #63 
  - Then send engineers, construction workers, etc. Why more troops?  shain from kane   Mar-28-06 01:17 PM   #17 
  - Who's going to keep the construction folks from being shot at?  oasis   Mar-28-06 01:50 PM   #18 
     - So our military should be used to protect construction  shain from kane   Mar-28-06 02:41 PM   #25 
        - Actually we are doing just that.  endarkenment   Mar-28-06 02:57 PM   #35 
        - In the 1800's, railroad tracks were laid across America under the  oasis   Mar-28-06 03:18 PM   #38 
           - So lets get this straight.  endarkenment   Mar-28-06 03:24 PM   #41 
           - See post # 17 by Shian 'Kane. He says we should bring in engineers,  oasis   Mar-28-06 03:34 PM   #45 
           - So our nation's "manifest destiny" is to conquer and occupy Iraq?  shain from kane   Mar-28-06 03:32 PM   #43 
              - How did you arrive at that conclusion?  oasis   Mar-28-06 03:40 PM   #50 
  - "Pro-not leaving Iraq in a mess"  GreenArrow   Mar-28-06 03:00 PM   #36 
  - Sadly, Hill didn't have a hand in drawing up the blueprints for the war.  oasis   Mar-28-06 03:22 PM   #40 
     - but she does have a hand  GreenArrow   Mar-28-06 03:37 PM   #47 
        - Or a simple no vote.  endarkenment   Mar-28-06 03:42 PM   #51 
           - ah yes, "success and honor!"  GreenArrow   Mar-28-06 03:57 PM   #57 
  - Too late  mmonk   Mar-28-06 03:38 PM   #48 
  - yes  wuushew   Mar-28-06 12:21 PM   #6 
  - IMHO, Hillary is "Pro Hillary Clinton"  hughee99   Mar-28-06 12:22 PM   #7 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-28-06 12:24 PM   #8 
  - Leading Dems who want our troops out of Iraq within the next 5 min. are?  oasis   Mar-28-06 12:29 PM   #10 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-28-06 12:33 PM   #12 
        - Welcome to DU. As for Feingold vs. Hillary in the 2008 primaries....  oasis   Mar-28-06 12:44 PM   #13 
  - Far as I know  Nite Owl   Mar-28-06 12:26 PM   #9 
  - She voted for it and still supports the occupation.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Mar-28-06 02:27 PM   #22 
  - Even if the people of NYS (I amongst them) are against it. She couldn't  OmmmSweetOmmm   Mar-28-06 02:47 PM   #28 
  - She is smart enough to know she can't win as a peace candidate  NNN0LHI   Mar-28-06 02:40 PM   #24 
  - What if the war is all ready lost? Eisenhower got elected  shain from kane   Mar-28-06 02:44 PM   #27 
  - Let's see -- Nixon's secret plan to end the war in Viet Nam  coalition_unwilling   Mar-28-06 02:52 PM   #32 
     - The argument was that no one could get elected running as  shain from kane   Mar-28-06 07:53 PM   #65 
        - Sorry about that -- sloppy reading\reasoning on my part. Hillary's  coalition_unwilling   Mar-29-06 12:35 PM   #70 
  - I heard that Cindy Sheehan met with Hillary and told her  coalition_unwilling   Mar-28-06 02:50 PM   #30 
  - yes.  GreenArrow   Mar-28-06 02:51 PM   #31 
  - She is "Pro-Hillary", nothing more.  dicksteele   Mar-28-06 02:52 PM   #33 
  - A misunderstanding  Lexingtonian   Mar-28-06 03:34 PM   #44 
  - HRC's game? no idea. her words are pretty clear:  endarkenment   Mar-28-06 03:39 PM   #49 
  - "finishing this war with success and honor"  Disturbed   Mar-28-06 03:56 PM   #55 
  - Excellent post. (n/t)  oasis   Mar-28-06 03:56 PM   #56 
  - That's a good policy IF  hughee99   Mar-28-06 04:23 PM   #59 
  - Hillary's game is .......  Egnever   Mar-28-06 10:50 PM   #67 
  - Hell YES she is (prove me wrong)!  Terran1212   Mar-28-06 05:32 PM   #64 
  - My Answer is A Resounding Yes  Al122   Mar-28-06 10:35 PM   #66 
  - Hi Al122!!  newyawker99   Mar-29-06 08:37 AM   #68 
  - Of course, since she is a CORPORATIST. Where those campaign $$$ come from.  WA98296   Mar-29-06 08:41 AM   #69 

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