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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 08:09 PM
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23. No one? You mean the elected politicians and "pundits"?
Edited on Sun Mar-26-06 08:09 PM by radio4progressives
I've been trying to make the case that all workers have a single common enemy, a system which essentially exploits labor and therefore profits from socio-economic oppression.... but by the way, can't talk about these issues without getting into the race and class analysis, because these policies that are developed and implemented depend on the exploitation of labor which creates race and class divisions. I've been trying to point this out in varying ways, but...

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  -The immigration crisis in the US is Montezuma's Revenge on the White Man RagingInMiami  Mar-26-06 06:22 PM   #0 
  - It's CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATISM  Warpy   Mar-26-06 06:30 PM   #1 
  - You have that right warpy... and that's the issue that needs to be  radio4progressives   Mar-26-06 06:47 PM   #5 
  - No one talks about this  liberal43110   Mar-26-06 08:01 PM   #20 
     - No one? You mean the elected politicians and "pundits"?  radio4progressives   Mar-26-06 08:09 PM   #23 
     - People are talking about that...  Zookeeper   Mar-27-06 02:27 AM   #57 
  - Thank you, Raging! I share your sentiments! I  babylonsister   Mar-26-06 06:38 PM   #2 
  - Just curious babylonsister  Horse with no Name   Mar-27-06 03:11 AM   #61 
     - It drives wages down across the board... n/t  converted_democrat   Mar-27-06 12:00 PM   #73 
  - If the immigration bill passes, it will be a typical do nothing  Maestro   Mar-26-06 06:40 PM   #3 
  - It will be interesting to see how the white christian fundies respond  radio4progressives   Mar-26-06 06:55 PM   #6 
  - The Catholic Church has long been there for the illegal immigrant  RagingInMiami   Mar-26-06 11:04 PM   #40 
  - viva la libertad! viva la raza!  radio4progressives   Mar-26-06 06:40 PM   #4 
  - Viva la Raza!  cherokeeprogressive   Mar-29-06 12:36 AM   #121 
  - Your post is most welcome  randr   Mar-26-06 06:59 PM   #7 
  - this is what people are really freaking out about...  radio4progressives   Mar-26-06 07:20 PM   #8 
     - People react so insanely to things that they have no  randr   Mar-26-06 07:26 PM   #11 
     - People are still posting insanity, they haven't even bothered to read  radio4progressives   Mar-26-06 11:33 PM   #49 
     - What they fail to see is that the two cultures will become one  RagingInMiami   Mar-26-06 07:38 PM   #12 
        - Many white college kids would starve if it wasn't for  Cleita   Mar-26-06 07:55 PM   #17 
        - Especially at 3 a.m.  RagingInMiami   Mar-26-06 08:03 PM   # 
        - yeah, like the whole French versus Freedom fries crap  NVMojo   Mar-28-06 05:15 AM   #100 
        - I love your anarchist avatar  radio4progressives   Mar-26-06 08:21 PM   #28 
           - Thanks  RagingInMiami   Mar-26-06 09:21 PM   #33 
              - I second that.  Hardrada   Mar-26-06 10:33 PM   #38 
              - upside down V for Vendetta  radio4progressives   Mar-26-06 11:22 PM   #46 
  - Y'know what funny thing I've been thinking?  buddyhollysghost   Mar-26-06 07:22 PM   #9 
  - But, Isn't that essentially at the root of White Supremacy after all?  radio4progressives   Mar-26-06 07:56 PM   #18 
     - No doubt  buddyhollysghost   Mar-26-06 08:03 PM   #22 
     - yes.. of course, the paranoia Israeilis have is based on real life  radio4progressives   Mar-26-06 08:14 PM   #25 
        - How do you protect yourself without harming others?  buddyhollysghost   Mar-26-06 09:00 PM   #32 
           - Yes, you'd think... eom  radio4progressives   Mar-26-06 11:13 PM   #42 
     - Indeed  malaise   Mar-27-06 02:18 PM   #80 
  - We have no right to deport...  BlueStorm   Mar-26-06 07:25 PM   #10 
  - I have a similar genes to you.  Cleita   Mar-26-06 07:51 PM   #16 
  - I think I have French Canadian Indian in me..  BlueStorm   Mar-28-06 05:09 PM   #114 
  - you put it very well...  radio4progressives   Mar-26-06 08:16 PM   #26 
  - Thanks for posting this. Some DUers don't believe that  Cleita   Mar-26-06 07:43 PM   #13 
  - exactly so..  radio4progressives   Mar-26-06 08:19 PM   #27 
     - This has probably been said somewhere else, but I've missed it  Appalachian_American   Mar-26-06 11:29 PM   #47 
        - !  radio4progressives   Mar-26-06 11:31 PM   #48 
  - The revolution is long overdue.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Mar-26-06 07:44 PM   #14 
  - dr. truxillo of the university  VirtualChicano   Mar-26-06 07:50 PM   #15 
     - "Utah Said To Be Historical Location Of Mythical Aztlan"  radio4progressives   Mar-26-06 08:30 PM   #30 
        - Awake Sleeping Giant, Awake!  VirtualChicano   Mar-27-06 02:14 AM   #56 
        - What up, Raza!  RagingInMiami   Mar-27-06 09:33 AM   #68 
           - EL PUEBLO UNIDO  VirtualChicano   Mar-28-06 03:00 AM   #93 
              - I love it  RagingInMiami   Mar-28-06 09:14 AM   #106 
        - Utah and Nevada were part of Mexico but taken in time for the California  NVMojo   Mar-28-06 05:18 AM   #101 
  - I am Norwegian by descent and would just love  Hardrada   Mar-26-06 07:57 PM   #19 
  - agreed  kineneb   Mar-26-06 09:22 PM   #34 
  - In an interesting correlate: DC is about to become majority minority  MountainLaurel   Mar-26-06 08:03 PM   #21 
  - I lived in San Francisco for ten years and loved the fact...  Zookeeper   Mar-27-06 02:42 AM   #60 
  - Outstanding!  proud2Blib   Mar-26-06 08:12 PM   #24 
  - Fuck the bullshit dude...fight the republican corporate structure...  Zinfandel   Mar-26-06 08:28 PM   #29 
  - Its republican corporate structure thats the enemy  lovuian   Mar-26-06 08:38 PM   #31 
  - Ruling Class Elite - They Control Both Parties  radio4progressives   Mar-26-06 11:20 PM   #44 
  - I'm not fighting liberal brothers and sisters  RagingInMiami   Mar-26-06 09:50 PM   #35 
  - Amen Brother... Amen! This is exactly what's all about!  radio4progressives   Mar-26-06 11:10 PM   #41 
  - Zinfandel I Toss Love & Kisses To You From Sicily  Binka   Mar-27-06 03:14 AM   #63 
  - Amazing how some racism  Le Taz Hot   Mar-28-06 02:38 PM   #113 
     - I'm afraid i share your observations..  radio4progressives   Mar-28-06 11:45 PM   #119 
  - You mean "share land we stole from them", don't you?  countryjake   Mar-26-06 09:54 PM   #36 
  - Have you heard of the ongoing strike down here in Miami  RagingInMiami   Mar-26-06 10:01 PM   #37 
  - Typical offering of concessions...  countryjake   Mar-26-06 11:16 PM   #43 
     - great story... eom  radio4progressives   Mar-26-06 11:21 PM   #45 
  - We always said that in the SDS  Hardrada   Mar-26-06 10:37 PM   #39 
     - thank you  dusmcj   Mar-27-06 12:03 AM   #51 
        - "The Dilettantes and The Flatulators"  radio4progressives   Mar-27-06 12:50 AM   #52 
        - Revolutionary continuity...  countryjake   Mar-27-06 01:07 AM   #53 
           - workers united! will never be defeated!..  radio4progressives   Mar-27-06 01:29 AM   #54 
              - To the tune of the Battle Hymn of the Republic...  countryjake   Mar-27-06 01:46 AM   #55 
                 - Thanks! Solidarity Forever is One of My Favorite Workers Anthym!  radio4progressives   Mar-27-06 11:01 AM   #69 
  - Kicking for the am crowd..  radio4progressives   Mar-26-06 11:59 PM   #50 
  - The "white man" are also the upper class within MEXICO  Ignacio Upton   Mar-27-06 02:32 AM   #58 
  - Don't worry. There will be no Chicano Civil War.  Bridget Burke   Mar-27-06 12:38 PM   #75 
     - I'm not denying that Manifest Destiny was one reason  Ignacio Upton   Mar-27-06 01:26 PM   #76 
        - NOBODY is starting a war to "take back" the Southwest....  Bridget Burke   Mar-27-06 01:56 PM   #77 
        - I do not have a problem with Mexican simply being in Texas  Ignacio Upton   Mar-27-06 04:20 PM   #84 
        - Yes, I've heard that too, along with the Panama Canal and Venezuela etc  radio4progressives   Mar-27-06 06:00 PM   #87 
        - I'm not suggesting that we give land back to Mexico...  radio4progressives   Mar-27-06 05:59 PM   #86 
           - Historically-speaking, a secession movement is possible  Ignacio Upton   Mar-27-06 06:56 PM   #90 
  - Such is evolution - the better overcome the rest  The Straight Story   Mar-27-06 02:34 AM   #59 
  - Then let evolution take its natural course  RagingInMiami   Mar-27-06 03:13 AM   #62 
  - So, Are You in favor of Social Darwinianism ?  radio4progressives   Mar-27-06 11:07 AM   #70 
  - What I am in favor of does not really matter  The Straight Story   Mar-27-06 12:12 PM   #74 
     - Wow! Actually You did Answer the Social Darwin Question..  radio4progressives   Mar-27-06 05:17 PM   #85 
        - To me, Yes it is  The Straight Story   Mar-27-06 08:17 PM   #91 
           - yes.. but..  radio4progressives   Mar-28-06 11:43 PM   #118 
              - Pretty much  The Straight Story   Mar-29-06 01:26 AM   #122 
  - Social Darwinism is NOT Evolution  DrunkenMaster   Mar-27-06 02:02 PM   #78 
     - What is the difference?  The Straight Story   Mar-28-06 12:38 AM   #92 
  - Excellent post, Raging. I found myself cheering as  anitar1   Mar-27-06 04:00 AM   #64 
  - enjoyed your post  hfojvt   Mar-27-06 04:44 AM   #65 
  - Yes, Montezuma wasn't the most civil ruler  RagingInMiami   Mar-27-06 05:04 AM   #66 
  - Welcome to the United States  hfojvt   Mar-27-06 05:36 AM   #67 
  - The Story of Injustices Carries on through the Generations ..  radio4progressives   Mar-27-06 11:51 AM   #72 
  - self delete (factual errors of the Monroe Doctrine)  radio4progressives   Mar-27-06 11:15 AM   #71 
  - Yes, the Mexica were a rather bloodthirsty set of  igil   Mar-28-06 01:59 PM   #110 
  - Profound indeed  malaise   Mar-27-06 02:10 PM   #79 
  - As my wife would point out, it really isn't the Mexican's land either.  Xithras   Mar-27-06 02:30 PM   #81 
  - I've read that the Mexica's came down from what is now the SW USA  RagingInMiami   Mar-27-06 02:57 PM   #82 
  - No, that's folklore.  Xithras   Mar-27-06 03:25 PM   #83 
  - I never mentioned Aztlan, I know it's a mystical place  RagingInMiami   Mar-27-06 06:05 PM   #88 
  - sorry  VirtualChicano   Mar-28-06 03:28 AM   #97 
  - again you are misinformed  VirtualChicano   Mar-28-06 03:24 AM   #96 
     - And that proves what?  Xithras   Mar-28-06 01:15 PM   #109 
        - It proves you can no longer hide the truth from us.  VirtualChicano   Mar-28-06 08:33 PM   #115 
  - yes, this is true  VirtualChicano   Mar-28-06 03:18 AM   #95 
  - that's preposterous  VirtualChicano   Mar-28-06 03:15 AM   #94 
  - Is it possible that "chicanoforums" has it's own...  Zookeeper   Mar-28-06 03:32 AM   #98 
  - Isn't is possible  RagingInMiami   Mar-28-06 09:04 AM   #105 
  - Why are you scaring everyone with your foreign ways?  sfexpat2000   Mar-28-06 02:02 PM   #112 
  - Please read our mission statement  VirtualChicano   Mar-28-06 11:51 AM   #107 
  - I agree and so do the Western Shoshones who live nearby  NVMojo   Mar-28-06 05:26 AM   #103 
  - I disagree with your wife. I work for Shoshones and they talk about  NVMojo   Mar-28-06 05:24 AM   #102 
     - Are there similarities? Of course.  Xithras   Mar-28-06 12:58 PM   #108 
  - I'm descended from the wealthier spanish Mexicans and our land was taken  Trish1168   Mar-27-06 06:17 PM   #89 
  - Boy Howdy! What a hell of A Story!  radio4progressives   Mar-29-06 12:14 AM   #120 
  - I'm descended form  VirtualChicano   Mar-29-06 02:54 PM   #124 
  - Excellent and true rant! Thanks for posting!  NVMojo   Mar-28-06 05:12 AM   #99 
  - It is not a "crisis"..... It is Manifest Destiny  Mr.Green93   Mar-28-06 06:20 AM   #104 
  - El pueblo unido.  sfexpat2000   Mar-28-06 02:00 PM   #111 
  - Jamas Sera Vencido!  VirtualChicano   Mar-28-06 08:38 PM   #116 
     - Welcome to DU, hermanito.  sfexpat2000   Mar-28-06 09:36 PM   #117 
        - ty  VirtualChicano   Mar-29-06 02:17 AM   #123 
  - Did you just compare immigrants to shit?  Zhade   Mar-29-06 02:55 PM   #125 
 

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