| 75. Horrific and heartbreaking. |
| -Pat Tillman's Dad Suspects Killing was Intentional |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 10:29 AM |
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wow. |
BrklynLiberal |
Mar-21-06 10:30 AM |
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Believe he was killed in the same week as the Abu Grab |
NoAmericanTaliban |
Mar-21-06 11:26 AM |
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Absolutely. Hope his father hits the media big time!!! |
BrklynLiberal |
Mar-21-06 01:20 PM |
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Did they not like the guy? Anybody know? n/t |
splat |
Mar-21-06 10:32 AM |
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Not long after Tillman arrived at his destination.... |
MadMaddie |
Mar-21-06 10:33 AM |
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heard/read that as well... |
katty |
Mar-21-06 02:40 PM |
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what took him so long |
galatea |
Mar-22-06 07:50 AM |
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He was a very vocal about his disgust with the war... |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 10:41 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Mar-22-06 07:44 AM |
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He signed up for Afghanistan |
nonconformist |
Mar-22-06 12:34 PM |
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Chomsky never thought |
galatea |
Mar-22-06 02:20 PM |
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And the OPIUM ! |
omulcol |
Mar-23-06 02:33 PM |
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Just because Chomsky was one of his heroes.... |
Shakespeare |
Mar-22-06 02:40 PM |
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He would still be alive today |
galatea |
Mar-22-06 02:54 PM |
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He would have been a very high-profile war dissenter. |
Kurovski |
Mar-21-06 01:06 PM |
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I also believe he was executed and wonder why his family and the media |
bush_is_wacko |
Mar-21-06 08:31 PM |
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LOL!!! Thanks for the clarification. |
fooj |
Mar-21-06 08:37 PM |
#112 |
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No, they don't like dissent |
Brothaman2k |
Mar-22-06 01:32 AM |
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Tillman was against the Iraq boondoggle (n/t) |
coalition_unwilling |
Mar-21-06 02:50 PM |
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Yea, I am starting to believe Pat T was executed..... |
MadMaddie |
Mar-21-06 10:32 AM |
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could be, I don't dismiss any possible evildoing by BushCo---look at Plame |
wordpix2 |
Mar-21-06 02:27 PM |
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Tillman was going to be a HUGE threat to BushInc's power. |
blm |
Mar-21-06 10:32 AM |
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Holy Bat Shit gonna hit the fan soon.... |
opihimoimoi |
Mar-21-06 10:37 AM |
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Slow- walking the investigation |
OzarkDem |
Mar-21-06 10:39 AM |
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Gee, ya think? |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 10:39 AM |
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Sen Wellstone comes to mind. |
Blue State Native |
Mar-21-06 10:40 AM |
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Big time!! |
0007 |
Mar-21-06 11:39 AM |
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I still can't believe he is gone. Rat bastard **! |
Blue State Native |
Mar-21-06 08:21 PM |
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Bingo. |
Left Is Write |
Mar-22-06 04:20 PM |
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I hope that isn't a serious question |
madmunchie |
Mar-21-06 10:50 AM |
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I take it as a serious question. |
Blue State Native |
Mar-21-06 11:39 AM |
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The shame is that it's VALID to ask with this group of thugs. |
blm |
Mar-21-06 11:57 AM |
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Ugh, * has thousands dying to prove his ideology in addition to |
madmunchie |
Mar-21-06 05:15 PM |
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Hope you don't mind me jumping in here... |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 05:37 PM |
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Thank you, that is what I wasn't sure of. |
madmunchie |
Mar-21-06 05:59 PM |
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You're welcome! n/t |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 06:13 PM |
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Whenever it comes to BushInc I assume the worst of them, and eventually |
blm |
Mar-22-06 09:15 AM |
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Permit me to interject... |
nathan hale |
Mar-22-06 03:15 AM |
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And the stinkin media wasn't a threat either... |
sheelz |
Mar-21-06 12:46 PM |
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Because he was a Democrat. |
AX10 |
Mar-21-06 10:33 AM |
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Freaking 3 shots to the head |
dogday |
Mar-21-06 10:33 AM |
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Wouldn't that be very hard to do accidently? n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-21-06 10:38 AM |
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That's what I am thinking |
dogday |
Mar-21-06 10:46 AM |
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I'm believe they are all trained sharpshooters... |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 10:47 AM |
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Sure as hell sounds like it to me. |
fooj |
Mar-21-06 08:40 PM |
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That's an ug...cute...ummm....kitten. |
Sequoia |
Mar-21-06 10:47 AM |
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Could be tight shot group |
malmapus |
Mar-21-06 11:30 AM |
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That would be the M-4 more than likely... |
Stand and Fight |
Mar-21-06 03:39 PM |
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Yeah, I can't imagine Pat standing out either to make himself a better |
malmapus |
Mar-21-06 03:45 PM |
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Three rounds and not in burst? |
Stand and Fight |
Mar-21-06 10:40 PM |
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Any Soldier Knows - PAT TILLMAN WAS MURDERED |
OG Yankee Patriot |
Mar-22-06 04:32 PM |
#177 |
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Pat Tillman Murder Coverup - Link |
OG Yankee Patriot |
Mar-22-06 04:34 PM |
#178 |
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PAT TILLMAN WAS MURDERED |
omulcol |
Mar-23-06 02:48 PM |
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M-4 |
Aviation Pro |
Mar-22-06 04:10 PM |
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The whole time he was yelling "I'm Pat Fucking Tillman!" |
wicket |
Mar-21-06 12:49 PM |
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WTF Indeed... |
Peter Frank |
Mar-22-06 01:47 AM |
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a real tragedy |
sasha031 |
Mar-21-06 10:35 AM |
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I had read that elsewhere also. Noam Chomsky meeting nt |
OnceUponTimeOnTheNet |
Mar-21-06 10:41 AM |
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Why does Pat Tillman's dad hate America? nt |
bbernardini |
Mar-21-06 10:39 AM |
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Why did they burn his armor and uniform???? |
LiberalinNC |
Mar-21-06 10:40 AM |
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Why did they burn his diary? |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 10:43 AM |
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they said it had blood and was starting to smell---that's plausible |
wordpix2 |
Mar-21-06 02:20 PM |
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So because it smelled "bad" it's ok to burn evidence???? |
LiberalinNC |
Mar-21-06 02:22 PM |
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I read they burnt his armour right away too. |
kayice |
Mar-21-06 11:39 PM |
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Bullshit. |
Stand and Fight |
Mar-21-06 03:42 PM |
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That makes no sense - all battlefields smell |
yardwork |
Mar-23-06 07:18 AM |
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Typically, Rumsfeld has his priorities wrong. |
quiet.american |
Mar-21-06 10:42 AM |
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Unfortunately, the depths to which this administration sinks... |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 10:57 AM |
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He had meeting scheduled with Chomsky, said war "so fucking illegal" |
Minstrel Boy |
Mar-21-06 10:43 AM |
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Wow...new respect |
Lucky Luciano |
Mar-21-06 11:35 PM |
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Thanks for the link. Shame on those in this administration! Shame! |
liberalcanuck |
Mar-22-06 01:27 PM |
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OMG....the Truth can be silenced for only so long.... |
femrap |
Mar-21-06 10:44 AM |
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Impeach these fuggers |
malaise |
Mar-21-06 01:25 PM |
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He was killed for Propaganda! |
sheelz |
Mar-21-06 10:44 AM |
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And how about those mysterious deaths of Jessica Lynch's pals? |
joeunderdog |
Mar-21-06 11:38 AM |
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The problem is general public doesn't get the updated story. |
sheelz |
Mar-21-06 12:22 PM |
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thanks for the link, fascinating article - nt |
Nabia2004 |
Mar-21-06 04:38 PM |
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I didn't know about that, geez, is there no end?nt |
mirandapriestly |
Mar-21-06 06:35 PM |
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That's what I thought |
Sequoia |
Mar-21-06 10:44 AM |
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Of course, no one in the MSM |
genie_weenie |
Mar-21-06 10:45 AM |
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Unless one or more members of his unit were handlers. |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-21-06 10:47 AM |
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this was an above the fold NYT story |
cali |
Mar-21-06 06:43 PM |
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His refusal to be a poster boy infuriated someone. |
xultar |
Mar-21-06 10:45 AM |
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Makes you wonder if this was to silence Pat and also a |
Alamom |
Mar-21-06 10:51 AM |
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another Interesting article on this |
flblu2 |
Mar-21-06 11:04 AM |
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And with these revelations... |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 11:21 AM |
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didn't he hope to meet up with Chomsky in the states? |
leftchick |
Mar-21-06 11:09 AM |
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"Guns don't kill people.." |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-21-06 11:32 AM |
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I absolutely HATE conspiracy-nut stuff. But this? Makes me think. |
Redstone |
Mar-21-06 11:34 AM |
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I'm not a tin-foil hatter either... |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 02:08 PM |
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I just have a problem with the conspiracy theory |
land of the free |
Mar-21-06 04:29 PM |
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When he enlisted, it was huge news on all the MSM. |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 06:04 PM |
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I'm with you |
Brothaman2k |
Mar-22-06 02:31 AM |
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There's nothing 'nutty' about fragging |
Jacobin |
Mar-21-06 06:46 PM |
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An order from Rumsfeld, I'm sure.. |
MadisonProgressive |
Mar-21-06 11:36 AM |
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The question now begs the answer. Was Pat disliked by his |
0007 |
Mar-21-06 11:38 AM |
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Other |
underpants |
Mar-21-06 12:22 PM |
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Certain career Special Forces....yeah, I could see them doing it. |
kayice |
Mar-21-06 11:52 PM |
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This story breaks my heart. |
Octafish |
Mar-21-06 11:41 AM |
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Yours and mine Octafish |
wicket |
Mar-21-06 12:51 PM |
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Mine, too. He was really something special. |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-21-06 03:16 PM |
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This story breaks my heart. |
Octafish |
Mar-21-06 11:41 AM |
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I want to say his killing was a tragic accident in combat |
malmapus |
Mar-21-06 11:54 AM |
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Since I've never fired a gun in my entire life... |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 02:13 PM |
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Welcome, was kinda hoping some other DU vets might chime in |
malmapus |
Mar-21-06 03:07 PM |
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All it takes is one BFEE/CIA assassin, planted in the unit. |
RBHam |
Mar-21-06 03:55 PM |
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Yep, and have access to everything and anything. |
Kansas Wyatt |
Mar-21-06 08:55 PM |
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Who Killed Pat Tillman? |
RBHam |
Mar-21-06 12:14 PM |
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You see, you don't need DIRECT EVIDENCE of a conspiracy - |
file83 |
Mar-21-06 12:16 PM |
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Like father, like son. His son would be proud of him for risking his own |
glitch |
Mar-21-06 02:07 PM |
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Hear! Hear! |
radio4progressives |
Mar-21-06 04:27 PM |
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K&R. If there is a diary availalbe and it says this...OMf'ingG!!! n/t |
autorank |
Mar-21-06 12:32 PM |
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That diary would have been burned with everything else. |
blm |
Mar-21-06 01:10 PM |
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They definitely did not want his diary to become public knowledge. |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 02:25 PM |
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Here's the fake story cooked up by the DOD, as reported on 4/30/2004... |
KrazyKat |
Mar-21-06 12:48 PM |
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This kind of lying should be a prosecutable offense |
0rganism |
Mar-21-06 02:36 PM |
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I felt it was probably intentional from day one. |
Neil Lisst |
Mar-21-06 01:02 PM |
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why? When I read this article it seemed that Tillman could have been shot |
wordpix2 |
Mar-21-06 02:24 PM |
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OK now I've read earlier part of thread and see he was a dissenter |
wordpix2 |
Mar-21-06 02:27 PM |
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because he's the kind of guy someone will really hate |
Neil Lisst |
Mar-21-06 02:42 PM |
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That's some synchronisation. Even two bullets. |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Mar-21-06 06:59 PM |
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maybe on your home planet, but here on earth ... |
Neil Lisst |
Mar-21-06 10:11 PM |
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I didn't deny that some individuals might have hated him. |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Mar-22-06 08:47 AM |
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That'll teach him to back Kerry |
warrens |
Mar-21-06 01:27 PM |
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It wasn't just an execution - that can be made to look like an accident. |
glitch |
Mar-21-06 02:05 PM |
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OMG. |
VolcanoJen |
Mar-21-06 02:26 PM |
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Horrific and heartbreaking. |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 02:39 PM |
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They "Wellstoned" |
Raine |
Mar-21-06 02:53 PM |
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THEY DID KILL HIM...Rummy Cheney and Co. the Bush crime family needed |
Nimrod2005 |
Mar-21-06 03:56 PM |
#86 |
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My God, this is so f-ing sickening! |
SeattleGirl |
Mar-21-06 05:31 PM |
#91 |
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Good God. I generally run from conspiracy theories, but this one |
blondeatlast |
Mar-21-06 06:09 PM |
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Here's some substance. Conspiracy Fact. |
RBHam |
Mar-21-06 06:10 PM |
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I'm not a conspiracy theorist either... |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 06:15 PM |
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Most powerful question: "Why do you need to hide an accident" |
IsIt1984Yet |
Mar-21-06 06:12 PM |
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I wouldn't be surprised if they fragged him... |
PBass |
Mar-21-06 06:51 PM |
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One word: Bollocks. |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Mar-21-06 07:01 PM |
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99% chance Pat was murdered by the Imperial Family |
tom_paine |
Mar-21-06 06:45 PM |
#102 |
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By all accounts he was one of our best and brightest, a shame. |
Usrename |
Mar-21-06 07:46 PM |
#107 |
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This is very tragic...and it's a no brainer... |
TwoSparkles |
Mar-21-06 08:14 PM |
#108 |
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witness soldiers GOT THE MESSAGE....we'll take out anyone |
bobbieinok |
Mar-23-06 03:22 PM |
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And some US troops agree with Tillman's dad. |
LynnTheDem |
Mar-21-06 08:23 PM |
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Heartache on heartache. nt |
glitch |
Mar-21-06 08:46 PM |
#114 |
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Dons flame retardant |
walldude |
Mar-21-06 10:14 PM |
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If I understand right |
Chulanowa |
Mar-21-06 11:24 PM |
#128 |
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I still doubt they could have convinced soldiers to kill him |
walldude |
Mar-21-06 11:45 PM |
#133 |
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who "they"? You misunderstand. |
PBass |
Mar-22-06 12:37 PM |
#167 |
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Sorry still don't buy it. |
walldude |
Mar-22-06 02:23 PM |
#170 |
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He went to fight a war he DID believe in - I think |
Laurab |
Mar-22-06 12:25 AM |
#138 |
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Well as I've been saying I've spoken to other |
walldude |
Mar-22-06 02:26 PM |
#171 |
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Many of us have managed to recover from our High School traumas. |
Bridget Burke |
Mar-22-06 07:58 AM |
#157 |
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MAybe he was, I didn't know him but I still say |
walldude |
Mar-22-06 02:29 PM |
#172 |
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The title of your post isn't true |
cynatnite |
Mar-21-06 10:20 PM |
#118 |
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I'm beginning to think conservatives don't support the troops |
upi402 |
Mar-21-06 10:44 PM |
#120 |
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Ive always thought it was intentional |
Ksec |
Mar-21-06 10:50 PM |
#121 |
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I spoke up about this a good while ago and got accused of wearing a |
peacebaby3 |
Mar-21-06 11:04 PM |
#122 |
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Too hip for the crowd always needs aflame proof suit |
upi402 |
Mar-21-06 11:08 PM |
#123 |
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LOL! I've gone through a couple of flame proof suits on this board. n/t |
peacebaby3 |
Mar-21-06 11:18 PM |
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There is nothing in the article to indicate that... |
cynatnite |
Mar-21-06 11:14 PM |
#124 |
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I've read the reports, not just this article. There are some very serious |
peacebaby3 |
Mar-21-06 11:30 PM |
#129 |
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Army Rangers are expert shooters... |
cynatnite |
Mar-21-06 11:42 PM |
#132 |
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Sorry, Rangers are not that good. Even one of the best snipers wouldn't |
peacebaby3 |
Mar-22-06 07:17 AM |
#152 |
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You really can't prove intentions very well, huh? n/t |
upi402 |
Mar-21-06 11:52 PM |
#135 |
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No more than anyone can say it was intentional n/t |
cynatnite |
Mar-22-06 12:00 AM |
#136 |
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The father does not think it was gross negligence. |
lizzy |
Mar-22-06 05:28 AM |
#151 |
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wear it with pride |
rman |
Mar-22-06 07:53 AM |
#156 |
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Thank you for posting this. |
nicknameless |
Mar-21-06 11:16 PM |
#125 |
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No death is more painful than the death of a child |
ribrepin |
Mar-21-06 11:24 PM |
#127 |
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Lesson: US military is a right wing organization. No lefties need apply. |
Voltaire99 |
Mar-22-06 12:25 AM |
#137 |
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No, it is not |
cynatnite |
Mar-22-06 12:28 AM |
#139 |
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You're right about the numbers but that doesn't reflect |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-22-06 12:36 AM |
#140 |
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The policy makers are the politicians who run the country |
cynatnite |
Mar-22-06 12:57 AM |
#141 |
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"don't ask, don't tell" is not only weak but dangerous. |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-22-06 01:06 AM |
#142 |
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Not right at all. |
Voltaire99 |
Mar-22-06 02:35 AM |
#148 |
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GOP has 4 to 1 majority in military. |
Voltaire99 |
Mar-22-06 02:34 AM |
#147 |
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LOL |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-22-06 02:40 AM |
#149 |
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Diary burned. Uniform and body armor burned. This cannot go unanswered. nt |
oasis |
Mar-22-06 01:29 AM |
#143 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Mar-22-06 07:33 AM |
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Around here, we don't believe soldiers are "contract killers". That's |
peacebaby3 |
Mar-22-06 08:40 AM |
#158 |
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PeaceBaby, I understand why you object to labeling people who join the |
Trevelyan |
Mar-22-06 12:12 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Mar-22-06 12:17 PM |
#164 |
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In the end Pat will be demonized, his family destroyed. |
SunDrop23 |
Mar-22-06 11:15 AM |
#161 |
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This is so sad. I read the bogus "accident" story about a year ago in WaP |
Trevelyan |
Mar-22-06 11:25 AM |
#162 |
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kick |
wicket |
Mar-22-06 12:29 PM |
#165 |
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Conspiracy nuts! |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Mar-22-06 06:06 PM |
#179 |