| 54. Here's the fake story cooked up by the DOD, as reported on 4/30/2004... |
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...and picked up by USA Today. It's a complete and utter fabrication. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2004-04-30-... USA Today Posted 4/30/2004 Tillman posthumously awarded prestigious Silver Star By Billy House, The Arizona Republic WASHINGTON — Pat Tillman died while leading a team of Army Rangers up a remote southeastern Afghan hill to knock out enemy fire that had pinned down other American soldiers, the Army said Friday. The Army released details of the former Arizona Cardinals football player's death as it announced that he was posthumously awarded the Silver Star, its third-highest award for combat valor. Tillman, 27, and his team were initially not in danger from the hostile small-arms and mortar fire when the April 22 ambush began. But when the rear section of their convoy became pinned down in rough terrain, Tillman ordered his team out of its vehicles "to take the fight to the enemy forces" on the higher ground. As Tillman and other soldiers neared the hill's crest, he directed his team into firing positions, the Army said. As he sprayed the enemy positions with fire from his automatic rifle, he was shot and killed. The Army said his actions helped the trapped soldiers maneuver to safety "without taking a single casualty." <snip>
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| -Pat Tillman's Dad Suspects Killing was Intentional |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 10:29 AM |
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wow. |
BrklynLiberal |
Mar-21-06 10:30 AM |
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Believe he was killed in the same week as the Abu Grab |
NoAmericanTaliban |
Mar-21-06 11:26 AM |
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Absolutely. Hope his father hits the media big time!!! |
BrklynLiberal |
Mar-21-06 01:20 PM |
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Did they not like the guy? Anybody know? n/t |
splat |
Mar-21-06 10:32 AM |
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Not long after Tillman arrived at his destination.... |
MadMaddie |
Mar-21-06 10:33 AM |
#6 |
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heard/read that as well... |
katty |
Mar-21-06 02:40 PM |
#76 |
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what took him so long |
galatea |
Mar-22-06 07:50 AM |
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He was a very vocal about his disgust with the war... |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 10:41 AM |
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Name removed |
Mar-22-06 07:44 AM |
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He signed up for Afghanistan |
nonconformist |
Mar-22-06 12:34 PM |
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Chomsky never thought |
galatea |
Mar-22-06 02:20 PM |
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And the OPIUM ! |
omulcol |
Mar-23-06 02:33 PM |
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Just because Chomsky was one of his heroes.... |
Shakespeare |
Mar-22-06 02:40 PM |
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He would still be alive today |
galatea |
Mar-22-06 02:54 PM |
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He would have been a very high-profile war dissenter. |
Kurovski |
Mar-21-06 01:06 PM |
#58 |
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I also believe he was executed and wonder why his family and the media |
bush_is_wacko |
Mar-21-06 08:31 PM |
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LOL!!! Thanks for the clarification. |
fooj |
Mar-21-06 08:37 PM |
#112 |
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No, they don't like dissent |
Brothaman2k |
Mar-22-06 01:32 AM |
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Tillman was against the Iraq boondoggle (n/t) |
coalition_unwilling |
Mar-21-06 02:50 PM |
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Yea, I am starting to believe Pat T was executed..... |
MadMaddie |
Mar-21-06 10:32 AM |
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could be, I don't dismiss any possible evildoing by BushCo---look at Plame |
wordpix2 |
Mar-21-06 02:27 PM |
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Tillman was going to be a HUGE threat to BushInc's power. |
blm |
Mar-21-06 10:32 AM |
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Holy Bat Shit gonna hit the fan soon.... |
opihimoimoi |
Mar-21-06 10:37 AM |
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Slow- walking the investigation |
OzarkDem |
Mar-21-06 10:39 AM |
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Gee, ya think? |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 10:39 AM |
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Sen Wellstone comes to mind. |
Blue State Native |
Mar-21-06 10:40 AM |
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Big time!! |
0007 |
Mar-21-06 11:39 AM |
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I still can't believe he is gone. Rat bastard **! |
Blue State Native |
Mar-21-06 08:21 PM |
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Bingo. |
Left Is Write |
Mar-22-06 04:20 PM |
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I hope that isn't a serious question |
madmunchie |
Mar-21-06 10:50 AM |
#29 |
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I take it as a serious question. |
Blue State Native |
Mar-21-06 11:39 AM |
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The shame is that it's VALID to ask with this group of thugs. |
blm |
Mar-21-06 11:57 AM |
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Ugh, * has thousands dying to prove his ideology in addition to |
madmunchie |
Mar-21-06 05:15 PM |
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Hope you don't mind me jumping in here... |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 05:37 PM |
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Thank you, that is what I wasn't sure of. |
madmunchie |
Mar-21-06 05:59 PM |
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You're welcome! n/t |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 06:13 PM |
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Whenever it comes to BushInc I assume the worst of them, and eventually |
blm |
Mar-22-06 09:15 AM |
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Permit me to interject... |
nathan hale |
Mar-22-06 03:15 AM |
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And the stinkin media wasn't a threat either... |
sheelz |
Mar-21-06 12:46 PM |
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Because he was a Democrat. |
AX10 |
Mar-21-06 10:33 AM |
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Freaking 3 shots to the head |
dogday |
Mar-21-06 10:33 AM |
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Wouldn't that be very hard to do accidently? n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-21-06 10:38 AM |
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That's what I am thinking |
dogday |
Mar-21-06 10:46 AM |
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I'm believe they are all trained sharpshooters... |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 10:47 AM |
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Sure as hell sounds like it to me. |
fooj |
Mar-21-06 08:40 PM |
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That's an ug...cute...ummm....kitten. |
Sequoia |
Mar-21-06 10:47 AM |
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Could be tight shot group |
malmapus |
Mar-21-06 11:30 AM |
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That would be the M-4 more than likely... |
Stand and Fight |
Mar-21-06 03:39 PM |
#82 |
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Yeah, I can't imagine Pat standing out either to make himself a better |
malmapus |
Mar-21-06 03:45 PM |
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Three rounds and not in burst? |
Stand and Fight |
Mar-21-06 10:40 PM |
#119 |
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Any Soldier Knows - PAT TILLMAN WAS MURDERED |
OG Yankee Patriot |
Mar-22-06 04:32 PM |
#177 |
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Pat Tillman Murder Coverup - Link |
OG Yankee Patriot |
Mar-22-06 04:34 PM |
#178 |
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PAT TILLMAN WAS MURDERED |
omulcol |
Mar-23-06 02:48 PM |
#182 |
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M-4 |
Aviation Pro |
Mar-22-06 04:10 PM |
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The whole time he was yelling "I'm Pat Fucking Tillman!" |
wicket |
Mar-21-06 12:49 PM |
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WTF Indeed... |
Peter Frank |
Mar-22-06 01:47 AM |
#145 |
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a real tragedy |
sasha031 |
Mar-21-06 10:35 AM |
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I had read that elsewhere also. Noam Chomsky meeting nt |
OnceUponTimeOnTheNet |
Mar-21-06 10:41 AM |
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Why does Pat Tillman's dad hate America? nt |
bbernardini |
Mar-21-06 10:39 AM |
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Why did they burn his armor and uniform???? |
LiberalinNC |
Mar-21-06 10:40 AM |
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Why did they burn his diary? |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 10:43 AM |
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they said it had blood and was starting to smell---that's plausible |
wordpix2 |
Mar-21-06 02:20 PM |
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So because it smelled "bad" it's ok to burn evidence???? |
LiberalinNC |
Mar-21-06 02:22 PM |
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I read they burnt his armour right away too. |
kayice |
Mar-21-06 11:39 PM |
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Bullshit. |
Stand and Fight |
Mar-21-06 03:42 PM |
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That makes no sense - all battlefields smell |
yardwork |
Mar-23-06 07:18 AM |
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Typically, Rumsfeld has his priorities wrong. |
quiet.american |
Mar-21-06 10:42 AM |
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Unfortunately, the depths to which this administration sinks... |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 10:57 AM |
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He had meeting scheduled with Chomsky, said war "so fucking illegal" |
Minstrel Boy |
Mar-21-06 10:43 AM |
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Wow...new respect |
Lucky Luciano |
Mar-21-06 11:35 PM |
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Thanks for the link. Shame on those in this administration! Shame! |
liberalcanuck |
Mar-22-06 01:27 PM |
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OMG....the Truth can be silenced for only so long.... |
femrap |
Mar-21-06 10:44 AM |
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Impeach these fuggers |
malaise |
Mar-21-06 01:25 PM |
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He was killed for Propaganda! |
sheelz |
Mar-21-06 10:44 AM |
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And how about those mysterious deaths of Jessica Lynch's pals? |
joeunderdog |
Mar-21-06 11:38 AM |
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The problem is general public doesn't get the updated story. |
sheelz |
Mar-21-06 12:22 PM |
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thanks for the link, fascinating article - nt |
Nabia2004 |
Mar-21-06 04:38 PM |
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I didn't know about that, geez, is there no end?nt |
mirandapriestly |
Mar-21-06 06:35 PM |
#100 |
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That's what I thought |
Sequoia |
Mar-21-06 10:44 AM |
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Of course, no one in the MSM |
genie_weenie |
Mar-21-06 10:45 AM |
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Unless one or more members of his unit were handlers. |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-21-06 10:47 AM |
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this was an above the fold NYT story |
cali |
Mar-21-06 06:43 PM |
#101 |
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His refusal to be a poster boy infuriated someone. |
xultar |
Mar-21-06 10:45 AM |
#24 |
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Makes you wonder if this was to silence Pat and also a |
Alamom |
Mar-21-06 10:51 AM |
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another Interesting article on this |
flblu2 |
Mar-21-06 11:04 AM |
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And with these revelations... |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 11:21 AM |
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didn't he hope to meet up with Chomsky in the states? |
leftchick |
Mar-21-06 11:09 AM |
#33 |
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"Guns don't kill people.." |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-21-06 11:32 AM |
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I absolutely HATE conspiracy-nut stuff. But this? Makes me think. |
Redstone |
Mar-21-06 11:34 AM |
#38 |
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I'm not a tin-foil hatter either... |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 02:08 PM |
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I just have a problem with the conspiracy theory |
land of the free |
Mar-21-06 04:29 PM |
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When he enlisted, it was huge news on all the MSM. |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 06:04 PM |
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I'm with you |
Brothaman2k |
Mar-22-06 02:31 AM |
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There's nothing 'nutty' about fragging |
Jacobin |
Mar-21-06 06:46 PM |
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An order from Rumsfeld, I'm sure.. |
MadisonProgressive |
Mar-21-06 11:36 AM |
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The question now begs the answer. Was Pat disliked by his |
0007 |
Mar-21-06 11:38 AM |
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Other |
underpants |
Mar-21-06 12:22 PM |
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Certain career Special Forces....yeah, I could see them doing it. |
kayice |
Mar-21-06 11:52 PM |
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This story breaks my heart. |
Octafish |
Mar-21-06 11:41 AM |
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Yours and mine Octafish |
wicket |
Mar-21-06 12:51 PM |
#56 |
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Mine, too. He was really something special. |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-21-06 03:16 PM |
#81 |
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This story breaks my heart. |
Octafish |
Mar-21-06 11:41 AM |
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I want to say his killing was a tragic accident in combat |
malmapus |
Mar-21-06 11:54 AM |
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Since I've never fired a gun in my entire life... |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 02:13 PM |
#66 |
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Welcome, was kinda hoping some other DU vets might chime in |
malmapus |
Mar-21-06 03:07 PM |
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All it takes is one BFEE/CIA assassin, planted in the unit. |
RBHam |
Mar-21-06 03:55 PM |
#85 |
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Yep, and have access to everything and anything. |
Kansas Wyatt |
Mar-21-06 08:55 PM |
#115 |
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Who Killed Pat Tillman? |
RBHam |
Mar-21-06 12:14 PM |
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You see, you don't need DIRECT EVIDENCE of a conspiracy - |
file83 |
Mar-21-06 12:16 PM |
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Like father, like son. His son would be proud of him for risking his own |
glitch |
Mar-21-06 02:07 PM |
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Hear! Hear! |
radio4progressives |
Mar-21-06 04:27 PM |
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K&R. If there is a diary availalbe and it says this...OMf'ingG!!! n/t |
autorank |
Mar-21-06 12:32 PM |
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That diary would have been burned with everything else. |
blm |
Mar-21-06 01:10 PM |
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They definitely did not want his diary to become public knowledge. |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 02:25 PM |
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Here's the fake story cooked up by the DOD, as reported on 4/30/2004... |
KrazyKat |
Mar-21-06 12:48 PM |
#54 |
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This kind of lying should be a prosecutable offense |
0rganism |
Mar-21-06 02:36 PM |
#74 |
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I felt it was probably intentional from day one. |
Neil Lisst |
Mar-21-06 01:02 PM |
#57 |
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why? When I read this article it seemed that Tillman could have been shot |
wordpix2 |
Mar-21-06 02:24 PM |
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OK now I've read earlier part of thread and see he was a dissenter |
wordpix2 |
Mar-21-06 02:27 PM |
#73 |
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because he's the kind of guy someone will really hate |
Neil Lisst |
Mar-21-06 02:42 PM |
#77 |
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That's some synchronisation. Even two bullets. |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Mar-21-06 06:59 PM |
#105 |
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maybe on your home planet, but here on earth ... |
Neil Lisst |
Mar-21-06 10:11 PM |
#116 |
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I didn't deny that some individuals might have hated him. |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Mar-22-06 08:47 AM |
#159 |
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That'll teach him to back Kerry |
warrens |
Mar-21-06 01:27 PM |
#62 |
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It wasn't just an execution - that can be made to look like an accident. |
glitch |
Mar-21-06 02:05 PM |
#63 |
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OMG. |
VolcanoJen |
Mar-21-06 02:26 PM |
#71 |
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Horrific and heartbreaking. |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 02:39 PM |
#75 |
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They "Wellstoned" |
Raine |
Mar-21-06 02:53 PM |
#79 |
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THEY DID KILL HIM...Rummy Cheney and Co. the Bush crime family needed |
Nimrod2005 |
Mar-21-06 03:56 PM |
#86 |
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My God, this is so f-ing sickening! |
SeattleGirl |
Mar-21-06 05:31 PM |
#91 |
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Good God. I generally run from conspiracy theories, but this one |
blondeatlast |
Mar-21-06 06:09 PM |
#95 |
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Here's some substance. Conspiracy Fact. |
RBHam |
Mar-21-06 06:10 PM |
#96 |
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I'm not a conspiracy theorist either... |
NightOwwl |
Mar-21-06 06:15 PM |
#99 |
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Most powerful question: "Why do you need to hide an accident" |
IsIt1984Yet |
Mar-21-06 06:12 PM |
#97 |
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I wouldn't be surprised if they fragged him... |
PBass |
Mar-21-06 06:51 PM |
#104 |
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One word: Bollocks. |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Mar-21-06 07:01 PM |
#106 |
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99% chance Pat was murdered by the Imperial Family |
tom_paine |
Mar-21-06 06:45 PM |
#102 |
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By all accounts he was one of our best and brightest, a shame. |
Usrename |
Mar-21-06 07:46 PM |
#107 |
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This is very tragic...and it's a no brainer... |
TwoSparkles |
Mar-21-06 08:14 PM |
#108 |
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witness soldiers GOT THE MESSAGE....we'll take out anyone |
bobbieinok |
Mar-23-06 03:22 PM |
#183 |
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And some US troops agree with Tillman's dad. |
LynnTheDem |
Mar-21-06 08:23 PM |
#110 |
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Heartache on heartache. nt |
glitch |
Mar-21-06 08:46 PM |
#114 |
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Dons flame retardant |
walldude |
Mar-21-06 10:14 PM |
#117 |
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If I understand right |
Chulanowa |
Mar-21-06 11:24 PM |
#128 |
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I still doubt they could have convinced soldiers to kill him |
walldude |
Mar-21-06 11:45 PM |
#133 |
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who "they"? You misunderstand. |
PBass |
Mar-22-06 12:37 PM |
#167 |
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Sorry still don't buy it. |
walldude |
Mar-22-06 02:23 PM |
#170 |
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He went to fight a war he DID believe in - I think |
Laurab |
Mar-22-06 12:25 AM |
#138 |
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Well as I've been saying I've spoken to other |
walldude |
Mar-22-06 02:26 PM |
#171 |
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Many of us have managed to recover from our High School traumas. |
Bridget Burke |
Mar-22-06 07:58 AM |
#157 |
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MAybe he was, I didn't know him but I still say |
walldude |
Mar-22-06 02:29 PM |
#172 |
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The title of your post isn't true |
cynatnite |
Mar-21-06 10:20 PM |
#118 |
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I'm beginning to think conservatives don't support the troops |
upi402 |
Mar-21-06 10:44 PM |
#120 |
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Ive always thought it was intentional |
Ksec |
Mar-21-06 10:50 PM |
#121 |
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I spoke up about this a good while ago and got accused of wearing a |
peacebaby3 |
Mar-21-06 11:04 PM |
#122 |
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Too hip for the crowd always needs aflame proof suit |
upi402 |
Mar-21-06 11:08 PM |
#123 |
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LOL! I've gone through a couple of flame proof suits on this board. n/t |
peacebaby3 |
Mar-21-06 11:18 PM |
#126 |
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There is nothing in the article to indicate that... |
cynatnite |
Mar-21-06 11:14 PM |
#124 |
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I've read the reports, not just this article. There are some very serious |
peacebaby3 |
Mar-21-06 11:30 PM |
#129 |
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Army Rangers are expert shooters... |
cynatnite |
Mar-21-06 11:42 PM |
#132 |
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Sorry, Rangers are not that good. Even one of the best snipers wouldn't |
peacebaby3 |
Mar-22-06 07:17 AM |
#152 |
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You really can't prove intentions very well, huh? n/t |
upi402 |
Mar-21-06 11:52 PM |
#135 |
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No more than anyone can say it was intentional n/t |
cynatnite |
Mar-22-06 12:00 AM |
#136 |
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The father does not think it was gross negligence. |
lizzy |
Mar-22-06 05:28 AM |
#151 |
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wear it with pride |
rman |
Mar-22-06 07:53 AM |
#156 |
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Thank you for posting this. |
nicknameless |
Mar-21-06 11:16 PM |
#125 |
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No death is more painful than the death of a child |
ribrepin |
Mar-21-06 11:24 PM |
#127 |
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Lesson: US military is a right wing organization. No lefties need apply. |
Voltaire99 |
Mar-22-06 12:25 AM |
#137 |
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No, it is not |
cynatnite |
Mar-22-06 12:28 AM |
#139 |
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You're right about the numbers but that doesn't reflect |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-22-06 12:36 AM |
#140 |
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The policy makers are the politicians who run the country |
cynatnite |
Mar-22-06 12:57 AM |
#141 |
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"don't ask, don't tell" is not only weak but dangerous. |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-22-06 01:06 AM |
#142 |
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Not right at all. |
Voltaire99 |
Mar-22-06 02:35 AM |
#148 |
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GOP has 4 to 1 majority in military. |
Voltaire99 |
Mar-22-06 02:34 AM |
#147 |
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LOL |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-22-06 02:40 AM |
#149 |
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Diary burned. Uniform and body armor burned. This cannot go unanswered. nt |
oasis |
Mar-22-06 01:29 AM |
#143 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Mar-22-06 07:33 AM |
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Around here, we don't believe soldiers are "contract killers". That's |
peacebaby3 |
Mar-22-06 08:40 AM |
#158 |
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PeaceBaby, I understand why you object to labeling people who join the |
Trevelyan |
Mar-22-06 12:12 PM |
#163 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Mar-22-06 12:17 PM |
#164 |
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In the end Pat will be demonized, his family destroyed. |
SunDrop23 |
Mar-22-06 11:15 AM |
#161 |
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This is so sad. I read the bogus "accident" story about a year ago in WaP |
Trevelyan |
Mar-22-06 11:25 AM |
#162 |
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kick |
wicket |
Mar-22-06 12:29 PM |
#165 |
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Conspiracy nuts! |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Mar-22-06 06:06 PM |
#179 |