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Mon Mar-20-06 12:04 PM
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| 66. I don't find any of these positions |
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particularly difficult to comprehend. Sometimes I too think the rhetoric goes to far and harms our overall credibility. I still find myself somewhere in the middle...I believe Bush and Co HAVE committed war crimes, though it's doubtful they'll ever face any sort of real charges for it. For one, they knew enough to refuse to sign on to the World Court. How prophetic of them.
HOWEVER, I think there are valuable insights throughout the spectrum. Election fraud is an issue--how LARGE of one I cannot say. I want to tear my hair out every time I read a post which suggests "none of this matters...they can just steal the vote with Diebold...Diebold...Diebold..."
Same with the 9/11 conspiracy theories. We have MIHOP and LIHOP folks in abundance and, okay, I'll give them their space. I remember that day, when I got over my initial shock, my first thought was "how convenient."
I expected Bush to use it to his advantage. Whether his administration was complicit or not, he certainly ran with it just as I'd expected.
Personally I don't like DINOs in ANY state. They totally screw up the dialogue and stab their constituents in the back by voting against their interests. It's pretty shabby representation if they're willing to do harmful things just to get re-elected because the average voter is misinformed or too bound by ideology to even recognize where their own best interests lie.
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| -Sometimes I wonder if I'm "liberal" enough for DU. |
cali |
Mar-20-06 09:55 AM |
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Start your DU Journal and add this. I love this post! |
xultar |
Mar-20-06 09:56 AM |
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sometimes I wonder if ANYBODY on DU is liberal enough for DU. |
baby_mouse |
Mar-20-06 10:14 AM |
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I consider myself a left centrist, but I'm mostly left of the views posted |
The Backlash Cometh |
Mar-20-06 11:23 AM |
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Only *I* am pure enough to be an authentic DUer. |
QC |
Mar-20-06 12:59 PM |
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Somehow I doubt the ultimate authentic DU'er would take Dell over Apple. |
tasteblind |
Mar-21-06 02:01 PM |
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Nah. Just shows you have an open mind |
Armstead |
Mar-20-06 10:00 AM |
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Same here, because I'm basically a socialist with a major pragmatic streak |
blm |
Mar-20-06 11:59 AM |
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Same here. |
Odin2005 |
Mar-20-06 12:47 PM |
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The historic record is a HUGE factor in my overview of EVERYTHING. |
blm |
Mar-20-06 01:24 PM |
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It's a big tent and we need all kinds of viewpoints |
OKNancy |
Mar-20-06 10:01 AM |
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I'm sure many here agree with you on one or all of your points |
johnnie |
Mar-20-06 10:02 AM |
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There's no litmus test, as far as I can tell |
boobooday |
Mar-20-06 10:03 AM |
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Thanks. |
cali |
Mar-20-06 10:05 AM |
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Join the crowd. I've also been accused of trolling. |
Daphne08 |
Mar-20-06 11:20 AM |
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i dont have to be liberal enough for anyone. nor conservative enough |
seabeyond |
Mar-20-06 10:03 AM |
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You sound like someone who does their own thinking... |
Psephos |
Mar-20-06 10:03 AM |
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thanks very much. |
cali |
Mar-20-06 10:19 AM |
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Agree with you a lot here..... |
Sammy Pepys |
Mar-20-06 10:05 AM |
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Well..... |
quaoar |
Mar-20-06 10:08 AM |
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I, for one, agree with most of what you've stated. |
greyhound1966 |
Mar-20-06 10:08 AM |
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You are not as "liberal" as some, but more so than others; |
Dhalgren |
Mar-20-06 10:11 AM |
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Sometimes I wonder if DU is liberal |
FlaGranny |
Mar-20-06 10:12 AM |
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THANK YOU - I've tried saying this same thing many times but........ |
Minnesota Libra |
Mar-20-06 10:15 AM |
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Same here - thanks for a well conceived post |
dmordue |
Mar-20-06 10:15 AM |
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all those points are certainly debatable ;-) |
bpilgrim |
Mar-20-06 10:26 AM |
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Well, first thing to do is be consistant... |
Solon |
Mar-20-06 10:28 AM |
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Who was Roberts replacing? |
cali |
Mar-20-06 10:38 AM |
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FYI -- Roberts' scant record suggests he is WELL to the right of Rehnquist |
Czolgosz |
Mar-20-06 10:47 AM |
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I agree with you except on Roberts. Why didn't Leahy's vote trouble you? |
Czolgosz |
Mar-20-06 10:49 AM |
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I disagree with your characterization |
cali |
Mar-20-06 11:13 AM |
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I base this characterization on cases like Lawrence v. Texas, |
Czolgosz |
Mar-20-06 12:10 PM |
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My Senator was conned by Roberts. |
Buck Rabbit |
Mar-20-06 12:34 PM |
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We must hope that |
dogfacedboy |
Mar-20-06 04:05 PM |
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My problem is that Sandra Day O'Connor was replaced already... |
Solon |
Mar-20-06 10:48 AM |
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No. We replaced one moderate and one conservative with two agenda-driven |
Czolgosz |
Mar-20-06 12:19 PM |
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Fair enough. Those are excellent points and |
cali |
Mar-20-06 03:21 PM |
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For sure that's a lot of interesting debating topics |
rman |
Mar-20-06 10:37 AM |
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And another thing, don't lie about DUers when you post... |
Solon |
Mar-20-06 10:37 AM |
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I don't care if you shut up or don't |
cali |
Mar-20-06 11:25 AM |
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When you mentioned DUers blaming the U.S. for all the evils in the world, |
July |
Mar-20-06 11:46 AM |
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I don't see how you can possibly logically |
cali |
Mar-20-06 11:53 AM |
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Here...read your own words. Copied and pasted from the OP. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Mar-20-06 12:41 PM |
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Okay, so your original assertion came from the ether. |
July |
Mar-20-06 01:55 PM |
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While I don't agree a hundred percent with his post... |
Solon |
Mar-20-06 11:53 AM |
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You haven't even read the damn book and you are making a judgement on it? |
in_cog_ni_to |
Mar-20-06 12:38 PM |
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If everyone agreed on everything, it would be dull here. |
SmokingJacket |
Mar-20-06 10:38 AM |
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Two of my best online buds are Goldwater Repuglicans |
Warpy |
Mar-20-06 10:42 AM |
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I think that you are kosher, cali. Your gonna vote for Bernie, right? |
mdmc |
Mar-20-06 10:50 AM |
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Of course I'll vote for Bernie!!! |
cali |
Mar-20-06 11:44 AM |
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And you don't feel too liberal? |
mdmc |
Mar-20-06 11:47 AM |
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Mar-20-06 11:55 AM |
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I'm not DLC/PC enough... |
Yollam |
Mar-20-06 10:50 AM |
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DU is NOT supportive of the DLC. We have a handful of members |
in_cog_ni_to |
Mar-20-06 01:13 PM |
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I realize that. |
Yollam |
Mar-20-06 01:26 PM |
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Ah...gotcha! I love Dennis Kucinich too and Hugo Chavez is OK by me. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Mar-20-06 01:34 PM |
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Fred Phelps hates B*** too, you OK with him? n/t |
RGBolen |
Mar-20-06 03:48 PM |
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You're comparing a leftist president with a fundie psycho? |
Yollam |
Mar-20-06 04:20 PM |
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Mar-20-06 03:53 PM |
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I never wonder but |
mandyky |
Mar-20-06 10:51 AM |
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I just got flamed for not being a liberal cuz I condone random |
ourbluenation |
Mar-20-06 10:57 AM |
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Well, here is a parent who TOTALLY agrees with random searches of....... |
Minnesota Libra |
Mar-20-06 11:06 AM |
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glad to meet you! From my experience even really great kids do |
ourbluenation |
Mar-20-06 11:27 AM |
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EXACTLY!! nt |
Minnesota Libra |
Mar-20-06 11:42 AM |
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I happen to agree with you on the simple fact that |
BoneDaddy |
Mar-20-06 12:01 PM |
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I agree with you their... |
Solon |
Mar-20-06 12:04 PM |
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The topic of the thread was a new Federal plan... |
Bridget Burke |
Mar-20-06 12:36 PM |
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Don't Be So Touchy |
stepnw1f |
Mar-20-06 11:04 AM |
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Actually, I'm not at all touchy and I have |
cali |
Mar-20-06 11:16 AM |
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a lot of us aren't liberal enough for DU |
ginnyinWI |
Mar-20-06 11:07 AM |
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Mar-20-06 11:08 AM |
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Just a couple of things... |
theHandpuppet |
Mar-20-06 11:11 AM |
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Along with not throwing a couple of bucks DU's way |
Bluebear |
Mar-20-06 11:41 AM |
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I don't think that's fair. |
Dorian Gray |
Mar-20-06 12:21 PM |
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Um, just FYI |
Le Taz Hot |
Mar-20-06 02:49 PM |
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Calm down with the hot red face already |
Bluebear |
Mar-20-06 09:05 PM |
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You're fine I think, or we both should go, heh. n/t |
Jim4Wes |
Mar-20-06 11:20 AM |
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Excellent post |
WI_DEM |
Mar-20-06 11:33 AM |
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I don't march in lockstep either.... |
FredStembottom |
Mar-20-06 11:39 AM |
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Some constructive criticism... |
rucky |
Mar-20-06 11:39 AM |
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thanks |
cali |
Mar-20-06 11:50 AM |
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Correct me if I'm wrong... |
theHandpuppet |
Mar-20-06 12:02 PM |
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Labels are misleading. |
bvar22 |
Mar-20-06 11:39 AM |
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"Forget the labels. Where do you stand on the issues?" |
WesDem |
Mar-20-06 11:57 AM |
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I agree. Labels are misleading. |
cali |
Mar-20-06 12:00 PM |
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Well, we're even. I sometimes think I'm too "liberal" for DU. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-20-06 12:01 PM |
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nope. you're not liberal enough. |
leftofthedial |
Mar-20-06 12:03 PM |
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me too...but not for the same reasons |
anarch |
Mar-20-06 12:04 PM |
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I don't find any of these positions |
Mythsaje |
Mar-20-06 12:04 PM |
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We've been wondering about you, too |
Canuckistanian |
Mar-20-06 12:05 PM |
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I agree with you on some stuff, and disagree on other points, but... |
Vektor |
Mar-20-06 12:18 PM |
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You certainly are whiny enough. |
iconoclastNYC |
Mar-20-06 12:31 PM |
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Yawn. That is such a tired insult. |
cali |
Mar-20-06 03:38 PM |
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Right. |
iconoclastNYC |
Mar-20-06 04:15 PM |
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I didn't |
cali |
Mar-20-06 04:45 PM |
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why dont you just |
iconoclastNYC |
Mar-20-06 06:01 PM |
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I frequently argue my position |
cali |
Mar-20-06 07:11 PM |
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You're RIGHT, alrighty! |
stillrockin |
Mar-20-06 01:06 PM |
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LOL. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Mar-20-06 01:14 PM |
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LOL! |
Le Taz Hot |
Mar-20-06 02:52 PM |
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Weird. I think I'm too liberal for DU and don't post everything |
Cleita |
Mar-20-06 01:28 PM |
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I've been called a right-winger, even though I'm basically a socialist |
Yollam |
Mar-20-06 02:41 PM |
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IMHO, the real question(s) for DU are three-fold: |
coalition_unwilling |
Mar-20-06 01:39 PM |
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Your questions are for the liberals at DU |
msgadget |
Mar-20-06 03:21 PM |
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I'm not sure I understand your question, but I was |
coalition_unwilling |
Mar-21-06 01:58 PM |
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I think so too sometimes |
Marie26 |
Mar-20-06 02:35 PM |
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Aren't you just adorable? Yes, I agree with you & your wonderment! |
LaPera |
Mar-20-06 02:43 PM |
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Strangely enough |
Forkboy |
Mar-20-06 02:47 PM |
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"I wasn't troubled when my Senator (Leahy) voted for Roberts. " |
depakid |
Mar-20-06 02:55 PM |
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duuuude! |
blogslut |
Mar-20-06 02:58 PM |
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This isn't the first post of this type I've seen on DU |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Mar-20-06 03:03 PM |
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I am open to all viewpoints that help to eliminate the * administration. |
KitchenWitch |
Mar-20-06 03:40 PM |
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DING, DING, DING - and it takes all kinds to support that feat. |
blm |
Mar-20-06 04:32 PM |
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Odd, lately I've felt too liberal for DU... |
msgadget |
Mar-20-06 03:45 PM |
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uh, you're being liberal and sane |
Lexingtonian |
Mar-20-06 03:45 PM |
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I'm pretty open about being married to a Republican ! |
Catchawave |
Mar-20-06 03:47 PM |
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Is your account still turned on? |
Skinner |
Mar-20-06 04:49 PM |
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LOL, |
cali |
Mar-20-06 05:07 PM |
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boy, I read that wrong. I thought you meant, "oh crap, I thought I turned |
Thtwudbeme |
Mar-20-06 05:20 PM |
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I'm to liberal for you. I'm to conservative for you. I think your |
IsItJustMe |
Mar-20-06 05:08 PM |
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My response... |
bloom |
Mar-20-06 05:08 PM |
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While I don't necessarily agree with you, I certainly don't think you're |
Kerrytravelers |
Mar-20-06 05:10 PM |
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Why don't we complain that the summer time has flies. About the same. |
IsItJustMe |
Mar-20-06 05:34 PM |
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The problem isn't that we have too many RINOs |
lumberjack_jeff |
Mar-20-06 09:13 PM |
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Please don't let radicals like me bunch yer shorts! |
upi402 |
Mar-20-06 09:16 PM |
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I have my disagreements with some also |
Ksec |
Mar-20-06 09:20 PM |
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I think by far the majority of DUers are rational liberals |
RDU Socialist |
Mar-20-06 09:38 PM |
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Cali, I Agree With A Bit, Don't Agree With A Bit, But Give You 100% |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Mar-20-06 10:00 PM |
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a few points ... |
welshTerrier2 |
Mar-20-06 10:15 PM |
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