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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 07:30 PM
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72. The recognition that every new widget is paid for by...
some number of the finite hours of your life, is an epiphany.

I highly recommend "your money or your life" by Vicki Robin.

Take your salary, subtract the costs of obtaining it (transportation, costuming, training, etc). Divide that number by the hours you spend at work (or commuting to it, or thinking about it, or decompressing from it) and you have your real wage. Divide the cost of every shiny object you covet by this wage and ask yourself if that item is worth trading X hours of your life for.

By the way, if you're the primary breadwinner, remember that it's your life hours that are being traded for your spouse's standard of living. Only you can determine what's "worth it".

I'm lucky - my wife and I are both on the same page. Neither of us confuse standard of living with quality of life.
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  -If you could downsize your life. Would you? Earth_First  Mar-19-06 08:29 AM   #0 
  - I already have done some downsizing  MADem   Mar-19-06 08:32 AM   #1 
  - already doing it  AZDemDist6   Mar-19-06 08:34 AM   #2 
  - We are too..  SoCalDem   Mar-19-06 12:43 PM   #40 
  - You can downsize your life so if you want to go for it  dmordue   Mar-19-06 08:35 AM   #3 
  - The consequences can be good  auburnblu   Mar-19-06 08:38 AM   #8 
     - downsizing your career doesn't work  pitohui   Mar-19-06 10:37 AM   #17 
        - LOL about her thinking the professor job wasn't going to be stressful  electron_blue   Mar-19-06 12:27 PM   #32 
        - i don't think there are many less stressful jobs  pitohui   Mar-19-06 12:34 PM   #37 
        - This is not true.  Tesha   Mar-19-06 03:23 PM   #49 
        - but that isn't downsizing is it?  pitohui   Mar-19-06 03:25 PM   #50 
           - I'm pretty sure that, for the first few years, it was a *BIG* downsize!  Tesha   Mar-19-06 03:36 PM   #54 
              - i'm equally sure it wasn't  pitohui   Mar-19-06 07:21 PM   #67 
        - Yes, but there are more stressful and less stressful places to work.  crispini   Mar-20-06 08:18 AM   #80 
  - An interesting question for politicians  auburnblu   Mar-19-06 08:36 AM   #4 
  - I'm already halfway there  buddyhollysghost   Mar-19-06 08:36 AM   #5 
  - downsized  Pharaoh   Mar-19-06 08:37 AM   #6 
  - Done deal!  acmejack   Mar-19-06 08:38 AM   #7 
  - everyone else doesn't need to play  pitohui   Mar-19-06 10:34 AM   #16 
  - Excuse me?  acmejack   Mar-19-06 12:11 PM   #26 
  - it isn't a personal attack  pitohui   Mar-19-06 12:24 PM   #29 
     - I'm curious to know what authority you have to decide that a vegan  Veganistan   Mar-19-06 08:02 PM   #78 
  - Um...  Katherine Brengle   Mar-19-06 12:31 PM   #34 
     - a cabin with no car and no meat  pitohui   Mar-19-06 12:41 PM   #39 
        - Downsizing is not a is a way of existance...  Earth_First   Mar-19-06 01:49 PM   #44 
        - playing little shepherd girl a la marie antoinette is silly  pitohui   Mar-19-06 03:28 PM   #52 
           - Oh bullshit  Lorien   Mar-19-06 03:50 PM   #58 
           - agreed, that's exactly where we're at. we don't need a big house  AZDemDist6   Mar-19-06 04:46 PM   #60 
           - well goody two shoes for your mother  pitohui   Mar-19-06 07:23 PM   #69 
           - It sounds as though you have much more to let go of than some of us...  Earth_First   Mar-19-06 07:19 PM   #66 
           - How do you figure?  Katherine Brengle   Mar-19-06 07:26 PM   #70 
        - if NOT having those things is a conscious CHOICE, then how is...  Katherine Brengle   Mar-19-06 07:21 PM   #68 
           - MOST people do -- now you're starting to catch on  pitohui   Mar-19-06 07:28 PM   #71 
              - oh my god--are you even listening???  Katherine Brengle   Mar-19-06 07:48 PM   #77 
  - Ah  goreo8   Mar-19-06 01:39 PM   #43 
     - and how much environmental impact do you think his/her PC is making?  AZDemDist6   Mar-19-06 04:37 PM   #59 
  - Already have...and it feels great!  KzooDem   Mar-19-06 08:40 AM   #9 
  - In the summer of 2001,  H2O Man   Mar-19-06 08:45 AM   #10 
  - Oh, no....  renate   Mar-19-06 12:21 PM   #28 
  - Have been doing so for the last several years.  madmom   Mar-19-06 09:00 AM   #11 
  - I only have 1 auto and live in a 400-foot apartment.  BiggJawn   Mar-19-06 09:46 AM   #12 
  - No  sheelz   Mar-19-06 09:48 AM   #13 
  - Already there  supernova   Mar-19-06 09:59 AM   #14 
  - if i was any more downsized i'd be homeless and carless  pitohui   Mar-19-06 10:29 AM   #15 
  - Great points.  area51   Mar-19-06 10:58 AM   #22 
  - We've done some of that  gollygee   Mar-19-06 10:41 AM   #18 
  - reminds me of an old joke  radfringe   Mar-19-06 10:43 AM   #19 
  - I don't think I would be willing to quit my job and barter unless  kittenpants   Mar-19-06 10:48 AM   #20 
  - Any smaller and it would freaking vanish.  SmokingJacket   Mar-19-06 10:51 AM   #21 
  - not the farming part  flblu2   Mar-19-06 11:03 AM   #23 
  - I don't have to, shrubCo. has already done it for me.  greyhound1966   Mar-19-06 11:20 AM   #24 
  - Already Begun. Trying To Get A Head Start On Petrocollapse  loindelrio   Mar-19-06 12:11 PM   #25 
  - Honestly, no.  LeftyMom   Mar-19-06 12:17 PM   #27 
  - I don't think the question really applies to those who have...  Katherine Brengle   Mar-19-06 12:34 PM   #36 
  - Problem with that scenario is that it is too drastic for many people -  haele   Mar-19-06 12:25 PM   #30 
  - ok here's someone who gets it  pitohui   Mar-19-06 12:43 PM   #41 
  - Already have...  AngryOldDem   Mar-19-06 12:26 PM   #31 
  - No. Until It Becomes A Forced Emergency I Feel No Need.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-19-06 12:30 PM   #33 
  - Without a doubt!  Nutmegger   Mar-19-06 12:33 PM   #35 
  - already choice...  lanah   Mar-19-06 12:38 PM   #38 
  - simplicity  pitohui   Mar-19-06 12:48 PM   #42 
  - Already done it  GliderGuider   Mar-19-06 02:02 PM   #45 
  - Working on it. Got rid of the car. Stripped our STUFF down  sfexpat2000   Mar-19-06 02:09 PM   #46 
  - Been working towards it for years.  formercia   Mar-19-06 02:10 PM   #47 
  - I could certainly simplify  degreesofgray   Mar-19-06 02:12 PM   #48 
  - On SS disability. I have no choice.  alfredo   Mar-19-06 03:27 PM   #51 
  - yeah...this appears to be the privileged person's game EOM  pitohui   Mar-19-06 03:29 PM   #53 
     - According to Republicans, that's the only game.  alfredo   Mar-19-06 07:09 PM   #61 
  - I'm in the process of doing that now.  Lorien   Mar-19-06 03:38 PM   #55 
  - For the the vast majority of people the question is not "If you could.."  Clarkie1   Mar-19-06 03:41 PM   #56 
  - I've been seriously thinking about it....  WestSeattle2   Mar-19-06 03:43 PM   #57 
  - Sorry, I can't seem to get a job doing menial labor.  HypnoToad   Mar-19-06 07:12 PM   #62 
  - If I downsized any more, I would cease to exist  HeeBGBz   Mar-19-06 07:12 PM   #63 
  - My wife and I are at a major disagreement on this topic.  rucky   Mar-19-06 07:14 PM   #64 
  - The recognition that every new widget is paid for by...  lumberjack_jeff   Mar-19-06 07:30 PM   #72 
  - I have!  upi402   Mar-19-06 07:16 PM   #65 
  - We have been working on this!  Kerrytravelers   Mar-19-06 07:31 PM   #73 
  - I've done some of that already. We're a one car family and happy  Veganistan   Mar-19-06 07:35 PM   #74 
  - Hell yes. My footprint is already small.  tabasco   Mar-19-06 07:37 PM   #75 
  - Have done a reasonable amount of it.  politicat   Mar-19-06 07:43 PM   #76 
  - Kick  mandyky   Mar-20-06 08:08 AM   #79 
     - And again! I like this poll too.  Veganistan   Mar-20-06 02:02 PM   #81 

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