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Sat Mar-18-06 12:28 PM
Response to Reply #50 |
| 121. Maybe because Feingold knows that Impeachment Will Never Happen? |
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Edited on Sat Mar-18-06 12:36 PM by radio4progressives
Impeachment is not going to happen. period, end of story.
Let's say for arugment sake that suddendly the folks who own Diebold and Choicepoint and Seqoia and such are suddenly wanting for the Democrats to be in power - and promises to hand us a victory in the mid terms in November - and so we win all 15 seats in Congress that we're desperately eyeing to achieve.
Let's say, that none of the election results are challenged because the vote tabulations matched the polling - etc. So let's say Dems have a major victory in Congress, in November 2006.
Winter recess occurs, Congress begins their new session 2 1/2 months or so later in late January or early Feburary.
But wait! President Bush is still in office! He and Karl Rove and everyone else knows that we've been chomping on the bit to begin impeachment hearings immediately ...
hmm.
Think about this for a minute. Do you honestly believe that the puppet masters are going to allow our attention to be devoted to impeachment?
Given what these people have been doing, are doing, and are capable of doing, do you honestly believe that they're not going to do everything in their power to prevent impeachment proceedings to occur by invoking fear of terrorists strikes or other events to prevent this from occuring?
And even if the Bush Co does absolutely nothing to obstruct impeachment proceedings, (yeah right) given that these proceedings take so damn long, and obstruction by the White House is their M.O., before you know it, the next (2008) election cycle will be upon us, so focus and campaigning for that will be the order and priority of the day - the new mantra will be vote a Democrat into office, and "elections have consequences" will be preached .
I think Feingold knows very well that impeachment is never going to occur, even under a Democratic party controlled Congress, given all that he knows behind the scenes, and so the very least that should be done (and can be done) to hold this administration accountable, (and even possibly to mandate a Cease and Desist order) is to introduce a resolution to Censure.
The bottom line is a Democratically controlled House of Represenatives will not yield impeachment results and that's the long and short of it.
That sad reality will have other political implications that may eventually destroy the party, and they haven't even figured that out yet.
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| -Feingold Envy. |
JohnnyCougar |
Mar-17-06 02:19 AM |
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I have to recommend your outstanding post. |
hang a left |
Mar-17-06 02:23 AM |
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Me too. CALL AGAIN EVERYBODY!! |
ClassWarrior |
Mar-17-06 04:24 PM |
#49 |
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My Senators are both republicans. I already have their answer |
liberalpress |
Mar-18-06 07:33 AM |
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Whee |
Oversea Visitor |
Mar-17-06 02:23 AM |
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Looks like the weak talking point crew has retired for the night |
magellan |
Mar-17-06 02:33 AM |
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I totally agree with what Russ is doing. Let me play devils advocate: |
IsItJustMe |
Mar-17-06 02:56 AM |
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It would make him look weak and vulnerable. |
JohnnyCougar |
Mar-17-06 03:10 AM |
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The polls, or rather public opinion, is what it should be about. |
Usrename |
Mar-17-06 06:59 AM |
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I have also had deep contemplations regarding this statement. |
IsItJustMe |
Mar-17-06 07:32 AM |
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I think Russ is aware of this monster. |
Usrename |
Mar-17-06 07:51 AM |
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Well, I for one, know that Russ must have Benjamin Franklin in mind. |
IsItJustMe |
Mar-17-06 08:09 AM |
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Schoepehauer's 3 Phases of Truth comes to mind also ! |
EVDebs |
Mar-17-06 08:57 PM |
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Thanks so much for the link to Lapham's article! ....n/t |
WiseButAngrySara |
Mar-18-06 01:29 AM |
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Yes, I forgot to thank you. |
Usrename |
Mar-18-06 07:19 PM |
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Two... |
PassingFair |
Mar-18-06 10:43 AM |
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Congress allowed this fiasco with the two AUMFs |
EVDebs |
Mar-18-06 11:20 AM |
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A clarification |
dave29 |
Mar-17-06 10:21 AM |
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well said username... you've nailed it right on the head.. |
radio4progressives |
Mar-18-06 11:39 AM |
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Depends on the poll and how it's worded. |
smoogatz |
Mar-17-06 08:02 AM |
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Well, thats the problem. I would say that 70% of this country does not |
IsItJustMe |
Mar-17-06 08:17 AM |
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Nothing will happen as a result? |
Le Taz Hot |
Mar-18-06 10:55 AM |
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kick and recommended!!! |
Swamp Rat |
Mar-17-06 03:17 AM |
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Or |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Mar-17-06 09:43 PM |
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AMEN N/T |
APPLE314 |
Mar-17-06 03:29 AM |
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Today's Democratic motto - "just sit dow, shut up and take it" Be polite |
BigBearJohn |
Mar-17-06 04:07 AM |
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Time for Ted! You are the winning post! |
PassingFair |
Mar-18-06 10:45 AM |
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Hammer, meet nail |
JNelson6563 |
Mar-17-06 05:03 AM |
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It's not just democrats. Last week republicans were trying to distance |
B Calm |
Mar-17-06 05:07 AM |
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Or something worse. Perhaps they fear the CIC/executive branch will stand |
glitch |
Mar-17-06 11:44 AM |
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Well, |
cali |
Mar-17-06 05:14 AM |
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Both Conyers and Feingold have taken courageous stands on,... |
Just Me |
Mar-17-06 07:57 AM |
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Speaking truth to power, be assured that even if you stand alone |
EVDebs |
Mar-17-06 09:00 PM |
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Good analysis of the talking points |
Vinnie From Indy |
Mar-17-06 08:47 AM |
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Great post |
FLDem5 |
Mar-17-06 08:48 AM |
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You left out - Feingold attacking other Dems publicly |
MH1 |
Mar-17-06 09:36 AM |
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Concrete matters? |
Vinnie From Indy |
Mar-17-06 09:55 AM |
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Yet again, Feingold was right. Publicly right... |
jsamuel |
Mar-17-06 10:15 AM |
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Yes, someone must stand up for cowardice. |
Usrename |
Mar-17-06 10:20 AM |
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So, double standards are the new standard of Feingold supporters? |
MH1 |
Mar-17-06 10:54 AM |
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Free speech, you can say what you want. Just don't expect everyone to |
jsamuel |
Mar-17-06 11:50 AM |
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See the responses to this thread |
MH1 |
Mar-17-06 12:53 PM |
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Let me say: |
jsamuel |
Mar-17-06 02:04 PM |
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I don't get the double-standard. Really, I don't. |
Usrename |
Mar-17-06 12:31 PM |
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I was referring to the idea that Feingold is allowed to publicly bash |
MH1 |
Mar-17-06 12:47 PM |
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Oh, OK. I didn't quite make the proper connection there. |
Usrename |
Mar-17-06 01:40 PM |
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Don't you think we might consider the REASON |
PassingFair |
Mar-18-06 10:49 AM |
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Again, very well put. |
radio4progressives |
Mar-18-06 12:00 PM |
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With all due respect... |
JohnnyCougar |
Mar-17-06 01:05 PM |
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Heh. |
MH1 |
Mar-17-06 01:35 PM |
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"Cowards".. |
sendero |
Mar-17-06 06:18 PM |
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NObody? Thanks for Boxer, Harkin, Murtha, Conyers, Kucinich |
Mass |
Mar-18-06 05:51 AM |
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Yes Feingold gets a pass: Time and again. DSM, Alito - next, Kempthorne? |
MH1 |
Mar-18-06 06:40 AM |
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"(with only brief flashes of good)" |
sendero |
Mar-18-06 08:03 AM |
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Do you disagree that the Dems are acting like Cowards? |
radio4progressives |
Mar-18-06 12:04 PM |
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Here's what he had to say about calling them out: |
jane_pippin |
Mar-17-06 05:07 PM |
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Well, if that's his rationalization, |
MH1 |
Mar-17-06 05:45 PM |
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Can we get a copy of that list? |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Mar-17-06 10:01 PM |
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There was no "vote for war". |
MH1 |
Mar-18-06 07:28 AM |
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Correct. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Mar-18-06 10:36 AM |
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Here's a list for you |
MH1 |
Mar-18-06 07:43 AM |
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Ah, yes. The "We Were Misled" defense. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Mar-18-06 10:51 AM |
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Maybe you should tell these people they are wasting there time |
ProSense |
Mar-18-06 11:00 AM |
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??????? |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Mar-18-06 03:25 PM |
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Ah, so Bush's lies are irrelevant? Just because you and Clooney |
MH1 |
Mar-18-06 11:54 AM |
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Outrageous! |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Mar-18-06 03:23 PM |
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Thank you for the transcript, very on point .. |
radio4progressives |
Mar-18-06 12:10 PM |
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cognitive dissonance and false dichotemy |
radio4progressives |
Mar-18-06 11:57 AM |
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It's a sad day when doing the right thing is considered "grand standing" |
buddysmellgood |
Mar-17-06 10:04 AM |
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Thanks, absolutely! |
jsamuel |
Mar-17-06 10:12 AM |
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holding bush accountable is CLEARLY not on these Dem's minds |
leftchick |
Mar-17-06 10:17 AM |
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At least he made a stand |
ninkasi |
Mar-17-06 10:24 AM |
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K&R Excellent! We keep asking why the Dems Don't DO Something before we |
Trevelyan |
Mar-17-06 11:50 AM |
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70% of Democrats Support Censure - 48% All Adult Voters Support Censure |
radio4progressives |
Mar-17-06 01:40 PM |
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Well, according to certain people here |
DrGonzoLives |
Mar-17-06 02:07 PM |
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I really don't think this post is fair, at all |
WildEyedLiberal |
Mar-17-06 02:25 PM |
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When did I insult Kerry? |
JohnnyCougar |
Mar-17-06 03:14 PM |
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I think all we disagree on |
WildEyedLiberal |
Mar-17-06 03:23 PM |
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Thank you, JohnnyCougar!! I couldn't agree more!!! |
kiteinthewind |
Mar-17-06 02:29 PM |
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Impeachment points - most are transferable to censure |
pat_k |
Mar-17-06 03:02 PM |
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K&R |
iconoclastNYC |
Mar-17-06 03:25 PM |
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May I ask an explanation why those like me who are FOR censure are |
blm |
Mar-17-06 04:30 PM |
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I don't think so, how many times has he said "first step" |
jsamuel |
Mar-17-06 05:12 PM |
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He said censure and MOVE ON - he's not FOR impeachment. |
blm |
Mar-17-06 05:36 PM |
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I don't agree, he said "at this point" |
jsamuel |
Mar-17-06 05:40 PM |
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He SAID censure and MOVE ON - impeachment is wrong in a time of war. |
blm |
Mar-17-06 06:06 PM |
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Maybe because Feingold knows that Impeachment Will Never Happen? |
radio4progressives |
Mar-18-06 12:28 PM |
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Feingold said exactly the opposite: impeachment is bad for the country |
ProSense |
Mar-17-06 04:41 PM |
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Why didn't you bold this? - "certainly at this point" - that is important |
jsamuel |
Mar-17-06 05:15 PM |
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I forgot to bold this |
ProSense |
Mar-17-06 09:49 PM |
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"If the president changes course" is the key phrase for me here |
antigone382 |
Mar-18-06 12:22 PM |
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check in here to cheer RUSS |
FogerRox |
Mar-17-06 04:48 PM |
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Stand up for Russ!! Woot! Woot! Woot!! |
kiteinthewind |
Mar-17-06 06:16 PM |
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It's also a bit disingenuous when one of the longest threads |
karynnj |
Mar-17-06 05:39 PM |
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Kerry has been around longer- easier to find something to bash him for |
FogerRox |
Mar-17-06 08:05 PM |
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This time though - it was a new thing- backing Feingold |
karynnj |
Mar-17-06 09:05 PM |
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some still carry a grudge against Kerry-- which is why |
FogerRox |
Mar-17-06 09:21 PM |
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He has my support |
free_belmont |
Mar-17-06 08:13 PM |
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Yawn. Dem bashing is so tiresome n/t |
politicasista |
Mar-17-06 09:06 PM |
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Because I support all Democrats |
free_belmont |
Mar-17-06 09:46 PM |
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Oh wait... |
Vektor |
Mar-17-06 10:05 PM |
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if you don't support Bush |
free_belmont |
Mar-17-06 10:24 PM |
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Are you sure you mean me? |
Vektor |
Mar-17-06 10:31 PM |
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Really? |
Vektor |
Mar-17-06 09:13 PM |
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Lieberman is not a Democrat |
free_belmont |
Mar-17-06 09:34 PM |
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Wow... |
Vektor |
Mar-17-06 10:04 PM |
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except for Kerry |
free_belmont |
Mar-17-06 10:22 PM |
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Not really... |
Vektor |
Mar-17-06 10:29 PM |
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if you must know |
free_belmont |
Mar-17-06 11:45 PM |
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Zell.... |
Vektor |
Mar-18-06 12:17 AM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Mar-18-06 12:20 AM |
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You support Lieberman over Kerry? Good for you |
Mass |
Mar-18-06 05:36 AM |
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Lieberman is not a Democrat |
free_belmont |
Mar-18-06 11:07 AM |
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No chance? Surely you jest. |
MH1 |
Mar-18-06 12:06 PM |
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Lieberman is a Democrat |
free_belmont |
Mar-18-06 12:17 PM |
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I know, Johnny. |
Vektor |
Mar-17-06 09:15 PM |
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Thank you!!! I got tired of being labelled a freep for supporting Feingold |
NoodleyAppendage |
Mar-17-06 09:27 PM |
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K&R |
bvar22 |
Mar-17-06 09:47 PM |
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Feingold has stated he was concerned about his strategy being "blunted"... |
calipendence |
Mar-17-06 11:13 PM |
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His independence IS a problem for them, whoever 'they' are |
msgadget |
Mar-18-06 02:40 AM |
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Lots and lots of very dry powder |
upi402 |
Mar-18-06 12:21 AM |
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During Times Of Universal Deceit, Telling The Truth Becomes |
Beelzebud |
Mar-18-06 10:49 AM |
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You are wrong on #'s 1 and 2...and correct on # 3 IMO... |
SaveElmer |
Mar-18-06 11:47 AM |
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which Democrat do you think |
free_belmont |
Mar-18-06 11:58 AM |
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Another straw man...and more Hillary obsession... |
SaveElmer |
Mar-18-06 01:39 PM |
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I support someone else for 2008 (if he runs).....and I support |
FrenchieCat |
Mar-18-06 11:56 AM |
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Hi Frenchie! |
Vektor |
Mar-18-06 01:30 PM |
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Good, Good! |
FrenchieCat |
Mar-19-06 03:21 AM |
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