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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 03:32 PM
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10. I guess I disagree
because I've seen the Democrats on a National Level really make progress in opposing Bush in the last couple of years. Yes there are warring elements in the party, but on the whole I think Reid in the Senate, Pelosi in the House and Dean at the DNC have been very good and more and more democrats are taking on Bush and his agenda.
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  -Should I Give Up on my Party? NightOwwl  Mar-14-06 03:23 PM   #0 
  - I almost right behind you in line  Norquist Nemesis   Mar-14-06 03:26 PM   #1 
  - Thanks for the suggestion NN...  NightOwwl   Mar-14-06 03:52 PM   # 
  - NightOwwl, don't let the bastards get you down.  sfexpat2000   Mar-14-06 03:27 PM   #2 
  - Thanks for the kind words.  NightOwwl   Mar-14-06 03:30 PM   #6 
     - We hang together or you know what.  sfexpat2000   Mar-14-06 03:31 PM   #9 
  - I told them the same thing. Why should I give to them?  PVK   Mar-14-06 03:28 PM   #3 
  - I wrote and called my senators too, and I sent this to Dean-  Rose Siding   Mar-14-06 03:32 PM   #11 
  - But the fact is that even this board is split between the progressives  T Wolf   Mar-14-06 03:29 PM   #4 
  - True. The base is closer to our views than anyone elses.  xultar   Mar-14-06 03:31 PM   #8 
  - Not sure I agree with that. Most people are moderates...  progressivebydesign   Mar-14-06 06:08 PM   #82 
  - Oh fucking bullshit  WilliamPitt   Mar-14-06 03:35 PM   #13 
     - ...  xultar   Mar-14-06 03:38 PM   #16 
     - The Vichy Dems have had plenty of time to support him.  leftstreet   Mar-14-06 03:42 PM   #20 
     - Nowhere in there do I see the words  WilliamPitt   Mar-14-06 03:43 PM   #23 
        - And you're certain he didn't tell a soul what he was planning?  leftstreet   Mar-14-06 03:46 PM   #25 
           - He himself said he didn't on Sunday  WilliamPitt   Mar-14-06 03:48 PM   #27 
              - So what. He boinked the Dems without enough foreplay  leftstreet   Mar-14-06 03:52 PM   #30 
                 - They're pissed?  WilliamPitt   Mar-14-06 04:12 PM   #38 
                    - Remind me never to vote for you if you run for Congress  leftstreet   Mar-14-06 04:29 PM   #48 
                       - Your neighbors won't get to discuss it  WilliamPitt   Mar-14-06 04:40 PM   #52 
                          - But the cool thing is, my neighbors already are.  leftstreet   Mar-14-06 04:55 PM   #54 
                          - Why should he have not expected EVERY Democrat to jump on board  Generic Other   Mar-14-06 06:18 PM   #84 
                          - Feingold should have gathered support? From whom?  katinmn   Mar-15-06 12:12 PM   #102 
     - Will, can I ask you something? How do you know he didn't  sfexpat2000   Mar-14-06 03:43 PM   #21 
     - Besides the fact that Feingold himself said on Sunday  WilliamPitt   Mar-14-06 03:45 PM   #24 
        - Okay. I wonder though if this whole "Feingold didn't share"  sfexpat2000   Mar-14-06 03:55 PM   #32 
     - Thank you...  SaveElmer   Mar-14-06 03:57 PM   #33 
     - If that hadn't been the excuse, Kerry would've found another one  mycritters2   Mar-14-06 04:13 PM   #39 
        - He is probably going to support it...  SaveElmer   Mar-14-06 04:15 PM   #40 
        - Rilly?  WilliamPitt   Mar-14-06 04:28 PM   #46 
     - I guess the question I keep coming to on this is...  calipendence   Mar-14-06 04:24 PM   #43 
     - He said "I didn't show it to any other Senators"  WilliamPitt   Mar-14-06 04:27 PM   #44 
        - I'm talking about not this specific proposal...  calipendence   Mar-14-06 04:35 PM   #50 
     - Not the only Person who can flame...  LeftHander   Mar-15-06 11:21 AM   #100 
        - Thank you. My sentiments exactly.  katinmn   Mar-15-06 12:23 PM   #105 
        - So what exactly are you doing about it?  WilliamPitt   Mar-15-06 12:36 PM   #106 
           - Many things...my friend....  LeftHander   Mar-15-06 02:31 PM   #107 
  - Sure. Why not? They've done absolutely nothing and have done  xultar   Mar-14-06 03:29 PM   #5 
  - where will you go?  pocket   Mar-14-06 03:31 PM   #7 
  - No where. Sit on my ass. RELAX for a fuckin change. I'm tired  xultar   Mar-14-06 03:34 PM   #12 
  - I'm with you. I will probably vote Dem even though I don't want to.  readmoreoften   Mar-14-06 06:01 PM   #75 
  - There is the strong possibility that many of us life-long Dems will just  T Wolf   Mar-14-06 03:36 PM   #14 
  - Maybe they have to hit rock-bottom before they wake up...  NightOwwl   Mar-14-06 03:41 PM   #19 
  - Yeah, why don't we lead a united front for Progressives. WE SIT OUT  xultar   Mar-14-06 03:43 PM   #22 
  - That's the classic response, n'est-ce pas?  mycritters2   Mar-14-06 04:15 PM   #41 
     - great, cut your own throat  pocket   Mar-14-06 05:30 PM   #64 
  - xultar, over the past 6 years, Dems have  Skidmore   Mar-14-06 03:37 PM   #15 
  - I guess I disagree  WI_DEM   Mar-14-06 03:32 PM   #10 
  - Please elaborate!?  amBushed   Mar-14-06 03:46 PM   #26 
  - What about...  converted_democrat   Mar-14-06 05:36 PM   #67 
  - Vote issues, not party.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Mar-14-06 03:38 PM   #17 
  - Don't they realize? THIS IS THEIR CHANCE!!!!  SongOfTheRayne   Mar-14-06 03:40 PM   #18 
  - Maybe all Progressives should join the Green Party?  Disturbed   Mar-14-06 03:55 PM   #31 
     - I'm a Green and this seems to me a very BAD TIME to  sfexpat2000   Mar-14-06 04:01 PM   #34 
     - I don't want to split to the Green Party away from Dems any more than you.  calipendence   Mar-14-06 04:28 PM   #45 
        - First, let's remember DU rules. We don't work against Dems here.  sfexpat2000   Mar-14-06 04:52 PM   #53 
           - I want a Democratic Party that is truely for progressive values!  calipendence   Mar-14-06 05:49 PM   #70 
     - Maybe we should work to build a Democratic party  pinto   Mar-14-06 05:57 PM   #73 
        - In all the fuss, I didn't see this. I think you're right, Pinto.  sfexpat2000   Mar-15-06 04:18 PM   #109 
  - I won't give up, because I'm a DEMOCRAT  OKNancy   Mar-14-06 03:49 PM   #28 
  - I've done a lot more than sit and complain.  NightOwwl   Mar-14-06 04:03 PM   #35 
  - Well there are two roads  SomewhereOutThere424   Mar-14-06 03:51 PM   #29 
  - We need to lead.  sfexpat2000   Mar-14-06 04:04 PM   #36 
  - How long have you been here at DU? And now you're writing  0007   Mar-14-06 04:08 PM   #37 
  - Please let's try to remember, people are tired.  sfexpat2000   Mar-14-06 04:24 PM   #42 
  - You can check my profile to see how long I've been with DU.  NightOwwl   Mar-14-06 04:29 PM   #47 
     - You sound like a typical front runner. So if things don't go your way  0007   Mar-14-06 05:24 PM   #59 
        - People, please, settle. We have real bad stuff to deal with.  sfexpat2000   Mar-14-06 05:26 PM   #61 
        - What is the matter with you?  NightOwwl   Mar-14-06 05:29 PM   #63 
           - Don't take it personally. People are upset.  sfexpat2000   Mar-14-06 05:36 PM   #66 
           - You're right.  NightOwwl   Mar-14-06 05:45 PM   #68 
              - Yes, thank god for them.  sfexpat2000   Mar-14-06 05:58 PM   #74 
           - When I get hostile you'll know it and I'm far from upset;  0007   Mar-14-06 05:53 PM   #72 
              - I didn't mean to insult you, Midland. Not at all.  sfexpat2000   Mar-14-06 06:04 PM   #79 
                 - I undersand. No harm!  0007   Mar-14-06 06:35 PM   #88 
  - no, work to change it,  hippiegranny   Mar-14-06 04:31 PM   #49 
  - The question is: cowardice, or collaboration?  Raydawg1234   Mar-14-06 04:40 PM   #51 
  - Or blackmail, I wonder in some instances...  readmoreoften   Mar-14-06 06:03 PM   #78 
  - I have to say, I do agree with most of what you're saying..  converted_democrat   Mar-14-06 05:08 PM   #55 
  - So many of us are desperate for our voices to be heard.  NightOwwl   Mar-14-06 05:24 PM   #60 
  - No. Putting your efforts in 2006, state and local elections  pinto   Mar-14-06 05:12 PM   #56 
  - To quote the late Bill Hicks:  Ufomammut   Mar-14-06 05:14 PM   #57 
  - Bill Hicks.  sfexpat2000   Mar-14-06 05:17 PM   #58 
  - Here's the real question - who do you turn to now?  Rex   Mar-14-06 05:29 PM   #62 
  - We turn to ourselves. We have to be the strong ones, it's our job  sfexpat2000   Mar-14-06 05:33 PM   #65 
  - "Stopping Bush & Co"?!!  mycritters2   Mar-15-06 11:01 AM   #95 
  - Problem IS, the elctions are bought and paid for nowadays anyway.  PetraPooh   Mar-14-06 05:48 PM   #69 
  - The Democratic Party dedicates this song to NightOwwl ...  Neil Lisst   Mar-14-06 05:52 PM   #71 
  - Ah shucks...  NightOwwl   Mar-14-06 06:20 PM   #86 
  - Ya, give up. I really enjoy being ruled by the republicans.  progressivebydesign   Mar-14-06 06:02 PM   #76 
  - Okay but moderate isn't moderate anymore...  readmoreoften   Mar-14-06 06:37 PM   #89 
  - WE are the party.  Gregorian   Mar-14-06 06:03 PM   #77 
  - my moment was the Alito Non filibuster  leftchick   Mar-14-06 06:08 PM   #80 
  - That was my moment too....  Pachamama   Mar-14-06 08:11 PM   #93 
     - How Are you Pachamama?  leftchick   Mar-14-06 08:23 PM   #94 
  - Oh Great. All We Need. Yet Another Last Straw Thread.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-14-06 06:08 PM   #81 
  - Good On You  stepnw1f   Mar-14-06 06:21 PM   #87 
  - They signed the Patriot Act without reading it...  Beelzebud   Mar-15-06 11:10 AM   #99 
  - Who said anything about the Green Party?  NightOwwl   Mar-15-06 03:54 PM   #108 
  - I still ask that question daily, and I say....NOT YET!!! n/t  U4ikLefty   Mar-14-06 06:09 PM   #83 
  - No You Shouldn't NightOwwl... because you are the Party  stepnw1f   Mar-14-06 06:20 PM   #85 
  - I will never give up. nt  skipos   Mar-14-06 06:38 PM   #90 
  - your post reminds me of the Boondocks comedy fella  OnceUponTimeOnTheNet   Mar-14-06 06:43 PM   #91 
  - Ask a different question: is your Party earning your loyalty?  Orsino   Mar-14-06 06:44 PM   #92 
  - never give up, change the party by getting involved at precinct level  harpo   Mar-15-06 11:02 AM   #96 
  - I'm feeling many of the same things... It's hard to support them  Beelzebud   Mar-15-06 11:05 AM   #97 
  - If you have to ask... n/t  tasteblind   Mar-15-06 11:06 AM   #98 
  - I have a vision of what my Democratic party is...  Acebass   Mar-15-06 12:00 PM   #101 
  - WHEN IS MY VOICE AND THE VOICE OF OTHER LOYAL DEMOCRATS GOING TO BE HEARD?  Greeby   Mar-15-06 12:15 PM   #103 
  - When?  WilliamPitt   Mar-15-06 06:49 PM   #110 
  - Explore new avenues of change.  rucky   Mar-15-06 12:16 PM   #104 
 

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