bryant69
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Tue Mar-14-06 09:41 AM
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| 11. What is your goal in this discussion? |
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I mean what is your thesis? That without christianity, there would be no Hitler? Bryant Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com |
| -Hitler & Christianity, help needed |
NewJeffCT |
Mar-14-06 09:04 AM |
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check Amazon |
glaeken777 |
Mar-14-06 09:06 AM |
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I agree with your friend and the evidence supporting it |
YOY |
Mar-14-06 09:08 AM |
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Yes, I completely agree |
CornField |
Mar-14-06 09:15 AM |
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which doesn't say much for the Christians who allowed this to happen |
Iris |
Mar-14-06 09:42 AM |
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If you want to call them Christians at all... |
YOY |
Mar-14-06 08:32 PM |
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Your friend is right |
LostinVA |
Mar-14-06 09:45 AM |
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Try these |
acmejack |
Mar-14-06 09:08 AM |
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Good resource |
deutsey |
Mar-14-06 09:16 AM |
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I had used that one |
NewJeffCT |
Mar-14-06 11:16 AM |
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Check this website. Al the photographic evidence you would want.. |
gordianot |
Mar-14-06 09:15 AM |
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AFIK, starated out as a nice Catholic boy, then... |
TreasonousBastard |
Mar-14-06 09:28 AM |
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wasn't a very good Catholic |
glaeken777 |
Mar-14-06 09:36 AM |
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Toward the end he sure wasn't. |
TreasonousBastard |
Mar-14-06 09:39 AM |
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I think that this is a great |
Dorian Gray |
Mar-14-06 09:49 AM |
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Hitler vs. Bonhoeffer (cheap grace vs. costly grace) |
deutsey |
Mar-14-06 09:31 AM |
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What is your goal in this discussion? |
bryant69 |
Mar-14-06 09:41 AM |
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No, not at all |
NewJeffCT |
Mar-14-06 11:22 AM |
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It really comes down to "good Christian" vs. "bad Christian." |
trotsky |
Mar-14-06 09:42 AM |
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sorta |
glaeken777 |
Mar-14-06 09:51 AM |
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It all depends on what one views as a "sin," now doesn't it? |
trotsky |
Mar-14-06 10:26 AM |
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I think that what people |
Dorian Gray |
Mar-14-06 09:52 AM |
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Christianity already includes elements of Paganism. |
trotsky |
Mar-14-06 10:29 AM |
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I would never claim to be the arbiter of what is "real" Christianity. |
Dorian Gray |
Mar-14-06 12:43 PM |
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I see your reasoning basically following two lines: |
trotsky |
Mar-14-06 01:00 PM |
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No... |
Dorian Gray |
Mar-14-06 02:31 PM |
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Well, I am coming from the state of mind of a non-Christian. |
trotsky |
Mar-14-06 02:55 PM |
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Yeah if that were the whole argument against Hitlers |
bryant69 |
Mar-14-06 09:52 AM |
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The fundamental issue is, we can never know for certain. |
trotsky |
Mar-14-06 10:47 AM |
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Yes and no |
bryant69 |
Mar-14-06 11:25 AM |
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There's a point being missed. |
trotsky |
Mar-14-06 12:03 PM |
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Fair enough. |
bryant69 |
Mar-14-06 01:06 PM |
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I think the argument is still the same, |
trotsky |
Mar-14-06 01:31 PM |
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The argument isn't the same |
bryant69 |
Mar-14-06 01:41 PM |
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I don't hold Christianity responsible for the Holocaust. |
trotsky |
Mar-14-06 01:54 PM |
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They aren't in my mind |
bryant69 |
Mar-14-06 02:19 PM |
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So we're back to where we started. |
trotsky |
Mar-14-06 02:57 PM |
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I haven't claimed anything at all. |
bryant69 |
Mar-14-06 03:06 PM |
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Don't be so sure about Lincoln... ;-) |
trotsky |
Mar-14-06 03:41 PM |
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Look... |
misternormal |
Mar-14-06 09:36 PM |
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I don't think you and your friend |
cali |
Mar-14-06 09:58 AM |
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I agree that we're not far apart |
NewJeffCT |
Mar-14-06 08:38 PM |
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. |
hootinholler |
Mar-14-06 10:13 AM |
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Read "The Holy Reich": |
moobu2 |
Mar-14-06 10:24 AM |
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thanks |
NewJeffCT |
Mar-14-06 11:33 AM |
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just the book I was looking for - thank you - nt |
Nabia2004 |
Mar-18-06 10:17 AM |
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I doubt that a sociopath like Hitler was capable of any genuine |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Mar-14-06 10:27 AM |
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I had friends that argued that the Puritans kept a Saturday sabbath. |
igil |
Mar-14-06 10:56 AM |
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Facism + Christianity |
Khaotic |
Mar-14-06 01:16 PM |
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What is Facism? |
RDU Socialist |
Mar-14-06 02:30 PM |
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Hitler, like Stalin, hated religion |
RDU Socialist |
Mar-14-06 02:28 PM |
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That would go against what was posted above |
NewJeffCT |
Mar-14-06 02:32 PM |
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the discussion pertains to Hitler |
RDU Socialist |
Mar-14-06 03:00 PM |
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I should have said... |
NewJeffCT |
Mar-14-06 08:48 PM |
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well, I should have said |
NewJeffCT |
Mar-14-06 08:30 PM |
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The really appalling thing is the cooperation of the churches. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-14-06 02:41 PM |
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Hitler capitalized on his Christian population, but he wasn't Christian. |
Xithras |
Mar-14-06 03:48 PM |
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Banned Xianity from schools, my ass |
onager |
Mar-14-06 08:39 PM |
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He also said; |
Dunedain |
Mar-14-06 09:32 PM |
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Source? |
onager |
Mar-16-06 12:32 AM |
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He was as schizophrenic with this subject as anything else. |
Xithras |
Mar-16-06 02:42 PM |
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There's a picture of Hitler exiting a church. That proves he was devout. |
Inland |
Mar-14-06 08:45 PM |
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I was raised Catholic |
RDU Socialist |
Mar-14-06 08:57 PM |
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Yeah, that was the sarcasm part. |
Inland |
Mar-14-06 09:01 PM |
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So the "Gott ist mitt uns" on the SS belt buckles were... |
Disturbed |
Mar-14-06 09:14 PM |
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No, they were Hitler's devout prayers. He blessed them himself |
Inland |
Mar-14-06 09:21 PM |
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It sounds to me as if you two basically agree? |
Katherine Brengle |
Mar-14-06 09:02 PM |
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See the Straight Dope: |
The Straight Story |
Mar-14-06 09:15 PM |
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Before we start hanging swastikas and iron crosses... |
misternormal |
Mar-14-06 09:26 PM |
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that was part of my original response |
NewJeffCT |
Mar-14-06 09:48 PM |
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Check Wikipedia |
Texacrat |
Mar-14-06 09:31 PM |
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You can't really prove whether Hitler was or wasn't a Christian... |
antigone382 |
Mar-14-06 09:54 PM |
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here is an interesting article about a relic of that notion: |
Kellanved |
Mar-15-06 11:36 AM |
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Hitler was raised as a Roman Catholic |
Jack Rabbit |
Mar-15-06 11:40 AM |
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He used it like bush. |
mmonk |
Mar-15-06 11:41 AM |
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I tracked down my hard copies of an article in "Free Inquiry" |
Theduckno2 |
Mar-16-06 01:01 AM |
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Invoking religion NOT unique to Hitler!!! - Move along... |
hexola |
Mar-16-06 06:25 AM |
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Hitler was not a Christian... |
PhilipShore |
Mar-16-06 07:00 AM |
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