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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:28 AM
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7. AFIK, starated out as a nice Catholic boy, then...
became involved with some sort of wierd neo-Pagan nonsense that a few of his henchmen fell into mixed in with Chritianity.

I don't think anyone really understands just what he thought about God, religion, or anything spritual toward the end, but he freely used Christian catchwords and symbolism to move the people. I personally think he kept some childhood beliefs, but perverted them.



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  -Hitler & Christianity, help needed NewJeffCT  Mar-14-06 09:04 AM   #0 
  - check Amazon  glaeken777   Mar-14-06 09:06 AM   #1 
  - I agree with your friend and the evidence supporting it  YOY   Mar-14-06 09:08 AM   #2 
  - Yes, I completely agree  CornField   Mar-14-06 09:15 AM   #4 
  - which doesn't say much for the Christians who allowed this to happen  Iris   Mar-14-06 09:42 AM   #13 
  - If you want to call them Christians at all...  YOY   Mar-14-06 08:32 PM   #52 
  - Your friend is right  LostinVA   Mar-14-06 09:45 AM   #14 
  - Try these  acmejack   Mar-14-06 09:08 AM   #3 
  - Good resource  deutsey   Mar-14-06 09:16 AM   #6 
  - I had used that one  NewJeffCT   Mar-14-06 11:16 AM   #27 
  - Check this website. Al the photographic evidence you would want..  gordianot   Mar-14-06 09:15 AM   #5 
  - AFIK, starated out as a nice Catholic boy, then...  TreasonousBastard   Mar-14-06 09:28 AM   #7 
  - wasn't a very good Catholic  glaeken777   Mar-14-06 09:36 AM   #9 
  - Toward the end he sure wasn't.  TreasonousBastard   Mar-14-06 09:39 AM   #10 
  - I think that this is a great  Dorian Gray   Mar-14-06 09:49 AM   #15 
  - Hitler vs. Bonhoeffer (cheap grace vs. costly grace)  deutsey   Mar-14-06 09:31 AM   #8 
  - What is your goal in this discussion?  bryant69   Mar-14-06 09:41 AM   #11 
  - No, not at all  NewJeffCT   Mar-14-06 11:22 AM   #28 
  - It really comes down to "good Christian" vs. "bad Christian."  trotsky   Mar-14-06 09:42 AM   #12 
  - sorta  glaeken777   Mar-14-06 09:51 AM   #16 
  - It all depends on what one views as a "sin," now doesn't it?  trotsky   Mar-14-06 10:26 AM   #22 
  - I think that what people  Dorian Gray   Mar-14-06 09:52 AM   #17 
  - Christianity already includes elements of Paganism.  trotsky   Mar-14-06 10:29 AM   #24 
     - I would never claim to be the arbiter of what is "real" Christianity.  Dorian Gray   Mar-14-06 12:43 PM   #32 
        - I see your reasoning basically following two lines:  trotsky   Mar-14-06 01:00 PM   #33 
           - No...  Dorian Gray   Mar-14-06 02:31 PM   #42 
              - Well, I am coming from the state of mind of a non-Christian.  trotsky   Mar-14-06 02:55 PM   #45 
  - Yeah if that were the whole argument against Hitlers  bryant69   Mar-14-06 09:52 AM   #18 
     - The fundamental issue is, we can never know for certain.  trotsky   Mar-14-06 10:47 AM   #25 
        - Yes and no  bryant69   Mar-14-06 11:25 AM   #29 
           - There's a point being missed.  trotsky   Mar-14-06 12:03 PM   #31 
              - Fair enough.  bryant69   Mar-14-06 01:06 PM   #34 
                 - I think the argument is still the same,  trotsky   Mar-14-06 01:31 PM   #36 
                    - The argument isn't the same  bryant69   Mar-14-06 01:41 PM   #37 
                       - I don't hold Christianity responsible for the Holocaust.  trotsky   Mar-14-06 01:54 PM   #38 
                          - They aren't in my mind  bryant69   Mar-14-06 02:19 PM   #39 
                             - So we're back to where we started.  trotsky   Mar-14-06 02:57 PM   #46 
                             - I haven't claimed anything at all.  bryant69   Mar-14-06 03:06 PM   #48 
                                - Don't be so sure about Lincoln... ;-)  trotsky   Mar-14-06 03:41 PM   #49 
                             - Look...  misternormal   Mar-14-06 09:36 PM   #66 
  - I don't think you and your friend  cali   Mar-14-06 09:58 AM   #19 
  - I agree that we're not far apart  NewJeffCT   Mar-14-06 08:38 PM   #53 
  - .  hootinholler   Mar-14-06 10:13 AM   #20 
  - Read "The Holy Reich":  moobu2   Mar-14-06 10:24 AM   #21 
  - thanks  NewJeffCT   Mar-14-06 11:33 AM   #30 
  - just the book I was looking for - thank you - nt  Nabia2004   Mar-18-06 10:17 AM   #77 
  - I doubt that a sociopath like Hitler was capable of any genuine  Lydia Leftcoast   Mar-14-06 10:27 AM   #23 
  - I had friends that argued that the Puritans kept a Saturday sabbath.  igil   Mar-14-06 10:56 AM   #26 
  - Facism + Christianity  Khaotic   Mar-14-06 01:16 PM   #35 
  - What is Facism?  RDU Socialist   Mar-14-06 02:30 PM   #41 
  - Hitler, like Stalin, hated religion  RDU Socialist   Mar-14-06 02:28 PM   #40 
  - That would go against what was posted above  NewJeffCT   Mar-14-06 02:32 PM   #43 
     - the discussion pertains to Hitler  RDU Socialist   Mar-14-06 03:00 PM   #47 
     - I should have said...  NewJeffCT   Mar-14-06 08:48 PM   #56 
     - well, I should have said  NewJeffCT   Mar-14-06 08:30 PM   #51 
  - The really appalling thing is the cooperation of the churches.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Mar-14-06 02:41 PM   #44 
  - Hitler capitalized on his Christian population, but he wasn't Christian.  Xithras   Mar-14-06 03:48 PM   #50 
  - Banned Xianity from schools, my ass  onager   Mar-14-06 08:39 PM   #54 
     - He also said;  Dunedain   Mar-14-06 09:32 PM   #65 
     - Source?  onager   Mar-16-06 12:32 AM   #72 
     - He was as schizophrenic with this subject as anything else.  Xithras   Mar-16-06 02:42 PM   #76 
  - There's a picture of Hitler exiting a church. That proves he was devout.  Inland   Mar-14-06 08:45 PM   #55 
  - I was raised Catholic  RDU Socialist   Mar-14-06 08:57 PM   #57 
     - Yeah, that was the sarcasm part.  Inland   Mar-14-06 09:01 PM   #58 
        - So the "Gott ist mitt uns" on the SS belt buckles were...  Disturbed   Mar-14-06 09:14 PM   #60 
           - No, they were Hitler's devout prayers. He blessed them himself  Inland   Mar-14-06 09:21 PM   #62 
  - It sounds to me as if you two basically agree?  Katherine Brengle   Mar-14-06 09:02 PM   #59 
  - See the Straight Dope:  The Straight Story   Mar-14-06 09:15 PM   #61 
  - Before we start hanging swastikas and iron crosses...  misternormal   Mar-14-06 09:26 PM   #63 
  - that was part of my original response  NewJeffCT   Mar-14-06 09:48 PM   #67 
  - Check Wikipedia  Texacrat   Mar-14-06 09:31 PM   #64 
  - You can't really prove whether Hitler was or wasn't a Christian...  antigone382   Mar-14-06 09:54 PM   #68 
  - here is an interesting article about a relic of that notion:  Kellanved   Mar-15-06 11:36 AM   #69 
  - Hitler was raised as a Roman Catholic  Jack Rabbit   Mar-15-06 11:40 AM   #70 
  - He used it like bush.  mmonk   Mar-15-06 11:41 AM   #71 
  - I tracked down my hard copies of an article in "Free Inquiry"  Theduckno2   Mar-16-06 01:01 AM   #73 
  - Invoking religion NOT unique to Hitler!!! - Move along...  hexola   Mar-16-06 06:25 AM   #74 
  - Hitler was not a Christian...  PhilipShore   Mar-16-06 07:00 AM   #75 
 

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