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Fri Jan-06-06 07:43 AM
Response to Reply #63 |
| 64. Professional Cuban Exiles = CIA |
| -Any Serious JFK Buffs here?. Did You See this Reuters Story? |
radio4progressives |
Jan-05-06 11:46 PM |
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Just another Kennedy conspiracy theory------it has gone on |
GrumpyGreg |
Jan-05-06 11:48 PM |
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only JFK buffs need to respond, but thanks for bumping this.. |
radio4progressives |
Jan-05-06 11:51 PM |
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You're welcome----and kicked again. |
GrumpyGreg |
Jan-06-06 12:03 AM |
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"only JFK buffs need to respond"??? |
WilliamPitt |
Jan-06-06 01:41 AM |
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While I see your irritation here... |
tasteblind |
Jan-06-06 08:02 AM |
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He was "knocking" the attempt at censorship. |
BikeWriter |
Jan-07-06 03:55 PM |
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Well said, Will Pitt, My response was the same. |
BikeWriter |
Jan-06-06 08:25 AM |
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I disagree, Will didn't make himself clear at all... So Not Well Said |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 03:37 PM |
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That's your opinion, definitely not mine. |
BikeWriter |
Jan-07-06 03:53 PM |
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i'm not sure what point you're trying to make here, perhaps you should |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 03:36 PM |
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It's not fair to exclude somebody from the discussion |
A-Schwarzenegger |
Jan-06-06 03:51 PM |
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that wasn't my intention... see responses up thread... NT |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 03:52 PM |
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I know. |
A-Schwarzenegger |
Jan-06-06 03:55 PM |
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My bad! I'm taking some a little too seriously! thanks! NT |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 04:05 PM |
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Yeah. And we've had a bunch of criminals in the White House. |
Octafish |
Jan-08-06 10:09 AM |
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I'm not quite clear on the Parrot information |
DemonFighterLives |
Jan-08-06 10:26 AM |
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James Parrott worked for Poppy |
Octafish |
Jan-08-06 01:49 PM |
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Thank you Sir |
DemonFighterLives |
Jan-08-06 02:34 PM |
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It means that... |
SnoopDog |
Jan-05-06 11:50 PM |
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interesting idea.. |
radio4progressives |
Jan-05-06 11:52 PM |
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My eyes still tear up thinking about JFK... |
SnoopDog |
Jan-05-06 11:58 PM |
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which home video? You mean the new film in the story? n/t |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 01:02 AM |
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seems the most reasonable explanation for this story - eom |
Mind_your_head |
Jan-05-06 11:56 PM |
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Yeah, that was what I was wondering. It's like when they roll out shills |
impeachdubya |
Jan-05-06 11:57 PM |
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Because, |
SnoopDog |
Jan-06-06 12:01 AM |
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that would certainly be my take on it |
Athame |
Jan-06-06 12:08 AM |
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If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck |
dogday |
Jan-06-06 07:53 AM |
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That's exactly my take, SnoopDog. nt |
ThruTheLookingGlass |
Jan-06-06 03:56 PM |
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I never though of Haig as being a Dem. He was chief of staff for Nixon. |
tmooses |
Jan-05-06 11:55 PM |
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Bullshit. The Assassination WAS the right-wing uprising, and it succeeded. |
impeachdubya |
Jan-05-06 11:55 PM |
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If that's so, then why would the right assassinate Kennedy, knowing... |
Maddy McCall |
Jan-06-06 12:07 AM |
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Not in foreign affairs. |
A-Schwarzenegger |
Jan-06-06 12:15 AM |
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Thanks, I was about to mention that. |
dailykoff |
Jan-06-06 12:19 AM |
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Poppy Bush was in Dallas according to recently declassifed documents |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 01:32 AM |
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C'mon. Those docs only refer to "George Bush of the CIA". |
impeachdubya |
Jan-06-06 03:23 PM |
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there are only 50 states |
pitohui |
Jan-06-06 09:13 PM |
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Kennedy was also very pissed off at the CIA over their fubar at the |
missouri dem 2 |
Jan-06-06 12:28 AM |
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My understanding he was going dismantle the CIA... (?) |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 12:41 AM |
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no |
WoodrowFan |
Jan-06-06 07:10 AM |
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Ok.. Interesting... Is info this in 13 Days, by the way? thnx! NT |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 03:54 PM |
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In cleaning house, two important figures- |
nomatrix |
Jan-06-06 08:56 PM |
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I'll give you that, but certainly in domestic. |
Maddy McCall |
Jan-06-06 12:22 AM |
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Agreed, but the Cold Warriors of the time |
A-Schwarzenegger |
Jan-06-06 12:23 AM |
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Yes...and today's neocons are actually yesterday's cold warriors. |
Maddy McCall |
Jan-06-06 12:26 AM |
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i do not think the Right expected Johnson to take such sweeping domestic |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 01:14 AM |
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Johnson was never perceived as a Dixiecrat. |
Maddy McCall |
Jan-06-06 02:21 AM |
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Yet he had |
H2O Man |
Jan-06-06 07:26 AM |
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"Even in Communist countries, the right wing prevails." |
sofa king |
Jan-06-06 12:24 AM |
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Liberal, Shmiberal. Look at LBJ's eyes on AF1 as he takes the oath.. |
impeachdubya |
Jan-06-06 12:36 AM |
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Kennedy wanted to disolve the CIA and pull out of Viet Nam |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 12:36 AM |
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That's open to debate. |
H2O Man |
Jan-06-06 07:41 AM |
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I'm no historian expert, thanks for the compliment, but I do agree with |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 04:03 PM |
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Though I had been responding |
H2O Man |
Jan-06-06 06:37 PM |
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My bad... I'm terrible with determining which post is being responded to. |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 07:05 PM |
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That's fine .... |
H2O Man |
Jan-06-06 07:16 PM |
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Interesting... thank you for the reading recommendations.. |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 07:54 PM |
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Connections |
erpowers |
Jan-06-06 11:13 AM |
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It is the same company, only bigger. |
nomatrix |
Jan-06-06 08:16 PM |
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JFK said "No" to Vietnam war. |
Octafish |
Jan-07-06 04:39 PM |
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It's interesting |
liberalpragmatist |
Jan-05-06 11:55 PM |
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Posted yesterday? Boy did i miss that one! |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 12:50 AM |
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I am a minor buff, but am a bit out of practice |
StellaBlue |
Jan-05-06 11:58 PM |
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My intial reaction - this is spin as to soften the Left for the |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 12:29 AM |
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Well, there's your "limited hangout" right there |
marekjed |
Jan-06-06 01:48 AM |
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My intention is not to give Credibility to this story... |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 04:10 PM |
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I don't see it. The consequences for Cuba would have been |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-06-06 12:02 AM |
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It is about the one thing that would have GUARANTEED an invasion.. |
MnFats |
Jan-06-06 12:05 AM |
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Yep. What would have stopped us? |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-06-06 12:11 AM |
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Thanks for the tip on Ellroy's book. It looks interesting. |
Garbo 2004 |
Jan-06-06 02:30 AM |
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That's right. It turned out to be some other guy |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-06-06 10:52 AM |
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and that's the hook... |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 01:29 AM |
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The Cuban theory was one of the first to be considered. |
JDPriestly |
Jan-06-06 12:03 AM |
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Excellent points... and I tend to concurr - I also think this is likely to |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 12:55 AM |
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Oswald himself, in the notes taken while in custody, |
A-Schwarzenegger |
Jan-06-06 12:10 AM |
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Yes. Considering who would step into the presidency, once... |
Maddy McCall |
Jan-06-06 12:11 AM |
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Three years is a very brief period to perform historical research... |
Maddy McCall |
Jan-06-06 12:10 AM |
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That was another reaction I had ... 3 years?????? really??? |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 12:57 AM |
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Doesn't make any sense. |
dailykoff |
Jan-06-06 12:12 AM |
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No, no, no. Kennedy approved the Bay of Pigs invasion, |
A-Schwarzenegger |
Jan-06-06 12:19 AM |
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It was authorized in March 1960 by Eisenhower, |
dailykoff |
Jan-06-06 12:34 AM |
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You said, |
A-Schwarzenegger |
Jan-06-06 12:38 AM |
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I was under the impression that he was aware of it, signed off on it |
impeachdubya |
Jan-06-06 12:43 AM |
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Yeah, it happened, what, two months after his inauguration? |
A-Schwarzenegger |
Jan-06-06 12:45 AM |
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It was planned and authorized in 1960. JFK became president in 1961. |
dailykoff |
Jan-06-06 12:44 AM |
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This is based on something that Alexander Haig said that |
missouri dem 2 |
Jan-06-06 12:25 AM |
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I was thinking Haig worked with Porter Goss or Carlucci at the time... |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 01:01 AM |
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Can you say "dezinformatsiya"? |
newswolf56 |
Jan-06-06 01:12 AM |
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Bingo! |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 01:26 AM |
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Thank you; actually am still a reporter -- freelance though, not staff. |
newswolf56 |
Jan-06-06 01:47 AM |
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You have to check out The Poetry of Donald Rumsfeld |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-06-06 11:02 AM |
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nulle bastardo carburendum ? |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 03:46 PM |
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Thank you again. Answers as requested: |
newswolf56 |
Jan-06-06 07:06 PM |
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Yes... I'm trying to pay a bit of attention to these events... |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 07:36 PM |
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I agree with your analysis |
Daphne08 |
Jan-06-06 04:13 AM |
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Oldies Unite! We have nothing to lose but... |
newswolf56 |
Jan-06-06 07:12 PM |
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You put it much better than I did.. (in a few threads up) |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 07:47 PM |
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If Cuba was responsible, then why the cover-up? |
marekjed |
Jan-06-06 02:02 AM |
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exactly... if cuba was responsible, why cover it up... |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 03:50 PM |
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Judge Sues Over JFK Information |
Skipper98 |
Jan-06-06 02:09 AM |
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This is an interesting nugget... thanks for the piece.. NT |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 03:51 PM |
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Welcome to DU! |
DemonFighterLives |
Jan-06-06 09:01 PM |
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Many buffs think Cuban "exiles" may have been involved. |
Bridget Burke |
Jan-06-06 07:41 AM |
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Professional Cuban Exiles = CIA |
BuyingThyme |
Jan-06-06 07:43 AM |
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Right.. It's to soften the public up for a pre-planned invasion |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 07:56 PM |
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A question as I have forgotten much.... |
mmonk |
Jan-06-06 07:44 AM |
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I think (they say) because it was |
BuyingThyme |
Jan-06-06 08:00 AM |
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I was just wondering. |
mmonk |
Jan-06-06 08:10 AM |
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Yes, almost definitely. |
BuyingThyme |
Jan-06-06 08:11 AM |
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It was a no winner for JFK. He didn't stop it and he couldn't |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-06-06 10:54 AM |
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exactly - it was supposed to be seen as "exile" counter revolution /coup |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 04:15 PM |
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Another piece of disinformation dangled out for the public |
MadHound |
Jan-06-06 08:20 AM |
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Just Saw It |
erpowers |
Jan-06-06 11:01 AM |
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Look |
Robbins |
Jan-06-06 11:27 AM |
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Your disbelief is more than warranted by at least five facts: |
newswolf56 |
Jan-06-06 01:19 PM |
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Boy Howdy... I do not recall reading a more detailed report on the weapons |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 04:28 PM |
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Me too. |
BuyingThyme |
Jan-06-06 04:31 PM |
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Thanks for this report |
DemonFighterLives |
Jan-06-06 09:46 PM |
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What did Jennings say? (I haven't watched network TV for years) |
newswolf56 |
Jan-06-06 10:34 PM |
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Jennings thing came out maybe a year or so ago |
DemonFighterLives |
Jan-06-06 10:45 PM |
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A relevant quote from FM 23-10, |
newswolf56 |
Jan-07-06 12:28 AM |
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I don't remember the grouping |
DemonFighterLives |
Jan-07-06 07:36 AM |
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Had forgotten the obviously doctored Oswald photo: |
newswolf56 |
Jan-07-06 03:45 PM |
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Thanks for the info. |
DemonFighterLives |
Jan-08-06 07:42 AM |
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Nothing to do with this theory... |
sendero |
Jan-06-06 04:15 PM |
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i saw this... |
NJ Democrats |
Jan-06-06 09:08 PM |
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ONLY THE GOV'T COULD CHANGE JFK'S ROUTE THAT DAY.... |
jus_the_facts |
Jan-06-06 09:08 PM |
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i'll accept that answer |
pitohui |
Jan-06-06 09:09 PM |
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My first thought when I read the OP was that this story was BS |
DemonFighterLives |
Jan-06-06 09:40 PM |
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I think it's Bush Propaganda to take the heat off what might be the truth |
KoKo01 |
Jan-06-06 10:22 PM |
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This discussion is exactly what I was seeking... |
radio4progressives |
Jan-06-06 10:36 PM |
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Cubans yes -- Miami Cubans, that is! |
guajira |
Jan-07-06 04:31 PM |
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Possible. Not very likely. |
Octafish |
Jan-07-06 04:51 PM |
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Your photo of the motorcade... |
misanthrope |
Jan-08-06 12:08 PM |
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doesn't solve the "magic bullet" problem, and the different |
Raydawg1234 |
Jan-07-06 04:53 PM |
#128 |