Reply #280: I think if a kid has either Ward Cleaver OR Hugh Hefner as role models

[Warren DeMontague]

He's going to end up getting his ass kicked for dressing like that.



I'm not gonna buy what Father Andrew Greeley is peddling re; pedophile priests, sorry. He's hardly a disinterested party. If anything, it's been conclusively demonstrated that, unlike your normal, creepy, trenchcoat-n'-van pedophiles, Priests have the wealthiest organization on the planet at their disposal to cover up their crimes, move 'em around, buy off their victims, etc. etc. etc. I would turn your argument around, and say if postal workers were molesting kids like Priests have been shown to, and the post office was displaying a rampant, egregious pattern of covering up their crimes, townspeople with pitchforks and torches would be surrounding post offices across the land, demanding that they get the fuck out of their towns.

But on this, like on so many things, "the church" gets an extra-special free pass and dispensation.

Also, if two adults consent to have sex, even though they aren't in necessarily love, and both get mutual enjoyment out of the act (which sums up a great deal of my casanova-like behavior in younger days), how is that "heartbreaking"?