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Edited on Wed Mar-15-06 12:55 PM by debbierlus
Here are some facts about porn: A 1992 survey of 14 year olds, 87% of boys and 61% of girls reported having viewed video pornography. Boys who were frequent consumers of pornography and/or reported learning a lot from pornography were more accepting of rape myths and violence against women, and were also more likely to say that it was "OK" to hold a girl down and force her to have intercourse. - Dr. James Check, York University non-aggressive" pornography (pornography prominently available in mainstream market), that which excludes rape and violence but graphically depicts all other forms of sex (group, homosexual, switching, anal, oral, etc.) was found to: desensitize the viewers to the material's breaking of sexual taboos, causing the viewers to become more accepting of it and much less concerned about its negative effects; cause the viewers to regard rape as a more trivial offense, with men particularly showing major increases of sexual callousness toward women; increase the viewers' loss of compassion for women as rape victims. In a sense, then, this kind of pornography as male entertainment promotes the victimization of women. - Dr. Victor Cline, University of Utah From the above study: Those who treat pornography victims report that many who are exposed to pornography progress through four stages: ADDICTION: This addiction of the mind can be as powerful as any drug, alcohol, or cigarette addiction of the body. Flashbacks are also experienced. ESCALATION: Need for rougher and more sexually shocking material in order to get the same sexual stimulation as before. DESENSITIZATION: With continued exposure, what at first was gross, shocking and disturbing becomes acceptable and commonplace. ACTING OUT: There is an increased tendency to start "acting out" the sexual activities seen in the pornography. On liberal men “For the last 30 years and more, I have watched liberals in America…try to repackage pornography and prostitution as a hip and groovy thing, a liberating thing, something novel and progressive and good for us all, men and women alike. Allegedly Leftist, Progressive men declare their loyalty (both as customers and partisans) to one of the biggest and most exploitative sweatshop industries of them all. Men who would not be caught dead wearing Reeboks or Nikes, or drinking Starbucks coffee, can still kid themselves into thinking Larry Flynt is some kind of People's Hero.” -D.A. Clarke in Not For Sale I realize that there are people who could watch a porn video without much, if any ill effect. But, what about the people in that video? Do you really think that is a good way for anyone to make a living? I think porn has consequences and implications that people on this board do not want to acknowledge. http://www.mincava.umn.edu/documents/arpornography/arpo... As pornography has become more acceptable, both legally and culturally, the level of brutality toward, and degradation of, women has intensified ( Jensen, 2004). As one pornography director put it, "People just want it harder, harder, and harder...what are you gonna do next?" ( Adult Video News, 2003, p. 60). Another director was blunt in describing his task: " ne of the things about today's porn and the extreme market, the gonzo market, so many fans want to see so much more extreme stuff that I'm always trying to figure out ways to do something different. But it seems everybody wants to see a girl doing a d.p. (double penetration) now or a gangbang. For certain girls, that's great, and I like to see that for certain people, but a lot of fans are becoming a lot more demanding about wanting to see the more extreme stuff. It's definitely brought porn somewhere, but I don't know where it's headed from there" (p. 46).
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Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 06:14 AM |
#0 |
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Porn has a bad rap, thanks to the fundies, IMO |
ixion |
Mar-13-06 06:19 AM |
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Agreed. nt. |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 06:21 AM |
#2 |
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Thanks to the fundies? |
NaturalHigh |
Mar-14-06 07:26 AM |
#143 |
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Those people ARE fundies. |
benburch |
Mar-18-06 12:56 PM |
#257 |
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Speaking as a fundy |
hfojvt |
Mar-18-06 01:19 PM |
#260 |
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No, your sort tie porn and sex whenever it suits your purposes. |
benburch |
Mar-18-06 01:24 PM |
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Of course, you are right. There is no dysfunctionality in the world |
hfojvt |
Mar-18-06 02:30 PM |
#270 |
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There is plenty of sexual dysfunction in, for example, the Vatican |
impeachdubya |
Mar-18-06 03:32 PM |
#277 |
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as a protestant, of course I think that Catholicism |
hfojvt |
Mar-18-06 04:00 PM |
#279 |
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I think if a kid has either Ward Cleaver OR Hugh Hefner as role models |
impeachdubya |
Mar-18-06 04:11 PM |
#280 |
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sex without love is dysfunctional? |
Djinn |
Mar-19-06 09:51 PM |
#298 |
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Apparently. |
impeachdubya |
Mar-20-06 12:39 AM |
#303 |
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All these discussions are UNIVERSALLY predicated upon two words: |
impeachdubya |
Mar-18-06 01:46 PM |
#265 |
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Yet, if there are lines |
hfojvt |
Mar-18-06 02:16 PM |
#266 |
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The argument around smut pertains to consenting adult material. |
impeachdubya |
Mar-18-06 02:25 PM |
#268 |
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I would think you are also talking about pictures and writing as well |
hfojvt |
Mar-18-06 03:29 PM |
#276 |
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Actually, in my humble opinion, drug abuse should be addressed as |
impeachdubya |
Mar-18-06 03:47 PM |
#278 |
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"legally available" is the issue |
hfojvt |
Mar-18-06 04:48 PM |
#281 |
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What you like is "erotica" what other people watch is dirty "smut" |
mongo |
Mar-18-06 02:23 PM |
#267 |
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Your last line is clearly untrue |
hfojvt |
Mar-18-06 03:00 PM |
#272 |
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"Society does not get alot of satisfaction from the invisible hand" |
impeachdubya |
Mar-18-06 03:20 PM |
#274 |
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Robb is a dingbat |
chefgirl |
Mar-13-06 06:23 AM |
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We agree! |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 06:24 AM |
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Agree to what |
wakeme2008 |
Mar-13-06 06:34 AM |
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On the porn. I would not call Robb a dingbat, especially NOW: |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 06:38 AM |
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I Agree, Too |
AnnieBW |
Mar-17-06 01:57 AM |
#245 |
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I answered healthy/normal |
meganmonkey |
Mar-13-06 06:23 AM |
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Agreed. The same can be said on almost any topic, |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 06:26 AM |
#6 |
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too much is a bad thing |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Mar-13-06 11:40 AM |
#40 |
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Who gets to define "too much"? The gov.? Some church? You? |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 02:14 PM |
#95 |
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The person who's viewing it, and their SO |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Mar-13-06 02:54 PM |
#103 |
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We mostly agree, which is sometimes as good as it gets. |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 02:57 PM |
#104 |
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Porn is porn. Whats the difference if it's male or female? |
William769 |
Mar-13-06 06:30 AM |
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Ah. Sorry, that is not what I meant. I was asking for responses |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 06:31 AM |
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Well then Male porn is very Healthy!!! |
William769 |
Mar-13-06 06:34 AM |
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LOL!!! |
meegbear |
Mar-13-06 07:30 AM |
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It depends on the theme of the porn & the attitudes expressed within. |
WePurrsevere |
Mar-13-06 06:43 AM |
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Agreed. BTW, that cat looks much like mine... nt. |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 06:45 AM |
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I'm with you |
Rich Hunt |
Mar-14-06 04:26 PM |
#192 |
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Smut! A March by Tom Lehrer |
mcscajun |
Mar-13-06 07:27 AM |
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Yep. I had three or four of his albums at one time... good song. nt. |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 07:30 AM |
#16 |
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Overall, I think it's healthy |
GOPFighter |
Mar-13-06 07:34 AM |
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Agreed on all counts. nt. |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 07:42 AM |
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It's only healthy |
tmfun |
Mar-13-06 07:42 AM |
#18 |
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Loll! nt. |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 07:43 AM |
#20 |
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I voted "other" |
Ufomammut |
Mar-13-06 07:53 AM |
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Welcome to D.U.! |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 09:37 AM |
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Well, as Nina Harley recently said |
mongo |
Mar-13-06 12:08 PM |
#44 |
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It's complicated |
Ufomammut |
Mar-13-06 12:36 PM |
#56 |
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People are what they see on the boob tube? |
mongo |
Mar-13-06 12:49 PM |
#64 |
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No, porn alone won't necessarily make a "monster" |
Ufomammut |
Mar-13-06 12:59 PM |
#70 |
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Porn is just pictures of people having sex. |
benburch |
Mar-18-06 12:55 PM |
#256 |
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Read Nina's essay... |
benburch |
Mar-18-06 01:35 PM |
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This is an excellent post |
Rich Hunt |
Mar-14-06 04:27 PM |
#193 |
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I Voted Other |
abluelady |
Mar-13-06 08:06 AM |
#22 |
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"Live and let live". Cool. nt. |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 09:37 AM |
#24 |
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That's pretty much my reasoning as well. |
FVZA_Colonel |
Mar-13-06 10:22 PM |
#124 |
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Personally I find porn |
BlackVelvet04 |
Mar-13-06 09:39 AM |
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I did not mean to include anything that was illegal in the porn |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 09:45 AM |
#26 |
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Clarification |
Ufomammut |
Mar-13-06 10:32 AM |
#27 |
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I am not quite sure what to make of all of this; I am a simpler creature. |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 10:43 AM |
#28 |
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"When I see a young woman willingly debasing herself in porn..." |
GOPFighter |
Mar-13-06 11:23 AM |
#36 |
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I've already outlined my position on this |
Ufomammut |
Mar-13-06 11:36 AM |
#38 |
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"Debasement" is YOUR judgment |
lapislzi |
Mar-13-06 01:08 PM |
#72 |
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It's fairly obvious |
Ufomammut |
Mar-13-06 01:23 PM |
#73 |
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LOL! You're funny! |
benburch |
Mar-18-06 01:19 PM |
#259 |
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Especially when most of the "golden shower" genre |
mongo |
Mar-13-06 12:16 PM |
#47 |
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I don't find the human body ugly or evil either..... |
BlackVelvet04 |
Mar-13-06 11:18 AM |
#35 |
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Ah, well I don't think "art" falls in the category of |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 12:28 PM |
#52 |
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ditto n/t |
StellaBlue |
Mar-14-06 04:32 PM |
#195 |
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I was shocked to discover |
FlaGranny |
Mar-13-06 11:01 AM |
#29 |
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"Clean" smut is always a marginal sell |
Ufomammut |
Mar-13-06 11:03 AM |
#30 |
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Actually Hustler's movie product |
mongo |
Mar-13-06 12:21 PM |
#49 |
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Not what I was alluding to |
Ufomammut |
Mar-13-06 12:39 PM |
#60 |
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That was a joke on his part, you know. |
benburch |
Mar-18-06 12:49 PM |
#253 |
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Hmmmm. Interesting. I knew none of that, though a friend once |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 11:04 AM |
#31 |
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There's a similar story in Catch-22 |
FatDave |
Mar-13-06 02:09 PM |
#92 |
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Would I be surprised? Somewhat. It seemed sorta |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 02:22 PM |
#100 |
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And, |
FlaGranny |
Mar-13-06 05:01 PM |
#114 |
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So how did they have two kids? |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-14-06 06:24 AM |
#137 |
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Hey, beats me! I guess |
FlaGranny |
Mar-14-06 10:47 AM |
#148 |
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Gives new meaning to the phrase .... |
RagingInMiami |
Mar-13-06 11:30 AM |
#37 |
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Zing LOL |
Ufomammut |
Mar-13-06 11:38 AM |
#39 |
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That's good |
Rich Hunt |
Mar-14-06 04:30 PM |
#194 |
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Porn is healthy/normal wih a caveat. |
Yollam |
Mar-13-06 11:07 AM |
#32 |
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I liked 60"s/70's stuff because I like hirsute. As for age, I think |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 11:14 AM |
#33 |
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The street kids sucked in by the industry are not on an equal footing. |
Yollam |
Mar-13-06 11:41 AM |
#41 |
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Very misleading stereotype |
Ufomammut |
Mar-13-06 11:53 AM |
#42 |
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I realize that not all porn "actors" are like that. |
Yollam |
Mar-13-06 11:58 AM |
#43 |
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They do. |
mongo |
Mar-13-06 12:51 PM |
#66 |
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Here's a link |
ismnotwasm |
Mar-14-06 02:43 PM |
#177 |
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Thanks |
mongo |
Mar-14-06 04:33 PM |
#196 |
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Um, No. |
mongo |
Mar-13-06 12:38 PM |
#59 |
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No |
Ufomammut |
Mar-13-06 12:44 PM |
#62 |
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The industry doesn't "prey" on anyone. |
mongo |
Mar-13-06 12:31 PM |
#53 |
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"Models" LOL |
Yollam |
Mar-13-06 12:34 PM |
#54 |
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There are suitcase pimps |
mongo |
Mar-13-06 12:45 PM |
#63 |
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Same is true about many people in many professions, though. |
benburch |
Mar-18-06 12:51 PM |
#254 |
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Gay porn outfits are certainly no sleazier than straight ones. |
readmoreoften |
Mar-14-06 02:25 AM |
#133 |
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(Sigh). Most of us end up doing things we are not thrilled with to make |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 12:35 PM |
#55 |
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But a mixed-up kid off the bus from Kansas might think... |
Yollam |
Mar-13-06 12:58 PM |
#68 |
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... and as a teacher, I am GROSSLY underpaid, and some |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 01:36 PM |
#74 |
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Wow. It gives me no end of comfort to know there are teachers like you |
Iris |
Mar-14-06 11:42 AM |
#156 |
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You mean she'd be better off deep frying McNuggets for a few years |
mondo joe |
Mar-18-06 05:28 PM |
#285 |
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the difference is... |
Rich Hunt |
Mar-14-06 04:33 PM |
#197 |
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yeah. Like the 20 year old chick who got caught up in the HIV scare a few |
Iris |
Mar-14-06 09:38 AM |
#146 |
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The (straight) adult performer community |
mongo |
Mar-14-06 11:33 AM |
#152 |
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I'm not saying that HIV is prevalent in that community. |
Iris |
Mar-14-06 11:35 AM |
#153 |
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You know what I really hate about DU? |
Iris |
Mar-14-06 11:37 AM |
#154 |
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And I was addressing your post |
mongo |
Mar-14-06 02:01 PM |
#166 |
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You know so much about porn, |
Iris |
Mar-14-06 03:25 PM |
#183 |
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Trading sex for a cell phone is not so bad |
mongo |
Mar-14-06 03:38 PM |
#186 |
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AMEN on that. |
benburch |
Mar-19-06 11:43 PM |
#301 |
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All work is wage slavery. ALL of it. |
benburch |
Mar-18-06 12:53 PM |
#255 |
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Maybe she could have worked in a coal mine for a few decades. |
mondo joe |
Mar-18-06 07:22 PM |
#292 |
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I disagree that it is an extremely exloitative industry |
mongo |
Mar-13-06 12:27 PM |
#51 |
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strongly seconded! |
lionesspriyanka |
Mar-14-06 05:20 PM |
#202 |
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I also voted 'other'. |
kalibex |
Mar-13-06 11:16 AM |
#34 |
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Ah. They are interchangeable terms to me, but I see your point. |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 12:13 PM |
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Who gets to draw the line |
mongo |
Mar-13-06 12:54 PM |
#67 |
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For the most part, agreed. Some things are illegal for a reason, |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 01:38 PM |
#75 |
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Heartily agree |
mongo |
Mar-13-06 02:00 PM |
#85 |
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Cool! Good luck in your battles! nt. |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 02:05 PM |
#88 |
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Porn or erotica? "It's mostly a matter of lighting". |
eppur_se_muova |
Mar-13-06 02:51 PM |
#101 |
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It's pretty normal, for the most part |
noonwitch |
Mar-13-06 12:13 PM |
#45 |
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The first porno I saw was certainly something made in the early 70s. |
impeachdubya |
Mar-13-06 10:59 PM |
#128 |
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Just like anything else, there's good porn and bad porn |
libnnc |
Mar-13-06 12:14 PM |
#46 |
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Nice post |
mongo |
Mar-13-06 12:58 PM |
#69 |
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I don't think there is a whole lot wrong with most |
hyphenate |
Mar-13-06 12:19 PM |
#48 |
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For me it's... |
Ufomammut |
Mar-13-06 12:26 PM |
#50 |
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Snuff films don't exist. |
RandomKoolzip |
Mar-13-06 02:04 PM |
#87 |
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Thank you for reminding people of this. |
readmoreoften |
Mar-14-06 03:20 PM |
#182 |
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For some, it's all they've got. |
HypnoToad |
Mar-13-06 12:36 PM |
#57 |
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Actually... |
Ufomammut |
Mar-13-06 12:51 PM |
#65 |
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I have a tendency to do that... |
HypnoToad |
Mar-13-06 10:13 PM |
#122 |
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Female - porn is just totally comical/lame and not at all interesting. |
Vektor |
Mar-13-06 12:37 PM |
#58 |
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Not sure what your focus is here |
lapislzi |
Mar-13-06 12:42 PM |
#61 |
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Who is Rob? |
DaveColorado |
Mar-13-06 01:02 PM |
#71 |
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Here: |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 01:55 PM |
#79 |
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I was referring to the consumption, but others in this thread |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 01:54 PM |
#78 |
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Well, on a non serious note... that video is HILARIOUS!! |
Endangered Specie |
Mar-13-06 01:44 PM |
#76 |
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Thank you! I stole it from another D.U.er ... nt |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 01:57 PM |
#80 |
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god I hope I dont start randomly singing it tomorrow |
Endangered Specie |
Mar-13-06 02:06 PM |
#89 |
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Catchy, ain't it? nt. |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 02:07 PM |
#90 |
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Ditto. That thing is a riot. n/t |
impeachdubya |
Mar-13-06 08:55 PM |
#120 |
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Thank you. It is pretty funny. nt. |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-14-06 06:30 AM |
#138 |
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Porn is good. Plain and simple. |
Taverner |
Mar-13-06 01:46 PM |
#77 |
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Agreed. I like porn. nt. |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 01:57 PM |
#81 |
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I would rather he be having sex. |
PassingFair |
Mar-13-06 04:54 PM |
#112 |
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Private sex? That's your thing |
Taverner |
Mar-14-06 11:58 AM |
#159 |
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Other -- It depends on the porn |
Armstead |
Mar-13-06 01:59 PM |
#82 |
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Well, as long as it's between consenting adults |
American Tragedy |
Mar-13-06 01:59 PM |
#83 |
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Kiddie porn is not, by definition, porn, it is obscenity |
Taverner |
Mar-13-06 02:02 PM |
#86 |
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Sex is healthy & normal. Porn is often degrading n/t |
mtnsnake |
Mar-13-06 01:59 PM |
#84 |
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Degrading depends on your opinion |
Taverner |
Mar-13-06 02:09 PM |
#93 |
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No. I think you know what I'm referring to |
mtnsnake |
Mar-13-06 02:20 PM |
#98 |
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I disagree |
Taverner |
Mar-13-06 02:52 PM |
#102 |
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I don't care for the wording so I didn't vote. |
mzmolly |
Mar-13-06 02:08 PM |
#91 |
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Sigh. Everyone's a critic. I wrote the poll as best I could. |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 02:18 PM |
#96 |
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I'd be curious to know as well. n/t |
redqueen |
Mar-13-06 03:48 PM |
#107 |
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I'm talking about most mainstream porn. Maxhardcore is an example. |
mzmolly |
Mar-13-06 08:46 PM |
#119 |
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Max Hardcore is at one extreme end of the smut spectrum. |
impeachdubya |
Mar-13-06 10:01 PM |
#121 |
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Who said you should desexualize? |
mzmolly |
Mar-14-06 09:06 AM |
#144 |
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All I know is, his "style"- if you can call it that- is hardly indicative |
impeachdubya |
Mar-14-06 11:48 AM |
#157 |
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The quote should be taken in context. |
mzmolly |
Mar-14-06 01:15 PM |
#163 |
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I gotcha. It would be pretty weird to be attracted to just a pair of, |
impeachdubya |
Mar-14-06 01:42 PM |
#164 |
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All good points. |
mzmolly |
Mar-14-06 02:22 PM |
#170 |
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And there are certainly men |
mongo |
Mar-14-06 03:45 PM |
#188 |
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I got mugged in the alley behind the Good Vibrations store on 23rd street |
impeachdubya |
Mar-14-06 07:12 PM |
#203 |
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The fact that you chose Max Hardcore |
mongo |
Mar-14-06 12:05 PM |
#161 |
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I've shown you this info before Mongo |
mzmolly |
Mar-14-06 01:08 PM |
#162 |
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I suppose it's redundant to point out that the linked article |
impeachdubya |
Mar-14-06 01:45 PM |
#165 |
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That means MHC has been a big seller for sometime. |
mzmolly |
Mar-14-06 02:27 PM |
#172 |
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Either that, or, the popularity of that genre as reported by one article |
impeachdubya |
Mar-14-06 03:20 PM |
#181 |
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Given the ease in which I can find his material I'd say he's not a flash |
mzmolly |
Mar-14-06 03:30 PM |
#184 |
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Well, I'm sure you can find the movie Casablanca being sold |
mongo |
Mar-14-06 03:52 PM |
#189 |
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Find me the data. From what I've read MHC is selling more than the |
mzmolly |
Mar-14-06 04:06 PM |
#191 |
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Top 75 DVD sales |
mongo |
Mar-14-06 05:00 PM |
#198 |
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MHC ranked 145 on this list |
mzmolly |
Mar-14-06 05:08 PM |
#199 |
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145th on the adult rental list |
mongo |
Mar-14-06 08:42 PM |
#210 |
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I don't know you tell me. |
mzmolly |
Mar-14-06 09:15 PM |
#211 |
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Well with 1700 ever changing movies on the floor |
mongo |
Mar-15-06 11:44 AM |
#219 |
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I'm glad you have some standards. |
mzmolly |
Mar-15-06 12:41 PM |
#222 |
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Hi |
mongo |
Mar-16-06 11:29 AM |
#230 |
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Hello |
mzmolly |
Mar-16-06 06:04 PM |
#241 |
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There is no such thing as snuff films |
mongo |
Mar-17-06 11:29 AM |
#247 |
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Most are hoaxes to my understanding. |
mzmolly |
Mar-17-06 11:52 AM |
#248 |
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From your google search |
mongo |
Mar-17-06 07:01 PM |
#250 |
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What part of intermingling murder with sexual arousal don't you get? |
mzmolly |
Mar-18-06 12:45 PM |
#251 |
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I read the article, did you? |
mongo |
Mar-18-06 02:53 PM |
#271 |
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You keep changing the subject. |
mzmolly |
Mar-18-06 03:11 PM |
#273 |
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My friends in law enforcement tell me there has never been ONE commercial |
benburch |
Mar-18-06 01:01 PM |
#258 |
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There are fake snuff films which are called "snuff films." |
mzmolly |
Mar-18-06 06:02 PM |
#287 |
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Well, fake hardly counts... |
benburch |
Mar-18-06 06:27 PM |
#288 |
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Really? |
mzmolly |
Mar-18-06 06:50 PM |
#290 |
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Have Fun! |
benburch |
Mar-18-06 07:15 PM |
#291 |
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Yes making a film with the intent to shock would change my assessment, |
mzmolly |
Mar-19-06 09:57 AM |
#294 |
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The mice are usually smart enough to stay away... |
benburch |
Mar-19-06 04:27 PM |
#295 |
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Interesting ... |
mzmolly |
Mar-19-06 09:30 PM |
#296 |
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Well, SOME sexual violence is in the eye of the beholder. |
benburch |
Mar-19-06 11:35 PM |
#300 |
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Consent IS key. |
mzmolly |
Mar-20-06 10:57 AM |
#306 |
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Oh, and... |
benburch |
Mar-19-06 11:51 PM |
#302 |
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I'm certain many people role play. |
mzmolly |
Mar-20-06 10:58 AM |
#307 |
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I really don't think so. |
benburch |
Mar-20-06 02:36 PM |
#308 |
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SHE is the aggressor, which is less intimidating |
mzmolly |
Mar-20-06 02:45 PM |
#309 |
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There was this "puppetry of the penis" show that was very popular |
impeachdubya |
Mar-14-06 07:14 PM |
#204 |
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They did a national tour. |
mzmolly |
Mar-14-06 07:27 PM |
#205 |
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"better in concept than in actuality" |
impeachdubya |
Mar-14-06 10:26 PM |
#213 |
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Likely so. |
mzmolly |
Mar-14-06 11:16 PM |
#216 |
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Ah, you gotta love the internet. |
impeachdubya |
Mar-15-06 12:49 AM |
#218 |
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LOL |
mzmolly |
Mar-15-06 12:34 PM |
#221 |
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Personally, I don't carry Max Hardcore |
mongo |
Mar-14-06 02:24 PM |
#171 |
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I'll have to take your word for it. |
mzmolly |
Mar-14-06 02:29 PM |
#174 |
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Sells like "mad"? |
benburch |
Mar-18-06 06:33 PM |
#289 |
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That's the same reason I didn't vote |
mtnsnake |
Mar-13-06 02:22 PM |
#99 |
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I have no problem with it so long as it is not into weird stuff. |
Zynx |
Mar-13-06 02:14 PM |
#94 |
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What's weird? I like hirsute. Some like S&M. What's weird, |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-13-06 02:20 PM |
#97 |
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FWIW, this is what customs considers obscene in the UK |
Monkey see Monkey Do |
Mar-13-06 03:18 PM |
#106 |
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I consider that all to be in my "weird" category. |
Zynx |
Mar-13-06 05:35 PM |
#117 |
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Male - Other |
slackmaster |
Mar-13-06 02:58 PM |
#105 |
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Smut that works for me is normal/healthy. |
geniph |
Mar-13-06 04:12 PM |
#108 |
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Lol! |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-14-06 06:33 AM |
#139 |
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Isn't what you like called erotica? |
mongo |
Mar-14-06 02:29 PM |
#173 |
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If everyone involved is a consenting adult, what they do with their bodies |
impeachdubya |
Mar-13-06 04:22 PM |
#109 |
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REAL AMERICANS DON'T CENSOR |
iconoclastNYC |
Mar-13-06 04:37 PM |
#110 |
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It's In The Eye Of The Beholder. It's None Of Anyone Elses Damn Business! |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Mar-13-06 04:42 PM |
#111 |
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I'd have to say that cases of rape and sexual assault would go up if not |
Raydawg1234 |
Mar-13-06 04:56 PM |
#113 |
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what about the double standard, there are men in porno's too. |
Raydawg1234 |
Mar-13-06 05:10 PM |
#115 |
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Depends whether you define Fox News as "Porn". In any case... |
mwooldri |
Mar-13-06 05:12 PM |
#116 |
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If you're really getting off from watching FOX News, that's your business. |
impeachdubya |
Mar-13-06 07:36 PM |
#118 |
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I can't believe there is even still a debate on "porn" |
walldude |
Mar-13-06 10:19 PM |
#123 |
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'Cuz some people get off on watching other adults in consensual behavior |
impeachdubya |
Mar-13-06 10:29 PM |
#125 |
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Other: it can be normal and healthy OR objectifying |
WildEyedLiberal |
Mar-13-06 10:30 PM |
#126 |
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in my experience, most commercial smut falls into the first category. |
impeachdubya |
Mar-13-06 10:46 PM |
#127 |
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Another hairy lover! Me too! |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-14-06 06:38 AM |
#140 |
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Yeah, this brazillian waxing trend does absolutely nothing for me. |
impeachdubya |
Mar-14-06 10:19 PM |
#212 |
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Can you both use porn & acknowledge the harmful effects of objectification |
omega minimo |
Mar-13-06 11:01 PM |
#129 |
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Not mutally exclusive -- but hard to define. |
mongo |
Mar-14-06 02:59 PM |
#178 |
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The first step would be better understanding of objectification and the |
omega minimo |
Mar-14-06 08:28 PM |
#208 |
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self delete |
impeachdubya |
Mar-15-06 05:42 PM |
#225 |
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Is "desensitization" still relevant if the source of these dubious"facts" |
impeachdubya |
Mar-15-06 11:21 PM |
#226 |
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ETA you know I don't like to get thrust into someone else's argument |
omega minimo |
Mar-16-06 10:38 AM |
#227 |
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Okay, but you mentioned 'desensitization' being relevant. Never mind that |
impeachdubya |
Mar-16-06 11:24 AM |
#229 |
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Methinks debunkers doth protest too much |
omega minimo |
Mar-16-06 11:52 AM |
#231 |
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Sure you do. I'm sure there are pro-lifers and creation "scientists" who |
impeachdubya |
Mar-16-06 02:01 PM |
#232 |
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See, I'm not really part of that argument you're having with whoever |
omega minimo |
Mar-16-06 03:28 PM |
#233 |
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I think you're right, and this thread has earned a decent burial. |
impeachdubya |
Mar-16-06 03:56 PM |
#234 |
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Porn isn't just about women. |
mondo joe |
Mar-13-06 11:02 PM |
#130 |
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You just pull that bus over to the side of the double entendre highway |
impeachdubya |
Mar-14-06 02:13 AM |
#131 |
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Sorry, did not mean to exclude anyone (I'm bi meself). The thing |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-14-06 02:06 PM |
#167 |
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people need to... |
quantessd |
Mar-14-06 02:24 AM |
#132 |
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In case no one has said it, yet- |
impeachdubya |
Mar-14-06 03:30 AM |
#135 |
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Yes, Welcome to D.U.! |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-14-06 06:40 AM |
#141 |
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As a female who worked in porn for years..... |
readmoreoften |
Mar-14-06 02:58 AM |
#134 |
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I like your post |
blogslut |
Mar-14-06 09:34 AM |
#145 |
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My vote is Male: Other. And very much what readmoreoften said... |
hunter |
Mar-14-06 11:25 AM |
#151 |
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If this were virtual reality |
mongo |
Mar-14-06 03:18 PM |
#180 |
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Sex workers have always had shitty working conditions. |
mzmolly |
Mar-14-06 07:34 PM |
#207 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Mar-14-06 10:36 PM |
#214 |
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You call me what you like. |
mzmolly |
Mar-14-06 11:14 PM |
#215 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Mar-15-06 12:10 AM |
#217 |
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Your the one who attacked women who take issue with the industry your |
mzmolly |
Mar-15-06 12:31 PM |
#220 |
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If you really want to help... |
readmoreoften |
Mar-16-06 05:14 PM |
#240 |
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I'm going to take time to consider what you've posted. |
mzmolly |
Mar-16-06 10:55 PM |
#242 |
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First I want to respond to the statements you made which troubled me. |
mzmolly |
Mar-17-06 09:42 AM |
#246 |
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Porn is what the viewer deems it to be |
sandnsea |
Mar-14-06 03:54 AM |
#136 |
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There is a lot of truth in this... nt. |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-14-06 07:03 AM |
#142 |
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Well, the results are in! |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-14-06 09:55 AM |
#147 |
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Lol...My other toy has tits |
OxQQme |
Mar-14-06 10:52 AM |
#149 |
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Welcome to D.U.! |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-14-06 02:19 PM |
#169 |
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Porn desensitives the viewer |
debbierlus |
Mar-14-06 11:08 AM |
#150 |
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Do you feel the same way about gay porn? n/t |
kgfnally |
Mar-14-06 11:40 AM |
#155 |
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"It also desensitizes arousal. More and more extreme porn |
Puglover |
Mar-14-06 11:55 AM |
#158 |
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I think there are |
plcdude |
Mar-14-06 12:04 PM |
#160 |
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interesting |
quantessd |
Mar-14-06 02:18 PM |
#168 |
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Welcome to D.U.! |
Strong Atheist |
Mar-14-06 02:30 PM |
#176 |
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This post is 100% speculation, 0% factual basis. |
mondo joe |
Mar-14-06 02:29 PM |
#175 |
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No, it is NOT speculation. Porn can be VERY damaging. |
debbierlus |
Mar-15-06 12:52 PM |
#223 |
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"Dr. Victor Cline"- Now THERE'S a guy without an obvious agenda: |
impeachdubya |
Mar-15-06 03:21 PM |
#224 |
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I like my evidence to be scientific, not religious belief based. |
mondo joe |
Mar-18-06 05:26 PM |
#284 |
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I think it does exactly the opposite |
slackmaster |
Mar-14-06 03:06 PM |
#179 |
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Most women don't like doggie style? |
mongo |
Mar-14-06 03:33 PM |
#185 |
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"most women get nothing out of that position" |
redqueen |
Mar-14-06 03:44 PM |
#187 |
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Great minds think alike |
mongo |
Mar-14-06 03:59 PM |
#190 |
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i like being on my hands and knees |
lionesspriyanka |
Mar-14-06 05:18 PM |
#201 |
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There's a lot to be said for that position |
geniph |
Mar-16-06 04:30 PM |
#235 |
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"most women get nothing out of that position" |
Iniquitous Bunny |
Mar-18-06 05:08 PM |
#282 |
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the thing that's interesting to me about porn |
nemo137 |
Mar-14-06 05:15 PM |
#200 |
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Probably Not Unhealthy For Most Folks |
Southpawkicker |
Mar-14-06 07:32 PM |
#206 |
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But should we tailor our laws for those few |
geniph |
Mar-16-06 04:32 PM |
#236 |
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Depends on the type of porn |
killbotfactory |
Mar-14-06 08:39 PM |
#209 |
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Have you seen the Netherlands new immigration law? |
savemefromdumbya |
Mar-16-06 10:42 AM |
#228 |
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I'm so there. n/t |
impeachdubya |
Mar-16-06 11:37 PM |
#243 |
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First |
CovertOP |
Mar-16-06 04:45 PM |
#237 |
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Well... The Porn *I* Look At Does NOT Objectify Or Degrade Women... |
arwalden |
Mar-16-06 04:52 PM |
#238 |
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Well, hopefully it would depend on the man... |
impeachdubya |
Mar-21-06 12:42 AM |
#310 |
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Other: There are different types of porn. |
progressivebydesign |
Mar-16-06 04:56 PM |
#239 |
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I'm touching myself again! |
MadisonProgressive |
Mar-17-06 12:15 AM |
#244 |
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How many people's sexual fantasies are exclusively Nice? |
Kailassa |
Mar-17-06 01:17 PM |
#249 |
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make mine 'erotica' please, thank you... |
bridgit |
Mar-18-06 12:47 PM |
#252 |
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I like a good porno movie to get the motor humming |
Ksec |
Mar-18-06 01:27 PM |
#262 |
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One question. |
Finnfan |
Mar-18-06 01:46 PM |
#264 |
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Tempting as that idea is... |
impeachdubya |
Mar-18-06 03:21 PM |
#275 |
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The thread that would not die |
mongo |
Mar-18-06 02:26 PM |
#269 |
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And six times... |
benburch |
Mar-18-06 05:15 PM |
#283 |
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Porn is healthy and even normal |
bigwillq |
Mar-18-06 05:51 PM |
#286 |
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Harlequin Romances are Smutty. :P |
Pryderi |
Mar-19-06 07:45 AM |
#293 |
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There is nothing wrong with pornography. |
MrsGrumpy |
Mar-19-06 09:35 PM |
#297 |
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Porn ,like anything else, is only bad... |
Feron |
Mar-19-06 11:12 PM |
#299 |
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How old were you when you sneeked a peek at Playboy/ how about |
Imagevision |
Mar-20-06 12:42 AM |
#304 |
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sexual repression = perversions and crime |
upi402 |
Mar-20-06 12:49 AM |
#305 |