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Thu Jan-05-06 04:49 PM
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| 48. ***Here is a post by Peace Patriot on planted WMDs and a wider scheme |
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Edited on Thu Jan-05-06 05:12 PM by Nothing Without Hope
from months ago: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... Read the whole thing - it will make you think. Peace Patriot also believes that Judith Miller was on-site in Iraq (with her oddly high-level security clearance) in order to "report" the "discovered" WMDs. Another plausible Peace Patriot theory: David Kelly was assassinated because he knew too much about the scheme. (One of his last emails apparently was to Judith Miller.) K & R - this needs to be documented and exposed. ETA - this was posted before I saw Peace Patriot's additional posts upthread in this current thread. All of these aspects of the story do fit together and explain a great deal of otherwise unexplained facts. I also never believed that punishing Joseph Wilson for something he had ALREADY done was the only motivation for the panicked calling of multiple journalists to out Valerie Plame and destroy the secrecy of her cover company. There had to be another reason - and removing the WMD oversight and expertise of Plame and Brewster-Jennings in time to conceal the WMD plant mission would certainly be worthy of some panic. Wurmser was probably centrally involved in both Plamegate and the WMD planting scheme. |
| -PLAME/AIPACGATE UPDATE: OSP tried to plant WMD in Iraq. |
robertpaulsen |
Jan-05-06 02:29 PM |
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Why does this not surprise me? |
FrustratedDemInNC |
Jan-05-06 02:36 PM |
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Remember when Cheney said "We KNOW where they are." |
Chipper Chat |
Jan-06-06 01:57 AM |
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Per Rumsfeld |
FearofFutility |
Jan-06-06 07:48 AM |
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US tried to plant WMDs, failed: whistleblower |
Al-CIAda |
Jan-05-06 02:37 PM |
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I want to see public hangings. n/t |
wtbymark |
Jan-05-06 02:41 PM |
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This is insane. These whistle-blowers are being completely ignored. |
Just Me |
Jan-05-06 03:51 PM |
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All part of their plan |
EVDebs |
Jan-05-06 04:06 PM |
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This would have to include Task Force 121 and then begs question |
EVDebs |
Jan-05-06 04:00 PM |
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TF21 is TF20 Renamed: |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-06-06 11:05 AM |
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I did a double take at the date |
gilpo |
Jan-05-06 04:14 PM |
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Don't worry be happy. Read post #18 and breathe calmly now... |
EVDebs |
Jan-05-06 04:21 PM |
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Hi gilpo!! |
newyawker99 |
Jan-05-06 05:23 PM |
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Thank you for your knowledge and memory! |
lostnfound |
Jan-06-06 02:40 PM |
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Makes sense. They planted the "insurgents" too: |
arcane1 |
Jan-05-06 02:39 PM |
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That one bothers you too doesn't it? It just eats at me n/t |
NNN0LHI |
Jan-05-06 03:57 PM |
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You aren't the only one.... n/t |
Poll_Blind |
Jan-05-06 04:57 PM |
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me too |
leftchick |
Jan-06-06 07:51 AM |
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Ahem. Chalabi as an Iranian spy is something we don't want to discuss |
EVDebs |
Jan-05-06 04:02 PM |
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Astroturf insurgency. Create a problem where none exists. |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-05-06 08:04 PM |
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that's already been forgotten |
tatertop |
Jan-06-06 02:30 PM |
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that's because the 2 Brits weren't trying to marry one another |
arcane1 |
Jan-06-06 05:08 PM |
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Obviously, this means they knew there were no WMDs beforehand |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-05-06 02:42 PM |
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The better to build the 14 Enduring Bases... |
EVDebs |
Jan-05-06 04:10 PM |
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Permanent U.S. military presence. No way in hell that will be tolerated. |
Just Me |
Jan-05-06 04:19 PM |
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R's in Congress are hoping you won't notice until AFTER the '06 elections |
EVDebs |
Jan-05-06 04:23 PM |
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It's not their blood, it's not their treasure. So there are no limits. nt |
glitch |
Jan-05-06 05:00 PM |
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Which is precisely why my concern, as all patriots' concerns should,... |
Just Me |
Jan-05-06 06:48 PM |
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I thought we would find planted WMD's |
ItsTheMediaStupid |
Jan-05-06 04:19 PM |
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k&r |
Stephanie |
Jan-05-06 02:59 PM |
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So..... |
Me. |
Jan-05-06 03:14 PM |
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I was asking similar questions in 2004 on Plame Thread 6 |
robertpaulsen |
Jan-05-06 03:35 PM |
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Oh yeah. Here's more Wurmser info, courtesy of H2O Man. |
robertpaulsen |
Jan-05-06 03:48 PM |
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Wurmser And A Guy Named Maloof |
Me. |
Jan-05-06 03:57 PM |
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Great find Me. Maloof surfaces in dailykos research too! |
robertpaulsen |
Jan-05-06 04:33 PM |
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While It Was Connected To The OSP |
Me. |
Jan-05-06 05:41 PM |
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CTEG. Everyone at DU should remember that group. |
robertpaulsen |
Jan-05-06 05:51 PM |
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You Might Also Find This Interesting |
Me. |
Jan-05-06 06:29 PM |
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I sure do! This is also interesting: a Maloof-Judith Miller connection? |
robertpaulsen |
Jan-05-06 07:23 PM |
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That Really Piqued My Interest |
Me. |
Jan-05-06 09:26 PM |
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Oh my! Is there anyone in neo-con circles Judy Miller ISN'T in bed with? |
robertpaulsen |
Jan-06-06 02:19 PM |
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What I Also Want To Know Is Why She Tipped Off The Charity |
Me. |
Jan-06-06 03:31 PM |
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Did a double take on your 2nd link. Are these morans planning Armageddon? |
robertpaulsen |
Jan-05-06 05:33 PM |
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Not As CT As One Might Think |
Me. |
Jan-05-06 06:26 PM |
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Here's more from Apocalypse Wurmser |
robertpaulsen |
Jan-05-06 07:10 PM |
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What's Really Stunning To Me |
Me. |
Jan-05-06 07:21 PM |
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Wurmser & Wife - And A Noble Cause...... |
global1 |
Jan-06-06 12:37 AM |
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Certainly Within The Realm Of Possibility |
Me. |
Jan-06-06 02:03 PM |
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Additional evidence the neoconsters intentionally defrauded the USA! |
Just Me |
Jan-05-06 03:22 PM |
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hand-cuffs are too good for them |
arcane1 |
Jan-05-06 04:48 PM |
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that is just too wacky to believe! |
G_j |
Jan-05-06 03:26 PM |
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It's all part of Bush's 'incompetence and ineffectiveness' strategery |
EVDebs |
Jan-05-06 04:05 PM |
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Wasn't there some speculation that that is why they wanted |
Sydnie |
Jan-05-06 04:07 PM |
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So why did Andrea Mitchell say Plame's name was common knowledge ? |
EVDebs |
Jan-05-06 04:12 PM |
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Ohhh Doris Day and Rock Hudson |
Sydnie |
Jan-05-06 04:25 PM |
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Poster was Peace Patriot. If that helps. |
Burried News |
Jan-05-06 07:57 PM |
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It is IMHO the ultimate irony |
stellanoir |
Jan-05-06 04:07 PM |
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Nice that this is finally coming out. |
tasteblind |
Jan-05-06 04:08 PM |
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David Kay and Hatfill made the WMDs to be planted |
happydreams |
Jan-05-06 04:09 PM |
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Giant vats of butyric acid for stink bombs OH MY ! |
EVDebs |
Jan-05-06 04:19 PM |
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It makes sense. I mean Kay was hired to find the WMD's that |
happydreams |
Jan-05-06 04:26 PM |
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Task Force 121 and the Israeli tie in...check it out. |
EVDebs |
Jan-05-06 04:33 PM |
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Hatfill? The guy investigated in the anthrax crimes? |
Just Me |
Jan-05-06 04:22 PM |
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Yea, he apparently worked with Kay manufacturing the WMD's. |
happydreams |
Jan-05-06 04:27 PM |
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No shit!!! WOW!!! |
Just Me |
Jan-05-06 04:46 PM |
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This story is really confusing: Hatfill fallguy, DAvid Kelley Death, CIA |
happydreams |
Jan-05-06 04:53 PM |
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FDR was definitely right about that: NOTHING in politics happens,... |
Just Me |
Jan-05-06 05:04 PM |
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Scott Ritter sez |
eridani |
Jan-05-06 04:10 PM |
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K & R n./t |
AntiFascist |
Jan-05-06 04:12 PM |
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These People *C - Nothing Is Beneath Them, If They Where Trying.... |
global1 |
Jan-05-06 04:21 PM |
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It's easy for me to believe they were involved in 9/11 today |
ItsTheMediaStupid |
Jan-05-06 04:24 PM |
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Robert Stinnett's book Day of Deceit on Pearl Harbor and FDR's |
EVDebs |
Jan-05-06 04:37 PM |
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The WMD-planting theory of Treasongate. |
Peace Patriot |
Jan-05-06 04:27 PM |
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One of the better objections to this theory, and my answer to it. |
Peace Patriot |
Jan-05-06 04:34 PM |
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Heavy stuff. But if the Bushies could keep the |
happydreams |
Jan-05-06 04:45 PM |
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Well, hell, they willingly deceived the American people!!! |
Just Me |
Jan-05-06 04:56 PM |
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Thanks for spelling it out so articulately, Peace Patriot. |
robertpaulsen |
Jan-05-06 04:51 PM |
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I second that thanks. Great work PP. |
happydreams |
Jan-05-06 04:54 PM |
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Third! |
Octafish |
Jan-05-06 09:30 PM |
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Kick!! |
happydreams |
Jan-09-06 03:21 PM |
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Yes, Peace Patriot - thanks for your effort and insight. Let's hope we |
Nothing Without Hope |
Jan-05-06 10:48 PM |
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Kudos to you, Peace Patriot, for seeing the forest for the trees. |
bleever |
Jan-05-06 08:21 PM |
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I agree. I caught your 1st conjecture |
FredStembottom |
Jan-05-06 11:19 PM |
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What about the 200 nuclear triggers??? |
Usrename |
Jan-05-06 09:15 PM |
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Pentagon whistleblower Nelda Rogers on WMD's planted |
happydreams |
Jan-05-06 04:35 PM |
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Is this in Conyer's "Constitutional Crisis? If it is. I'll accept it. |
HereSince1628 |
Jan-05-06 04:52 PM |
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***Here is a post by Peace Patriot on planted WMDs and a wider scheme |
Nothing Without Hope |
Jan-05-06 04:49 PM |
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This theory is more plausible than anything coming of corporate media. nt |
glitch |
Jan-05-06 05:02 PM |
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The corporate media has a vested interest in not connecting the dots. |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-05-06 08:49 PM |
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Judith Miller was DEFINITELY in Iraq for this, if I interpret RS correctly |
robertpaulsen |
Jan-05-06 06:02 PM |
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***Fits Judith Miller's weirdly high-level security clearance in Iraq: |
Nothing Without Hope |
Jan-05-06 09:53 PM |
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***Wash Post article on Judith Miller's bizarre behavior in Iraq: |
Nothing Without Hope |
Jan-05-06 10:40 PM |
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She was with MET Alpha |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-05-06 11:05 PM |
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Thanks for clarifying the timeline, lala_rawraw. |
robertpaulsen |
Jan-06-06 01:32 PM |
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***DAVID KELLY'S fatal (?) connection with JUDITH MILLER - re WMDs? |
Nothing Without Hope |
Jan-05-06 10:24 PM |
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K&R |
DemReadingDU |
Jan-05-06 05:27 PM |
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An Aussie link to planted WMD's?Another possible whistleblower. |
happydreams |
Jan-05-06 06:01 PM |
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interesting |
annabanana |
Jan-05-06 06:29 PM |
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k to the r |
sniffa |
Jan-05-06 07:37 PM |
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An unnamed source saying unnamed Americans |
Eric J in MN |
Jan-05-06 09:16 PM |
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Sources |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-05-06 11:20 PM |
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Not only is the source anonymous, but so are the people |
Eric J in MN |
Jan-05-06 11:28 PM |
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k, thanks for the tip |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-06-06 12:09 AM |
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Remember this article? |
serryjw |
Jan-05-06 09:19 PM |
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Excellent info, as always! Thank you robertpaulsen! |
Octafish |
Jan-05-06 09:39 PM |
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The Turkish connection yet again - Turkey sure turns up frequently |
Nothing Without Hope |
Jan-05-06 10:44 PM |
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And There's The Hastert Angle |
Me. |
Jan-05-06 11:37 PM |
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Great find, Octafish! |
robertpaulsen |
Jan-06-06 03:10 PM |
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I would suggest |
H2O Man |
Jan-06-06 06:19 PM |
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It seems these guys will stop at nothing... n/t |
Stand and Fight |
Jan-05-06 10:29 PM |
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And The Corporate Press is Silent, That is Their Job |
Clara T |
Jan-05-06 10:37 PM |
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Hah! I knew it! |
kimpossible |
Jan-05-06 11:06 PM |
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kick for info |
Clara T |
Jan-05-06 11:26 PM |
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Where does Iran fit in all this? |
passy |
Jan-06-06 02:52 AM |
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OMG. This is HUGE!!! |
Rainscents |
Jan-06-06 03:06 AM |
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i posted about this in nov ..and it went nowhere here... |
flyarm |
Jan-06-06 03:08 AM |
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SOMEBODY SHOULD BE HUNG FOR THIS |
BamaBecky |
Jan-06-06 07:21 AM |
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kick for info |
Clara T |
Jan-06-06 08:31 AM |
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read posts #39 & 42 by PP for info, very interesting.... |
stop the bleeding |
Jan-06-06 08:35 AM |
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. |
Al-CIAda |
Jan-06-06 12:23 PM |
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Kick (everyone should read this) |
Wordie |
Jan-06-06 03:02 PM |
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I was wondering if they would get caught doing it or not; |
greiner3 |
Jan-06-06 03:29 PM |
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. |
Al-CIAda |
Jan-07-06 11:18 AM |
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Birthday kick |
robertpaulsen |
Jan-07-06 02:11 PM |
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I truly am surprised they never pulled it off - planting the wmd material |
Imagevision |
Jan-07-06 02:17 PM |
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K & R, amazing read.........n/t |
never cry wolf |
Jan-07-06 03:25 PM |
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Task Force 20 |
Clara T |
Jan-07-06 04:37 PM |
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Thanks. TF20=TF121. Look what they did. |
robertpaulsen |
Jan-09-06 01:51 PM |
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Kick for Larissa on Air America now! |
robertpaulsen |
Jan-08-06 07:04 PM |
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no sweat and |
stop the bleeding |
Jan-09-06 09:22 AM |
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. |
Al-CIAda |
Jan-09-06 09:10 AM |
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Not surprised by this, but where are the WMD now? |
Norquist Nemesis |
Jan-09-06 09:25 AM |
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I can't help but think that Joe Wilson was a ruse |
dogday |
Jan-09-06 09:29 AM |
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. |
Al-CIAda |
Jan-09-06 01:29 PM |
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Could You Imagine...? |
stepnw1f |
Jan-09-06 03:39 PM |
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Anyone open for discussion on Stephen Cambone? |
robertpaulsen |
Jan-09-06 04:03 PM |
#135 |
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Anyone? Able Danger? |
robertpaulsen |
Jan-09-06 05:45 PM |
#136 |
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