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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 05:07 PM
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36. Suspected by many. Considered not proven by most.
I'm suggesting a list of bonafide, past conspiracies, proven to have actually existed and been put into action.

While I too find Wellstones crash highly suspicious, no court of law has ruled it an assassination. Thus, it is in the tinfoil range, where some think it was a conspiracy and others called it something else, like an accident in this case.

Nixon/Watergate, OTOH, is a fact. Multiple people planned the Watergate break-in. Multiple people executed it, multiple people tried to keep it secret. And enough of it came out and has been verified to ensure all that it did all happen.
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  -Conspiracies only exist in the minds of crazy people linazelle  Jan-05-06 01:33 PM   #0 
  - And what is the government's version of what happened on  Benhurst   Jan-05-06 01:36 PM   #1 
  - They didn't use a Lone Gunman this time out, breaking with tradition.  EVDebs   Jan-05-06 09:09 PM   #64 
  - DId Ya See That Thread Yesterday  stepnw1f   Jan-05-06 01:37 PM   #2 
  - I didn't see the thread you mention. What thread was that? nt  linazelle   Jan-05-06 01:41 PM   #3 
     - Somebody Posted a Poll  stepnw1f   Jan-05-06 01:46 PM   #5 
     - Here It Is  stepnw1f   Jan-05-06 02:37 PM   #25 
        - What's funny is that you look at the responses and only a small  linazelle   Jan-05-06 05:25 PM   #41 
  - The Holocaust  CJCRANE   Jan-05-06 01:41 PM   #4 
  - Yes. It's amazing what real conspiracies look like (the Holocaust)  linazelle   Jan-05-06 01:47 PM   #7 
  - But now there's a conspiracy theory  Marie26   Jan-06-06 10:10 AM   #87 
  - I agree. Abramoff, damn conspiracist.  HR_Pufnstuf   Jan-05-06 01:47 PM   #6 
  - The "spir" in conspiracy means "breath"  BurtWorm   Jan-05-06 01:49 PM   #8 
  - Really? Where did you find that definition?  linazelle   Jan-05-06 01:55 PM   #12 
     - They are connected. The "spire" in a church is symbolic  NCevilDUer   Jan-05-06 02:15 PM   #15 
     - Sure, that's what it's about.  BurtWorm   Jan-05-06 02:18 PM   #17 
  - This group in power projects everything  Nite Owl   Jan-05-06 01:49 PM   #9 
  - You are so right. It gets tiring looking at lie after lie....you wonder  linazelle   Jan-05-06 01:51 PM   #11 
  - Right. They are calling the people who do not trust Rove & al - crazies,  applegrove   Jan-05-06 03:36 PM   #26 
  - Boy. That Just About Says It All, Nite Owl.  AuntiBush   Jan-05-06 08:52 PM   #61 
  - Washington, D.C. is constructed of conspiracies made by.......  Double T   Jan-05-06 01:50 PM   #10 
  - Right now I'm reading  MountainLaurel   Jan-05-06 01:57 PM   #13 
  - Start a list of proven past conspiracys here:  Ready4Change   Jan-05-06 02:14 PM   #14 
  - Teapot Dome.  NCevilDUer   Jan-05-06 02:18 PM   #16 
  - The JFK and RFK and MLK,JR. assassinations....  jus_the_facts   Jan-05-06 02:19 PM   #18 
  - I'll go ahead and say Paul Wellstone's death too....  jus_the_facts   Jan-05-06 02:21 PM   #20 
  - Suspected by many. Considered not proven by most.  Ready4Change   Jan-05-06 05:07 PM   #36 
  - I'd give this the nod. Some might not.  Ready4Change   Jan-05-06 05:25 PM   #42 
  - 9/11  Al-CIAda   Jan-05-06 02:21 PM   #19 
  - Gotta apply tinfoil here.  Ready4Change   Jan-05-06 05:16 PM   #38 
  - iran/contra  rman   Jan-05-06 02:22 PM   #21 
  - Bingo.  Ready4Change   Jan-05-06 05:19 PM   #39 
  - Voter Fraud from 2000 to today.  jus_the_facts   Jan-05-06 02:24 PM   #22 
  - Again, gotta apply tinfoil.  Ready4Change   Jan-05-06 05:22 PM   #40 
     - Nothing's been proven from he 2000 election? Votes weren't  linazelle   Jan-05-06 05:28 PM   #43 
        - Oh, I'm with ya. But the courts aren't.  Ready4Change   Jan-05-06 05:38 PM   #45 
  - Somebody mentioned the Holocaust earlier. nt  linazelle   Jan-05-06 02:27 PM   #23 
  - Dual conspiracies, I think.  Ready4Change   Jan-05-06 05:30 PM   #44 
  - What's your definition of proven?  Balbus   Jan-05-06 02:35 PM   #24 
  - 2000 election going to someone other than the person elected is well  applegrove   Jan-05-06 03:38 PM   #27 
  - All of it are theories...  Balbus   Jan-05-06 04:30 PM   #33 
     - Patterns of behaviour are proof. All the ones I say have good evidence  applegrove   Jan-05-06 06:58 PM   #50 
     - GOP not proven accountable for turning the 2000 election into a race  applegrove   Jan-05-06 07:37 PM   #56 
        - And who has been held accountable for that?  Balbus   Jan-05-06 10:06 PM   #74 
           - There could be a conspiracy to get the election even when they didn't have  applegrove   Jan-05-06 11:00 PM   #75 
              - but this sub thread was asking for "proven" conspiracy theories.  Balbus   Jan-06-06 08:11 AM   #83 
                 - Yep  Ready4Change   Jan-07-06 09:35 AM   #93 
  - I agree, hard to say.  Ready4Change   Jan-05-06 05:50 PM   #47 
  - Allende  MountainLaurel   Jan-05-06 03:54 PM   #29 
  - Iraq-gate  Octafish   Jan-05-06 04:32 PM   #34 
  - Not sure exactly what action/era you are refering to.  Ready4Change   Jan-05-06 06:26 PM   #48 
     - That's Rummy shaking Saddam's hand in (IIRC) 1983  Monkey see Monkey Do   Jan-05-06 08:12 PM   #58 
        - Thanks for the info.  Ready4Change   Jan-05-06 09:20 PM   #68 
  - Operation Gladio  rman   Jan-06-06 04:19 AM   #76 
  - Operation Mockingbird  rman   Jan-06-06 04:20 AM   #77 
  - COINTELPRO  rman   Jan-06-06 04:21 AM   #78 
  - My difficulties with the above 3 items...  Ready4Change   Jan-06-06 09:45 AM   #84 
     - Gladio is considered "clandestine" - not just covert,  rman   Jan-06-06 01:30 PM   #89 
        - I forgot to include Gladio.  Ready4Change   Jan-07-06 09:38 AM   #94 
  - Enron price gouging. WTC air quality EPA cover up. Tobacco & Asbestos  stickdog   Jan-06-06 05:42 AM   #80 
  - Some good ones in there. n/t  Ready4Change   Jan-06-06 09:46 AM   #85 
  - Wikipedia's list pf proven conspiracies.  stickdog   Jan-06-06 05:43 AM   #81 
  - that's almost worthy of a thread on its own  rman   Jan-06-06 01:44 PM   #90 
  - Very good. But how do they skip from Ceasar to GHW Bush?  linazelle   Jan-06-06 01:48 PM   #91 
  - The shootdown of KAL 007 (nt)  stickdog   Jan-06-06 07:03 AM   #82 
  - Certainly a theory.  Ready4Change   Jan-06-06 10:02 AM   #86 
  - Aaron Burr Conspiracy  Marie26   Jan-06-06 01:03 PM   #88 
     - That sounds like a good one.  Ready4Change   Jan-07-06 09:28 AM   #92 
  - researchers and detectives connect the dots  librechik   Jan-05-06 03:42 PM   #28 
  - A word about the word "conspiracy":  pinto   Jan-05-06 04:14 PM   #30 
  - another opponent of shame-based reasoning  dusmcj   Jan-05-06 04:21 PM   #31 
  - Police detectives deal with conspiracy theories everyday...  wildbilln864   Jan-05-06 04:29 PM   #32 
  - Hi wildbilln864!!  newyawker99   Jan-05-06 05:42 PM   #46 
  - Why black & white? Some conspiracies are plausible  A-Schwarzenegger   Jan-05-06 04:44 PM   #35 
  - Nicely reasoned response. nt  linazelle   Jan-05-06 05:09 PM   #37 
  - i notice you left out 911...  bpilgrim   Jan-05-06 07:08 PM   #53 
     - I dont believe BushCo made it happen or let it happen.  A-Schwarzenegger   Jan-05-06 07:22 PM   #54 
        - i do respect your honesty and so do the 'fucking crazies'  bpilgrim   Jan-05-06 07:37 PM   #55 
  - Isn't one of the characteristics of conspiracies  justabob   Jan-05-06 06:43 PM   #49 
  - Conspiracy implies multiple people, acting in secret.  Ready4Change   Jan-05-06 07:00 PM   #51 
  - Well, an awful lot of people must be crazy...  StraightDope   Jan-05-06 07:00 PM   #52 
  - How about the take out of the democratically elected leader of Zaire  applegrove   Jan-05-06 08:05 PM   #57 
  - From Wikipedia - must meet several of the criteria.  applegrove   Jan-05-06 08:13 PM   #59 
  - the bashers are excellent generalist on DU but when it comes to a specific  bpilgrim   Jan-05-06 08:55 PM   #62 
     - We never have to fear the truth. The scientific, fact based truth. They  applegrove   Jan-05-06 08:57 PM   #63 
        - as i always say...  bpilgrim   Jan-05-06 09:12 PM   #65 
           - You too! We shall overcome - as long as we do it as adults with might,  applegrove   Jan-05-06 09:13 PM   #66 
              - thats what makes DU great  bpilgrim   Jan-05-06 09:18 PM   #67 
                 - Happy New Year!  applegrove   Jan-05-06 09:26 PM   #69 
                 - 2005 DU New Year Slide Show  bpilgrim   Jan-05-06 09:49 PM   #72 
                    - Al Gore, adult, looks like he could have punched out an African elephant  applegrove   Jan-05-06 10:01 PM   #73 
                 - It got me to look up deduction and induction.  Ready4Change   Jan-05-06 09:29 PM   #70 
  - Funny, but isn't Faux News based on a Conspiracy  AuntiBush   Jan-05-06 08:50 PM   #60 
  - the RW just loves the moon landing hoax CT  rman   Jan-06-06 04:23 AM   #79 
  - Besides, the Proper Term is "Coincidence Theory"  radio4progressives   Jan-05-06 09:40 PM   #71 
 

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