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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 10:48 AM
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73. Leahy-not told if it produced any useful information, don't know who
was affected by it. IF IT HAS, the analysis might be different.
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  -#2 -Live coverage of Senate Judiciary Hearing on Domestic Surveillance >>> meganmonkey  Feb-28-06 09:32 AM   #0 
  - Koh on the contradiction between Specter passing legislation  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 09:34 AM   #1 
  - did you let BushCo in on this secret?  rodeodance   Feb-28-06 09:35 AM   #3 
  - YOU CAN WATCH IT WEBCAST HERE  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 09:43 AM   #9 
  - KOH points out that the law was EXCLUSIVE -would Article 2 trump the law?  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 09:35 AM   #2 
  - Can you hit alert on thread one  meganmonkey   Feb-28-06 09:36 AM   #4 
  - Gormley-when matters are done in secret, there is no plaintiff  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 09:37 AM   #5 
  - Woolsey-FISA not constitutional when applied to electronic battlefield  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 09:38 AM   #6 
  - Biden- domestic to domestic- what's the distinction (to root  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 09:41 AM   #7 
  - Woolsey-comparing 9/11 to a battlefield as an apologist for spying  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 09:42 AM   #8 
  - Woolsey and Fein fight- Woolsey says Fein misrepresenting Hayden's  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 09:44 AM   #10 
  - KYL-AG didn't do the analysis-troubled by that....  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 09:45 AM   #11 
  - Heh! Looks like this will be a Woolsey vs Fein match.  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 09:47 AM   #12 
  - Levin asking good questions about port issue  rodeodance   Feb-28-06 09:48 AM   #13 
  - different hearing-this is the Bush Spying on American hearing  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 09:49 AM   #14 
  - Inhofe saying during last adm. we sold airplanes to UEA.--but then says  rodeodance   Feb-28-06 09:51 AM   #15 
     - IT'S THE, 'BUT CLINTON....." defense.  Pryderi   Feb-28-06 09:52 AM   #17 
     - You're talking about a different hearing  meganmonkey   Feb-28-06 09:52 AM   #18 
     - Different hearing rodeodance...  kentuck   Feb-28-06 09:53 AM   #20 
        - oops, sorry.  rodeodance   Feb-28-06 09:55 AM   #23 
  - Feingold up to ask questions  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 09:51 AM   #16 
  - Feingold-Legal theory used to justify purely domestic but also  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 09:53 AM   #19 
  - Youngstown case as limits on Presidential powers  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 09:55 AM   #24 
     - JAYZUS- Feingold asking what limits to ASSASSINATION  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 09:56 AM   #25 
  - Inhofe is patting himself on the back about the china deal that he helped  rodeodance   Feb-28-06 09:54 AM   #21 
  - WHY ISN'T THIS HEARING ON CSPAN??????  Pryderi   Feb-28-06 09:55 AM   #22 
  - Meantime- WEBCAST link here  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 09:57 AM   #26 
  - I guess they only cover it when a Bushco apologist who isn't even  meganmonkey   Feb-28-06 09:58 AM   #28 
  - Interesting assassination example, there, huh?  deutsey   Feb-28-06 09:57 AM   #27 
  - That is just unbelievable-TWO of them saying President can assassinate  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 09:58 AM   #29 
     - Fein-YOU CANNOT SURVEIL OUTSIDE OF FISA-Exclusive  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:00 AM   #30 
     - Gormley-Unless we're prepared to say that the Pres can suspend the  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:02 AM   #31 
     - "Flack Jackets" anyone?  ClayZ   Feb-28-06 10:12 AM   #46 
  - Hatch bringing up the laptop computer example of Woolsey  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:03 AM   #32 
  - Hatch insulting the panel "No one but Woolsey has a full understanding  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:03 AM   #33 
  - Thanks for staying on top of this!!  meganmonkey   Feb-28-06 10:05 AM   #35 
  - Hatch is such an asshole and responsible for so many vile things  deutsey   Feb-28-06 10:05 AM   #36 
  - Woolsey arguing "Moore's Law",.. the technology changes things  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:05 AM   #34 
  - Woolsey" Not the president's fault we're on the battlefield"  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:06 AM   #39 
     - Specter-AG testified that program triggered only when NSA career  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:08 AM   #42 
  - Orrin Unctious Hatch ... the Senate's Uriah Heep  TahitiNut   Feb-28-06 10:05 AM   #37 
  - I agree- the constitution does not say "Reasonable SUSPICION"  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:34 AM   #63 
  - It's not Bush's fault that we're on the battle field?  deutsey   Feb-28-06 10:06 AM   #38 
  - It seems I have been demonstrating a new mantra F*CK YOU WOOLSEY!  OmmmSweetOmmm   Feb-28-06 10:06 AM   #40 
  - "It is hard"....  ClayZ   Feb-28-06 10:07 AM   #41 
  - Specter-clearly troubled by the career professional making the judgements  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:10 AM   #43 
  - Specter- "Gang of 8" -heh, seems he doesn't like that either  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:11 AM   #44 
  - Limit information to so-called "Gang of 8"?  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:12 AM   #45 
     - Fein-IF AG approached FISA court with info from NSA program  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:14 AM   #47 
     - Kyl-IF intell committees regularly briefed, certified IG report  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:17 AM   #48 
        - Kyl-existing program, briefed to intel pgm-IF there is domestic  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:18 AM   #49 
     - They're elevating a purely administrative/procedural convenience ...  TahitiNut   Feb-28-06 10:19 AM   #50 
  - OMIGOD-I see the direction the Repubs want to take this -OUT Of the courts  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:20 AM   #51 
  - Not only that, but not even the entire committee.  TahitiNut   Feb-28-06 10:25 AM   #57 
     - Essentially, having the info come to an "oversight committee"  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:28 AM   #58 
        - That's exactly the point.  TahitiNut   Feb-28-06 10:36 AM   #65 
           - Not a Proud Moment  maxrandb   Feb-28-06 11:04 AM   #81 
  - Koh-In what way has the FISA court stood in the way NOW????  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:21 AM   #52 
  - Use ther POWER of the Purse!  ClayZ   Feb-28-06 10:25 AM   # 
  - Schumer- Everyone is ignorant of details of NSA spying program  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:23 AM   #53 
  - We haven't even gotten answers to our followup questions of AG  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:23 AM   #54 
  - Fein-Administration has concealed EVERYTHING  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:25 AM   #55 
  - KOH-Irresponsible to pass new legislation when you don't know  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:25 AM   #56 
  - Kmiec-"Principled Dogfight between Exec and Congress"  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:29 AM   #59 
  - I really, really, really detest Kmiec  TahitiNut   Feb-28-06 10:29 AM   #60 
  - Same thing with Turner  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:46 AM   #71 
     - Yep. They both confer a kind of Presidential (monarchical) authority ...  TahitiNut   Feb-28-06 10:58 AM   #80 
  - Koh-FISA intended to create a process in which evidence could be used  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:31 AM   #61 
  - FEIN-earlier claims about NSA were without FISA  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:34 AM   #62 
  - Hatch, you asshole, if it doesn't rise to the PROBABLE CAUSE  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:35 AM   #64 
  - So there it is, too..... we either have a PROBABLE CAUSE standard  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:37 AM   #66 
  - I have never felt so strongly that we ARE at a Constitutional crisis  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:39 AM   #67 
  - Koh-public has a right to know what NSA programs have been  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:42 AM   #68 
  - Fein-limits on government doens't mean anemic govt, it means STRONGER  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:43 AM   #69 
  - Fein-bringing up DeWine's proposal in 2002 that the Admin rejected  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:46 AM   #70 
  - The department of redundancy department!  ClayZ   Feb-28-06 10:46 AM   #72 
  - Leahy-not told if it produced any useful information, don't know who  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:48 AM   #73 
  - Fein on Hatch's Reasonable Suspicion-we don't even know  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:49 AM   #74 
  - Koh-if president thinks a law is unconstitutional, he can VETO it  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:53 AM   #75 
  - Woolsey-You Can't Tell the Public what's going on because Al Qaida  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:54 AM   #76 
  - Not about to approve a program we don't understand... yeah sure!  ClayZ   Feb-28-06 10:56 AM   #77 
  - Bush is NOT going to tell unless they, like you said, TAKE AWAY THE MONEY  liveoaktx   Feb-28-06 10:57 AM   #78 
     - Purse Power!  ClayZ   Feb-28-06 10:58 AM   #79 
  - Audio Archive Link  radio4progressives   Feb-28-06 11:24 AM   #82 

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