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Tue Feb-28-06 10:18 AM
Response to Reply #48 |
| 49. Kyl-existing program, briefed to intel pgm-IF there is domestic |
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instances, THEN, IF it decided to do so, would send it to the courts.
OMIGOD.
Kmiec- "deferential form of oversight"
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| -#2 -Live coverage of Senate Judiciary Hearing on Domestic Surveillance >>> |
meganmonkey |
Feb-28-06 09:32 AM |
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Koh on the contradiction between Specter passing legislation |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 09:34 AM |
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did you let BushCo in on this secret? |
rodeodance |
Feb-28-06 09:35 AM |
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YOU CAN WATCH IT WEBCAST HERE |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 09:43 AM |
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KOH points out that the law was EXCLUSIVE -would Article 2 trump the law? |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 09:35 AM |
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Can you hit alert on thread one |
meganmonkey |
Feb-28-06 09:36 AM |
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Gormley-when matters are done in secret, there is no plaintiff |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 09:37 AM |
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Woolsey-FISA not constitutional when applied to electronic battlefield |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 09:38 AM |
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Biden- domestic to domestic- what's the distinction (to root |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 09:41 AM |
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Woolsey-comparing 9/11 to a battlefield as an apologist for spying |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 09:42 AM |
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Woolsey and Fein fight- Woolsey says Fein misrepresenting Hayden's |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 09:44 AM |
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KYL-AG didn't do the analysis-troubled by that.... |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 09:45 AM |
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Heh! Looks like this will be a Woolsey vs Fein match. |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 09:47 AM |
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Levin asking good questions about port issue |
rodeodance |
Feb-28-06 09:48 AM |
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different hearing-this is the Bush Spying on American hearing |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 09:49 AM |
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Inhofe saying during last adm. we sold airplanes to UEA.--but then says |
rodeodance |
Feb-28-06 09:51 AM |
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IT'S THE, 'BUT CLINTON....." defense. |
Pryderi |
Feb-28-06 09:52 AM |
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You're talking about a different hearing |
meganmonkey |
Feb-28-06 09:52 AM |
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Different hearing rodeodance... |
kentuck |
Feb-28-06 09:53 AM |
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oops, sorry. |
rodeodance |
Feb-28-06 09:55 AM |
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Feingold up to ask questions |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 09:51 AM |
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Feingold-Legal theory used to justify purely domestic but also |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 09:53 AM |
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Youngstown case as limits on Presidential powers |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 09:55 AM |
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JAYZUS- Feingold asking what limits to ASSASSINATION |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 09:56 AM |
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Inhofe is patting himself on the back about the china deal that he helped |
rodeodance |
Feb-28-06 09:54 AM |
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WHY ISN'T THIS HEARING ON CSPAN?????? |
Pryderi |
Feb-28-06 09:55 AM |
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Meantime- WEBCAST link here |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 09:57 AM |
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I guess they only cover it when a Bushco apologist who isn't even |
meganmonkey |
Feb-28-06 09:58 AM |
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Interesting assassination example, there, huh? |
deutsey |
Feb-28-06 09:57 AM |
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That is just unbelievable-TWO of them saying President can assassinate |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 09:58 AM |
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Fein-YOU CANNOT SURVEIL OUTSIDE OF FISA-Exclusive |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:00 AM |
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Gormley-Unless we're prepared to say that the Pres can suspend the |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:02 AM |
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"Flack Jackets" anyone? |
ClayZ |
Feb-28-06 10:12 AM |
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Hatch bringing up the laptop computer example of Woolsey |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:03 AM |
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Hatch insulting the panel "No one but Woolsey has a full understanding |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:03 AM |
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Thanks for staying on top of this!! |
meganmonkey |
Feb-28-06 10:05 AM |
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Hatch is such an asshole and responsible for so many vile things |
deutsey |
Feb-28-06 10:05 AM |
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Woolsey arguing "Moore's Law",.. the technology changes things |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:05 AM |
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Woolsey" Not the president's fault we're on the battlefield" |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:06 AM |
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Specter-AG testified that program triggered only when NSA career |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:08 AM |
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Orrin Unctious Hatch ... the Senate's Uriah Heep |
TahitiNut |
Feb-28-06 10:05 AM |
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I agree- the constitution does not say "Reasonable SUSPICION" |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:34 AM |
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It's not Bush's fault that we're on the battle field? |
deutsey |
Feb-28-06 10:06 AM |
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It seems I have been demonstrating a new mantra F*CK YOU WOOLSEY! |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Feb-28-06 10:06 AM |
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"It is hard".... |
ClayZ |
Feb-28-06 10:07 AM |
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Specter-clearly troubled by the career professional making the judgements |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:10 AM |
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Specter- "Gang of 8" -heh, seems he doesn't like that either |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:11 AM |
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Limit information to so-called "Gang of 8"? |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:12 AM |
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Fein-IF AG approached FISA court with info from NSA program |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:14 AM |
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Kyl-IF intell committees regularly briefed, certified IG report |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:17 AM |
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Kyl-existing program, briefed to intel pgm-IF there is domestic |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:18 AM |
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They're elevating a purely administrative/procedural convenience ... |
TahitiNut |
Feb-28-06 10:19 AM |
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OMIGOD-I see the direction the Repubs want to take this -OUT Of the courts |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:20 AM |
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Not only that, but not even the entire committee. |
TahitiNut |
Feb-28-06 10:25 AM |
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Essentially, having the info come to an "oversight committee" |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:28 AM |
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That's exactly the point. |
TahitiNut |
Feb-28-06 10:36 AM |
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Not a Proud Moment |
maxrandb |
Feb-28-06 11:04 AM |
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Koh-In what way has the FISA court stood in the way NOW???? |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:21 AM |
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Use ther POWER of the Purse! |
ClayZ |
Feb-28-06 10:25 AM |
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Schumer- Everyone is ignorant of details of NSA spying program |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:23 AM |
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We haven't even gotten answers to our followup questions of AG |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:23 AM |
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Fein-Administration has concealed EVERYTHING |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:25 AM |
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KOH-Irresponsible to pass new legislation when you don't know |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:25 AM |
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Kmiec-"Principled Dogfight between Exec and Congress" |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:29 AM |
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I really, really, really detest Kmiec |
TahitiNut |
Feb-28-06 10:29 AM |
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Same thing with Turner |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:46 AM |
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Yep. They both confer a kind of Presidential (monarchical) authority ... |
TahitiNut |
Feb-28-06 10:58 AM |
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Koh-FISA intended to create a process in which evidence could be used |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:31 AM |
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FEIN-earlier claims about NSA were without FISA |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:34 AM |
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Hatch, you asshole, if it doesn't rise to the PROBABLE CAUSE |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:35 AM |
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So there it is, too..... we either have a PROBABLE CAUSE standard |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:37 AM |
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I have never felt so strongly that we ARE at a Constitutional crisis |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:39 AM |
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Koh-public has a right to know what NSA programs have been |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:42 AM |
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Fein-limits on government doens't mean anemic govt, it means STRONGER |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:43 AM |
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Fein-bringing up DeWine's proposal in 2002 that the Admin rejected |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:46 AM |
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The department of redundancy department! |
ClayZ |
Feb-28-06 10:46 AM |
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Leahy-not told if it produced any useful information, don't know who |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:48 AM |
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Fein on Hatch's Reasonable Suspicion-we don't even know |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:49 AM |
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Koh-if president thinks a law is unconstitutional, he can VETO it |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:53 AM |
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Woolsey-You Can't Tell the Public what's going on because Al Qaida |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:54 AM |
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Not about to approve a program we don't understand... yeah sure! |
ClayZ |
Feb-28-06 10:56 AM |
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Bush is NOT going to tell unless they, like you said, TAKE AWAY THE MONEY |
liveoaktx |
Feb-28-06 10:57 AM |
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Purse Power! |
ClayZ |
Feb-28-06 10:58 AM |
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Audio Archive Link |
radio4progressives |
Feb-28-06 11:24 AM |
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