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Sun Feb-26-06 01:26 PM
Response to Reply #36 |
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This has gone on far too long!  |
| -2006 will not be our salvation - they CONTROL the voting machines |
debbierlus |
Feb-26-06 11:59 AM |
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you are so right |
pola |
Feb-26-06 12:02 PM |
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Because Conyers and the others can't do it alone -- they need our help |
Trevelyan |
Feb-26-06 12:42 PM |
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I searched for "voting machines" on the DNC website. |
barbaraann |
Feb-26-06 12:04 PM |
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no, check out VoteTrustUSA |
nofoil |
Feb-26-06 04:48 PM |
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Thank you. |
barbaraann |
Feb-27-06 02:09 AM |
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We'll see. |
cali |
Feb-26-06 12:06 PM |
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keep your fingers crossed |
bpilgrim |
Feb-26-06 12:08 PM |
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It doesn't matter if the Dems blow it because the Thugs own |
sfexpat2000 |
Feb-26-06 12:30 PM |
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I totally agree and can't think of what to do about it until more people |
Talismom |
Feb-26-06 04:45 PM |
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The Thugs are in a rush to put in machines because they know |
sfexpat2000 |
Feb-26-06 05:19 PM |
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Yep.. |
femrap |
Feb-26-06 08:19 PM |
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we have a smart woman running |
xxqqqzme |
Feb-26-06 08:56 PM |
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Time for good news for and from OHIO! |
sfexpat2000 |
Feb-27-06 12:56 PM |
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I agree fully. |
mzmolly |
Feb-26-06 01:57 PM |
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I believe that you are 100 percent correct. However, I can't |
ladjf |
Feb-26-06 12:08 PM |
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Election fraud doesn't have to be proven. Transparency does. |
sfexpat2000 |
Feb-26-06 12:33 PM |
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Well put. nt |
SmokingJacket |
Feb-26-06 04:06 PM |
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I agree |
RagingInMiami |
Feb-26-06 12:10 PM |
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AND isn't fed govt threatening big $$ penalties if states don't have |
bobbieinok |
Feb-27-06 01:33 AM |
#108 |
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you must not have been on DU |
shanti |
Feb-26-06 12:10 PM |
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it's bev harris, and |
mopinko |
Feb-26-06 12:15 PM |
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my bad |
shanti |
Feb-26-06 01:37 PM |
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Sign up to work the polls |
Virginian |
Feb-26-06 11:26 PM |
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K&R |
phusion |
Feb-26-06 12:12 PM |
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Voter Verified Paper Ballots. Voter Verified Paper Ballots |
goodboy |
Feb-26-06 12:13 PM |
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Seems like a simple request, doesn't it? |
phusion |
Feb-26-06 12:20 PM |
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that's why I ALWAYS vote with an absentee ballot. then you know for sure |
goodboy |
Feb-26-06 01:53 PM |
#44 |
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I said the same thing to someone recently and he asked if I believed that |
Talismom |
Feb-26-06 04:48 PM |
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it'd be easy to tell who mishandled the ballots, rather than the votes |
goodboy |
Feb-26-06 07:16 PM |
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FALSE, it depends on how absentee ballots are counted |
magellan |
Feb-26-06 07:58 PM |
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and if they are counted by hand....? I spent hours and hours with Andy |
goodboy |
Feb-27-06 12:34 AM |
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Ours were not counted by hand. (nt) |
magellan |
Feb-27-06 01:23 AM |
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there were BIG problems with absentee ballots in 2004 |
bobbieinok |
Feb-27-06 01:37 AM |
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Yes. In Broward County, FL, 58 thousand absentee ballots went "missing". |
nicknameless |
Feb-27-06 02:51 AM |
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VOTER VERIFIED PAPER BALLOTS. Simple. |
troubleinwinter |
Feb-26-06 12:37 PM |
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not so simple |
xxqqqzme |
Feb-26-06 09:02 PM |
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Must have hand counting or open source software; VVPB doesn't mean anythin |
KnowerOfLogic |
Feb-26-06 01:34 PM |
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criticism of the Dems, they are not taking care of their business. |
IsItJustMe |
Feb-26-06 12:17 PM |
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Sure |
cali |
Feb-26-06 12:24 PM |
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The process did not end with the SC. |
IsItJustMe |
Feb-26-06 12:37 PM |
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Puleeze. |
mzmolly |
Feb-26-06 12:43 PM |
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Kerry did NOT lose by over a million votes |
debbierlus |
Feb-26-06 12:59 PM |
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Perhaps. |
mzmolly |
Feb-26-06 01:16 PM |
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"victim"? He still HAS his "day job", and most of the money he spent |
SoCalDem |
Feb-26-06 05:03 PM |
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Kerry wasn't playing nice, he believed he lost the election by over a |
mzmolly |
Feb-26-06 05:08 PM |
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over 3 million, actually, although |
OnTheOtherHand |
Feb-26-06 07:23 PM |
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Thanks for the correction. |
mzmolly |
Feb-27-06 11:40 AM |
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FWIW, perhaps 1.5 million is just 3 million divided by 2 |
OnTheOtherHand |
Feb-27-06 12:01 PM |
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Perhaps I just stopped paying attention at 1.5 million |
mzmolly |
Feb-27-06 12:20 PM |
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This may help...or not. |
Chi |
Feb-27-06 12:34 PM |
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winning, fraud, etc. |
OnTheOtherHand |
Feb-27-06 03:13 PM |
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Those who propagate the 'nothing to see' attitude. |
Chi |
Feb-27-06 04:25 PM |
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well... |
OnTheOtherHand |
Feb-27-06 04:45 PM |
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Now you're talking 8) |
Chi |
Feb-27-06 05:17 PM |
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oh, and oops, I misquoted myself |
OnTheOtherHand |
Feb-27-06 08:43 PM |
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Out of curiosity |
Chi |
Feb-28-06 12:12 AM |
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it isn't really a matter of "likely" and "unlikely" |
OnTheOtherHand |
Feb-28-06 04:14 AM |
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WE are the only losers. |
_dynamicdems |
Feb-26-06 08:47 PM |
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I agree! I went all the way to Cleveland to work on getting the vote |
Talismom |
Feb-26-06 04:57 PM |
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of course |
zonmoy |
Feb-27-06 06:49 AM |
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Not a single Dem. senator would sign on to contest the 2000 election |
baby_bear |
Feb-26-06 12:53 PM |
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LOL. |
mzmolly |
Feb-26-06 01:18 PM |
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That didn't excuse the apathy of 2000 |
baby_bear |
Feb-26-06 10:11 PM |
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2000 was decided by 500 votes and went all the way to the supreme court. |
mzmolly |
Feb-27-06 11:14 AM |
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i hear you. you are 100% correct. |
mopinko |
Feb-26-06 12:18 PM |
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Solar Bus has a free Interactive CD |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-26-06 12:21 PM |
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Could someone put up a torrent of that CD for download? |
Jemmons |
Feb-26-06 12:39 PM |
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Where to go for accurate information? |
AndyA |
Feb-26-06 12:23 PM |
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DUers fished in my Sec of State's website and were able |
sfexpat2000 |
Feb-26-06 12:26 PM |
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Ok, I'm repeating myself, |
nofoil |
Feb-26-06 04:52 PM |
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Thank you! |
EstimatedProphet |
Feb-26-06 12:25 PM |
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in OH they BLATANTLY did NOT follow the law in precincts to be recounted |
bobbieinok |
Feb-27-06 01:44 AM |
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That's right |
EstimatedProphet |
Feb-28-06 10:30 AM |
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I agree 100% - that's my greatest fear and biggest worry. |
Vektor |
Feb-26-06 12:36 PM |
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Yes, this has been in the works a VERY long time - |
Starfury |
Feb-26-06 04:50 PM |
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I am hopeful because we are gradually getting states to require |
mzmolly |
Feb-26-06 12:38 PM |
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MzMolly - Tried your link to "Get Busy" but it "Could Not Be Displayed" |
Trevelyan |
Feb-26-06 12:44 PM |
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Thanks! I fixed the error. |
mzmolly |
Feb-26-06 01:06 PM |
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That top map's got "fraud" written all over it, mzmolly! |
Vektor |
Feb-26-06 12:46 PM |
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Hopefully we will see that paper makes a difference in their ability |
mzmolly |
Feb-26-06 01:07 PM |
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I hope so too! |
Vektor |
Feb-26-06 01:26 PM |
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That map is misleading and discouraging |
annabanana |
Feb-26-06 03:47 PM |
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Looks more accurate... |
Vektor |
Feb-26-06 04:00 PM |
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I've thought that odd too. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Feb-26-06 06:48 PM |
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That's good progress. |
rockymountaindem |
Feb-26-06 03:51 PM |
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Good golly mzmolly, what a great addition to this thread! Thank you! n/t |
Talismom |
Feb-26-06 05:13 PM |
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Your welcome. |
mzmolly |
Feb-26-06 05:38 PM |
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BINGO! K&R! |
titoresque |
Feb-26-06 12:44 PM |
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has anybody been keeping up... |
mikeybabe125 |
Feb-26-06 12:45 PM |
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Electronic voting is meaningless without their media. |
Gregorian |
Feb-26-06 01:04 PM |
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The 2002 Senate races were also fixed - Georgia, Minnesotta, maybe |
robbedvoter |
Feb-26-06 01:20 PM |
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We have another duty as well: monitoring and documentation. |
sofa king |
Feb-26-06 01:33 PM |
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Wow! I really like the spirit and attitude of your suggestions. Very |
Talismom |
Feb-26-06 05:18 PM |
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I guess there's no point of even voting then. |
Balbus |
Feb-26-06 02:09 PM |
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The corporate media had not done even one story |
blue cat |
Feb-26-06 03:49 PM |
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Yeah and George Bush REALLY |
titoresque |
Feb-26-06 03:49 PM |
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I know, and I am so ANGRY and FRUSTRATED right now! |
Rocknrule |
Feb-26-06 03:53 PM |
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it's gonna take a REVOLUTION to make any real change..... |
jus_the_facts |
Feb-26-06 04:01 PM |
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All I can do is agree. Sadly. n/t |
poverlay |
Feb-26-06 04:06 PM |
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Not only do they have control of the voting machines.... |
tex-wyo-dem |
Feb-26-06 04:31 PM |
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++++ Reject suspect results & go after officials PERSONALLY +++++ |
pat_k |
Feb-26-06 04:36 PM |
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No Surrender! No retreat! |
Mythsaje |
Feb-26-06 04:46 PM |
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Look at it this way, if they turn over power to the Dems :SUBPOENAs |
mod mom |
Feb-26-06 05:03 PM |
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People are starting to "get it"... |
fooj |
Feb-26-06 07:33 PM |
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If both elections were rigged, then why aren't people in jail by now? |
mtnsnake |
Feb-26-06 07:46 PM |
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Feb-26-06 08:33 PM |
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How did a pathetic campaign get more votes than the great candidate |
Mass |
Feb-26-06 08:54 PM |
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Sorry if my opinion that the campaign was pathetically run bothers |
mtnsnake |
Feb-26-06 09:06 PM |
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Then why didn't you just say that? |
Vektor |
Feb-26-06 09:20 PM |
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Feb-26-06 09:38 PM |
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"As always"??? |
Vektor |
Feb-26-06 09:43 PM |
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That would be correct |
mtnsnake |
Feb-26-06 09:56 PM |
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Feb-26-06 10:01 PM |
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Evidence is EVERYWHERE - they ARE incriminated |
debbierlus |
Feb-26-06 08:56 PM |
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I've tried. |
Vektor |
Feb-26-06 08:59 PM |
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Feb-26-06 09:14 PM |
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Because it was the PERFECT CRIME!!!! |
Balbus |
Feb-26-06 09:02 PM |
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Your point is...? |
Leopolds Ghost |
Feb-26-06 09:13 PM |
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That election fraud is bullshit. |
Balbus |
Feb-26-06 09:17 PM |
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A pathetic campaign? How so? |
TayTay |
Feb-26-06 09:12 PM |
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Feb-26-06 09:22 PM |
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It was a winning campaign. Kerry won, get used to it;) |
autorank |
Feb-27-06 03:24 AM |
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Your post is very interesting in that it probably represents the majority |
abester |
Feb-27-06 03:43 AM |
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VA, CA and NJ 05. It may be an uphill battle, but we can win elections.nt |
skipos |
Feb-26-06 08:49 PM |
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And--They Control the MONEY! |
earthside |
Feb-26-06 08:55 PM |
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Also, computer gerrymandering keeps Congress in Repug |
JCMach1 |
Feb-26-06 09:35 PM |
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If this country is going to survive the nightmare |
mnhtnbb |
Feb-26-06 09:41 PM |
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DINOs *are* Republicans and will do nothing |
upi402 |
Feb-26-06 10:15 PM |
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Starting a new thread because it is THE most important issue we face. nt |
linazelle |
Feb-26-06 10:00 PM |
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I've been saying this since 2002! |
father_of_hope |
Feb-27-06 02:56 AM |
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But have you heard even ONE national Democrat take this on... |
autorank |
Feb-27-06 03:21 AM |
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Do Hilary Clinton and John Kerry count? |
mzmolly |
Feb-27-06 11:25 AM |
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Paper ballots are a small part of the problem... |
autorank |
Feb-27-06 08:29 PM |
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We have optiscan machines where I live and the paper ballots |
mzmolly |
Feb-27-06 08:55 PM |
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Until we get this message across and take real action |
donheld |
Feb-27-06 03:28 AM |
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Call it by number. |
trogdor |
Feb-27-06 10:18 AM |
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No. We need to get organized. Educate. And, then develop solutions. |
debbierlus |
Feb-27-06 10:21 AM |
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We are organized. |
mzmolly |
Feb-27-06 11:48 AM |
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Hopefully 2006 is the year we catch them red-handed. |
iconoclastNYC |
Feb-27-06 10:29 AM |
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Once again, it's NOT the machines, it's the GERRYMANDERING |
Turn CO Blue |
Feb-27-06 11:15 AM |
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It's the rigging of the system; machines, districts, election laws, |
rman |
Feb-27-06 11:51 AM |
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Paper ballots and Hand counts NOW!!! Democracy NOW!!! |
In Truth We Trust |
Feb-27-06 11:24 AM |
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Almost as importantly, they control the stories |
wiggs |
Feb-27-06 11:58 AM |
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Well, I don't know about all THAT |
skibunny4dean |
Feb-27-06 12:52 PM |
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Gore won - If only for that, this does not stand. |
Mass |
Feb-27-06 03:00 PM |
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Kerry won, too. |
Vektor |
Feb-27-06 03:38 PM |
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Kerry was a very good candidate, Dean left a lot to be desired. |
wisteria |
Feb-27-06 08:39 PM |
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Too true. People are so blind to this fact. The Crooks and thieves |
go west young man |
Feb-28-06 11:26 AM |
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