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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:02 PM
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35. I don't know
Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Andrew Jackson all came from the south. They seemed to have a clue about democratic principles and progress. The south would have found its new Jeffersons and Washington's if it was a nation. There were plenty of educated and experienced men to choose from.

The Confederacy was set up on democratic principles and even had congressional votes in the middle of the war. Their leaders were committed to democratic principlesas much as their forefathers were.

I guess is they won their freedom they could have become the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia, but I really don't see any reason to think that they would have?

The average white male farmer back then had a pretty clear expectation of democracy.

Texas would be a good example. Texas became an independant country, then a state in the US, then a Confederate state all within a 25 year period, and each time a new government was formed it was a democratic one, and when they decided to join the USA it was done by a popular vote, and when they decided to leave the USA and join the CSA it was done by popular vote too. There was an expectation of democracy that was pretty firmly established back then, and I don't see why that would change.
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  -The Confederate States of America (film) Kerrytravelers  Feb-26-06 12:16 AM   #0 
  - Did it depict that white poor and "middle" class would continue  TaleWgnDg   Feb-26-06 12:25 AM   #1 
  - It focused mostly on the slavery of all peoples "non-white" and  Kerrytravelers   Feb-26-06 12:29 AM   #2 
  - Bull. Prior to the Civil War there were white class  TaleWgnDg   Feb-26-06 12:34 AM   #3 
  - The film was staying focued in one area. They never deny anything  Kerrytravelers   Feb-26-06 12:40 AM   #4 
     - shall do, and ty.  TaleWgnDg   Feb-26-06 12:58 AM   #7 
  - When does the movie have slavery ending?  Yupster   Feb-26-06 01:01 AM   #10 
     - I'm Guessing Never  AndyTiedye   Feb-26-06 01:54 AM   #15 
     - Never is correct. They even have a Home Shopping Channel  Kerrytravelers   Feb-26-06 01:57 AM   #17 
     - OK, bad joke, but is this in the movie as well?  Solon   Feb-26-06 11:23 AM   #28 
     - Actually, there are two books that cover those subjects...  Solon   Feb-26-06 11:16 AM   #26 
        - Yea, That Turtledove series is great.  maine_raptor   Feb-26-06 11:27 AM   #30 
           - Big Turtledove fan here too Maine_Raptor, but  Yupster   Feb-26-06 12:45 PM   #31 
  - hey. That's still happening.  Iris   Feb-26-06 04:01 PM   #41 
  - Sieg heil mein furher, Jefferson Davis  Ignacio Upton   Feb-26-06 12:48 AM   #5 
  - Exactly. The CSA actually supported hitler by asking advice and  Kerrytravelers   Feb-26-06 12:49 AM   #6 
     - That's where these What ifs get problematical, because  Yupster   Feb-26-06 01:03 AM   #11 
        - The film was keeping America close to what viewers can identify with.  Kerrytravelers   Feb-26-06 01:32 AM   #13 
           - One interesting What if Book  Yupster   Feb-26-06 01:45 AM   #14 
              - Thanks!  Kerrytravelers   Feb-26-06 01:55 AM   #16 
                 - I would also recommend How Few Remain...  Solon   Feb-26-06 11:19 AM   #27 
                    - Funny Solon, but  Yupster   Feb-26-06 12:48 PM   #32 
                       - I would agree with you...  Solon   Feb-26-06 03:14 PM   #38 
  - So in this film, the Confederacy  Yupster   Feb-26-06 12:58 AM   #8 
  - Sure, the conquering part is a stretch, but it still shows how a percentage  Kerrytravelers   Feb-26-06 01:01 AM   #9 
  - The DisneyWorld ride  Yupster   Feb-26-06 01:15 AM   #12 
     - Disney is hoping no one will notice.  Kerrytravelers   Feb-26-06 01:58 AM   #18 
     - Where in the Uncle Remus stories do young women expose their breast?  Jara sang   Feb-26-06 01:01 PM   #34 
  - I think that if the South had really won  darboy   Feb-26-06 02:06 AM   #19 
     - I agree with your estimation.  Kerrytravelers   Feb-26-06 02:16 AM   #20 
     - I see we are bicostal tonight  darboy   Feb-26-06 02:27 AM   #21 
        - West Coast here! Mr kt and I don't rule out living on the East Coast!  Kerrytravelers   Feb-26-06 02:30 AM   #22 
     - I don't think the world would be that different  Yupster   Feb-26-06 03:58 AM   #23 
        - maybe  darboy   Feb-26-06 10:35 AM   #25 
           - The only thing is that economics and trade would set in...  Solon   Feb-26-06 11:27 AM   #29 
           - I don't know  Yupster   Feb-26-06 01:02 PM   #35 
  - it's nice that this was made...  DerBeppo   Feb-26-06 04:34 AM   #24 
  - Yes Derbeppo  Yupster   Feb-26-06 01:29 PM   #36 
     - That sounds interesting, Have you ever read Stars and Stripes Forever?  Solon   Feb-26-06 03:27 PM   #39 
        - Yes I did read that one  Yupster   Feb-26-06 03:34 PM   #40 
           - It had the Merrimack and the Monitor on the coverart...  Solon   Feb-26-06 04:16 PM   #42 
  - I Think This Ought To Be Required Viewing.......  Paladin   Feb-26-06 12:55 PM   #33 
     - I find almost all what if histories fun, but  Yupster   Feb-26-06 01:35 PM   #37 

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