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211. PROMIS- Oliver North used it to track dissidents/domestic emer prog?
Likely it was one of the first, and I remember reading about it in Crossing the Rubicon.



...But the CIA was not the only place where illegal versions of PROMIS cropped up. Canadian documents (held by the House Judiciary Committee and obtained by WIRED) place PROMIS in the hands of various Canadian government agencies. These documents include two letters to Inslaw from Canadian agencies requesting detailed user manuals -- even though Inslaw has never sold PROMIS to Canada. Canadian officials now claim the letters were in error.

~snip~

"Dr. Brian stated during his presentation that all U.S. Intelligence Agencies, including the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Central Intelligence Agency, and the National Security Agency and the U.S. Department of Justice were then using the PROMIS computer software," Ben Menashe continued. While the credibility of his statements has been questioned, the Israeli government has admitted that Ben Menashe had access to extremely sensitive information during his tenure at the Mossad.

Asked why Israeli intelligence would have been so interested in Inslaw and PROMIS, Ben Menashe said, "PROMIS was a very big thing for us guys, a very, very big thing ... it was probably the most important issue of the '80s because it just changed the whole intelligence outlook. The whole form of intelligence collection changed. This whole thing changed it." PROMIS, Ben Menashe said, was perfect for tracking Palestinians and other political dissidents.

Apparently, Israel was not the only country interested in using PROMIS for internal security purposes. Lt. Col. Oliver North also may have been using the program. According to several intelligence community sources, PROMIS was in use at a 6,100-square-foot command center built on the sixth floor of the Justice Department. According to both a contractor who helped design the center and information disclosed during the Iran-Contra hearings, Oliver North had a similar, but smaller, White House operations room that was connected by computer link to the DOJ's command center.

Using the computers in his command center, North tracked dissidents and potential troublemakers within the United States as part of a domestic emergency preparedness program, commissioned under Reagan's Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), according to sources and published reports. Using PROMIS, sources point out, North could have drawn up lists of anyone ever arrested for a political protest, for example, or anyone who had ever refused to pay their taxes. Compared to PROMIS, Richard Nixon's enemies list or Sen. Joe McCarthy's blacklist look downright crude. This operation was so sensitive that when Rep. Jack Brooks asked North about it during the Iran-Contra hearings, the hearing was immediately suspended pending an executive (secret) conference. When the hearings were reconvened, the issue of North's FEMA dealings was dropped.


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  - Ok, we have an Axium co.  hootinholler   Feb-25-06 09:36 PM   #60 
  - No...  lala_rawraw   Feb-25-06 09:39 PM   #65 
     - Ok, then which Axium?  hootinholler   Feb-25-06 09:42 PM   #69 
     - Is it Acxiom in Little Rock?  kalibex   Feb-25-06 09:54 PM   #89 
        - Yes n/t  Sydnie   Feb-25-06 09:57 PM   #95 
        - they outsource IT too  Sydnie   Feb-25-06 10:01 PM   #102 
        - DU discussions primary 2004....Gen Clark on board of acxiom  bobbieinok   Feb-25-06 10:52 PM   #131 
        - So Acxiom creates the Do-Not-Fly lists? nt  Marie26   Feb-26-06 03:05 PM   #191 
        - Whaaaaa??? n/t  Digit   Feb-26-06 03:06 PM   #192 
        - Hmmm. So is Alltel also a part of this ? What connections are there...  EVDebs   Feb-26-06 03:25 PM   #198 
     - Here is Hoovers on these  TayTay   Feb-25-06 09:47 PM   #75 
     - Recent article which includes ChoicePoint, Axium, LexisNexis  Emit   Feb-25-06 09:49 PM   #81 
  - "Can download an entire nation's communications"...Risen.  bleever   Feb-25-06 09:37 PM   # 
  - I think this is what this German blogger was referring to  Emit   Feb-25-06 09:44 PM   #71 
  - Uh oh. I clicked on that international link.  bleever   Feb-25-06 09:47 PM   #76 
     - Hear that Agent Mike?  Patsy Stone   Feb-25-06 10:13 PM   #110 
  - Just WOW, unbelievable!  DemReadingDU   Feb-26-06 08:21 AM   #151 
     - Jackson Stephen's Systematics and Alltel are in on a lot of this  EVDebs   Feb-26-06 04:12 PM   #203 
  - Overseas they can listen to everything and archive it  Sydnie   Feb-25-06 09:37 PM   #61 
  - if they can do it overseas...  Viva_La_Revolution   Feb-25-06 09:38 PM   #64 
  - ChoicePoint was involved  Wheezy   Feb-25-06 09:37 PM   #62 
  - Do we know who that info was lost to?  Marie26   Feb-26-06 03:10 PM   #194 
     - Here's just a bit of info regarding one of the people involved in scam  Emit   Feb-26-06 03:16 PM   #196 
        - That's it?  Marie26   Feb-26-06 03:36 PM   #199 
           - THAT's exactly what I was thinking when I posted -- "That's IT"  Emit   Feb-26-06 03:39 PM   #200 
              - Incredibly odd - but  Marie26   Feb-26-06 03:49 PM   #201 
                 - There was also a Choicepoint exec killed in a 2001 planecrash, iirc.  blm   Feb-27-06 12:56 PM   #230 
  - Oh boy, I better not comment if I am to write on this...  lala_rawraw   Feb-25-06 09:38 PM   #63 
  - Ma'am, please step away from the keyboard.  bleever   Feb-25-06 09:43 PM   #70 
  - Russert is excited by this story, and that itself says a lot.  bleever   Feb-25-06 09:42 PM   #68 
  - Will he break his silence on MtP or another forum...  The Witch   Feb-25-06 10:27 PM   #117 
  - My hubby and I watched this last evening.  fooj   Feb-26-06 12:33 PM   #165 
  - Verifiable Intelligence in Long Island n/t  Sydnie   Feb-25-06 09:47 PM   #72 
  - Sys-x Corporation  livvy   Feb-25-06 09:47 PM   #73 
  - Verant (sp?)  Viva_La_Revolution   Feb-25-06 09:47 PM   #74 
  - voice recognition - sorts on key words to fit the response.  deminks   Feb-25-06 09:49 PM   #79 
  - Verint  globalvillage   Feb-25-06 09:49 PM   #80 
     - good. cause Verant is the company that created EverQuest  Viva_La_Revolution   Feb-25-06 09:55 PM   #91 
     - Hoovers snapshot on Verint  TayTay   Feb-25-06 09:56 PM   #94 
     - Interesting  Twist_U_Up   Feb-25-06 10:02 PM   #103 
        - "communications interception"  Marie26   Feb-26-06 03:15 PM   #195 
  - all new software for telecommunications have built in back doors  Sydnie   Feb-25-06 09:48 PM   #77 
  - Just like our voting machines  MelissaB   Feb-25-06 09:49 PM   #82 
  - Ding ding ding!!!  Sydnie   Feb-25-06 09:52 PM   #83 
  - No wonder Bushco calls this a vital tool. nt.  deminks   Feb-25-06 09:54 PM   #88 
  - Found this: don't know if it helps: SAIC and ES&S:  coffeenap   Feb-25-06 09:53 PM   #86 
     - and one from the other thread:  MelissaB   Feb-25-06 10:00 PM   #100 
     - SAIC  starroute   Feb-25-06 10:32 PM   #122 
        - Holy shit! These are former special ops guys?  Sydnie   Feb-25-06 10:41 PM   #127 
           - "Former" ? Once in, they don't leave.  EVDebs   Feb-27-06 06:48 PM   #235 
     - SAIC also has major ties to the CIA -- lots of staff is former CIA  RazzleDazzle   Feb-26-06 09:38 AM   #158 
     - Had a major ID theft lately, so somebody knows about these guys  EVDebs   Feb-27-06 06:53 PM   #236 
     - Really? Enter Dianne Feinstein.  fooj   Feb-26-06 02:04 PM   #184 
  - Is this a quote? Was this said by Risen?  The Witch   Feb-25-06 10:29 PM   #118 
  - Yes, Risen said that on the show n/t  Sydnie   Feb-25-06 10:31 PM   #119 
     - aw FUCK. n/t  The Witch   Feb-25-06 10:32 PM   #121 
  - This is why, IMO.  fooj   Feb-26-06 01:44 PM   #181 
  - uh oh!  Supersedeas   Feb-27-06 05:14 PM   #233 
  - ChoicePoint at a glance  TayTay   Feb-25-06 09:53 PM   #84 
  - RFID chips  Sydnie   Feb-25-06 09:53 PM   #85 
  - And that's another reason I don't trust vaccinations now  RazzleDazzle   Feb-26-06 09:42 AM   #160 
  - OH HELL!!!  im10ashus   Feb-25-06 09:53 PM   #87 
  - Outsourcing ports = outsourcing NSA surveillance capabilities!  bleever   Feb-25-06 09:55 PM   #90 
  - You said what I was trying to say down thead - but so much better  Sydnie   Feb-25-06 09:58 PM   #98 
  - Bringing up security issues with foreign intelligence gaining access.  deminks   Feb-25-06 09:56 PM   #92 
  - He just scared me with the intelligence community and flight  Sydnie   Feb-25-06 09:56 PM   #93 
  - Risen equates * admin with "men of zeal without understanding"  bleever   Feb-25-06 09:57 PM   #96 
  - Done with the best intentions, my ass! That goes hand in hand with  OmmmSweetOmmm   Feb-25-06 09:58 PM   #97 
  - I think it's his way of getting the word out.  fooj   Feb-26-06 12:50 PM   #170 
  - VIDEO - Widespread Surveillance Testimony  dzika   Feb-25-06 09:59 PM   #99 
  - Look who's here!  Patsy Stone   Feb-25-06 10:09 PM   #108 
  - Excellent.  bleever   Feb-25-06 10:10 PM   #109 
  - so many connections  jarnocan   Feb-25-06 10:23 PM   #114 
  - I saw that the other day! This is a must look see.  Emit   Feb-25-06 10:38 PM   #126 
  - Thank you  proud patriot   Feb-26-06 01:53 PM   #182 
  - Here's O'Harrow's WaPo article about Global Information Group  Patsy Stone   Feb-25-06 10:08 PM   #107 
  - so, is TIA alive and well?  rodeodance   Feb-25-06 10:14 PM   #111 
  - And living comfortably  Patsy Stone   Feb-25-06 10:25 PM   #115 
  - So...WaPo and NYT staffers save the world? Or at least stand up for Truth  bleever   Feb-25-06 10:35 PM   #125 
  - It's always the quiet ones  Patsy Stone   Feb-25-06 10:47 PM   #128 
  - "Amass large databases of international records"  Marie26   Feb-26-06 04:12 PM   #204 
     - I think everything feeds through these people  Patsy Stone   Feb-26-06 05:21 PM   #213 
        - Yes, I agree  Marie26   Feb-26-06 05:36 PM   #214 
  - One DU link on outsourcing of T.I.A. to enter that angle of things:  bleever   Feb-25-06 10:19 PM   #112 
  - K&R, I don't have CNBC but just from the OP & threads  The Witch   Feb-25-06 10:22 PM   #113 
  - "1company... is involved in another business all together"  The Witch   Feb-25-06 10:25 PM   #116 
  - Very good question n/t  Sydnie   Feb-25-06 10:52 PM   #132 
  - AllTel?  ekelly   Feb-27-06 01:50 AM   #225 
  - Maybe a dupe but wasn't Wesley Clarke on Axciom's board? n/t  peace_on_earth   Feb-25-06 10:32 PM   #120 
  - Looks like it  MelissaB   Feb-25-06 10:34 PM   #123 
     - I loved Clarke until I read he was on the board of Acxiom  peace_on_earth   Feb-25-06 10:48 PM   #129 
        - Yup. It's scared me, too.  barbaraann   Feb-25-06 11:00 PM   #134 
        - Welcome to DU! Love your screen name.  fooj   Feb-26-06 12:54 PM   #173 
  - ChoicePoint Ashcroft Connection  Emit   Feb-25-06 10:35 PM   #124 
  - so, he wasn't comfortable with approving things when he was  Sydnie   Feb-25-06 10:50 PM   #130 
  - A crazy thought comes to mind...  AntiFascist   Feb-25-06 10:52 PM   #133 
  - That is not a crazy thought  leftchick   Feb-26-06 08:13 AM   #150 
  - An army of drafted illegal aliens?  Marie26   Feb-26-06 04:24 PM   #205 
     - There was a post somewhere...  AntiFascist   Feb-26-06 09:51 PM   #221 
  - A thread a year ago covered a little of this stuff  starroute   Feb-25-06 11:32 PM   #135 
  - Video Clips from Russert NSA Show  dzika   Feb-25-06 11:56 PM   #137 
  - Thanks, dzika!  MelissaB   Feb-26-06 08:58 AM   #154 
  - Awesome!  im10ashus   Feb-26-06 10:09 AM   #162 
  - Thank you! n/t  DemReadingDU   Feb-26-06 10:13 AM   #163 
  - Thanks for that one too  proud patriot   Feb-26-06 02:18 PM   #185 
  - Thank you!  Marie26   Feb-26-06 04:26 PM   #206 
  - Check this out! - Choicepoint and Diebold  pirhana   Feb-26-06 01:21 AM   #141 
  - Armitage - ChoicePoint/Sell of Seisint to LexisNexis/Matrix - Cheney link  Emit   Feb-26-06 01:51 AM   #142 
  - LexisNexis had breach too, like Choicept last year: commonality - Asher  Emit   Feb-26-06 02:24 AM   #143 
  - NYT article from 2/25/06 on data miniing and TIA- LINK & EXCERPT:  Nothing Without Hope   Feb-26-06 05:08 AM   #145 
  - Related 2/23 post on how the DOD secretly continued the cancelled  Nothing Without Hope   Feb-26-06 05:14 AM   #146 
  - surveillance, software and backdoors: PTECH software  rman   Feb-26-06 05:20 AM   #147 
  - Ptech link- was used by FAA on 911/also Rumsfield-internet control?  jarnocan   Feb-26-06 08:03 AM   #149 
  - PTECH RAID/INVESTIGATION Compiled by Indira Singh  seemslikeadream   Feb-26-06 08:50 AM   #153 
  - PROMIS- Oliver North used it to track dissidents/domestic emer prog?  Emit   Feb-26-06 05:18 PM   #211 
  - kick for ptech reference. nt  wiggs   Feb-27-06 12:42 PM   #228 
  - Sounds like THIS is what Russell Tice referred to earlier this month:  Nothing Without Hope   Feb-26-06 05:55 AM   #148 
  - Transcript for this show?  DemReadingDU   Feb-26-06 08:36 AM   #152 
  - I have searched hither and yawn.  im10ashus   Feb-26-06 09:41 AM   #159 
  - Dzika posted some clips in post #137.  MelissaB   Feb-26-06 10:06 AM   #161 
  - A list of names...  fooj   Feb-26-06 01:00 PM   #176 
  - ACLU on MATRIX.........  Joanne98   Feb-26-06 01:02 PM   #177 
  - Gonzales, in his cong. testimony, kept refering to  troubleinwinter   Feb-26-06 01:42 PM   #180 
  - KIck (nt)  stickdog   Feb-26-06 04:11 PM   #202 
  - CHOICEPOINT BOUGHT DBT ONLINE  flyarm   Feb-26-06 04:43 PM   #207 
  - Hiya Flyarm!  fooj   Feb-26-06 06:01 PM   #216 
  - hey fooj correct on post 181!! and it was started when choicepoint  flyarm   Feb-26-06 07:44 PM   #218 
     - PNAC blueprint! IN PLAIN SIGHT!  fooj   Feb-26-06 08:54 PM   #219 
  - This sure can USE some CAPS hell yeah  BelgianMadCow   Feb-27-06 07:31 PM   #237 
  - Kick  fooj   Feb-27-06 12:50 PM   #229 
  - Accenture and Axciom  cosmicdot   Feb-27-06 11:25 PM   #238 
     - Accenture=Andersen Consulting=Arthur Andersen that audited Enron bks  Emit   Feb-28-06 12:19 AM   #240 
 

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