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142.  Armitage - ChoicePoint/Sell of Seisint to LexisNexis/Matrix - Cheney link
Edited on Sun Feb-26-06 02:49 AM by Emit
Don't know how credible this is -- will try to verify, but is interesting with some history of ChoicePoint:

ChoicePoint is much more than a corporate safe-house or pack-station for
Dick Armitage. And it isn't historically significant because he worked there
prior to taking the State Department appointment as Powell's deputy. Just
the opposite - Armitage's place in 911 history is assured because he was a
director of ChoicePoint. ChoicePoint is the explanation of everything and
nothing, the means justifying the means, founded on the sort of motives that
turn some men, when they dwell on it, into hermits or existentialists.
ChoicePoint and 911 were inseperable, "joined at the hip." It is no
exagerration to say that ChoicePoint has determined the country's
leadership, sacrificed thousands of innocent lives, moved the country into a
police state and paved the road to war.



Rozar started-up CDB Infotek "as an insurance investigations business. He
foresaw a growing marketplace for computerized databases that would automate
the process for investigators. Equifax's Insurance Services Group bought a
majority stake in the business in 1996, with Rozar staying on as president
and chief executive. "The company was later spun off as part of ChoicePoint
Inc., a publicly traded company. He resigned when he sold his remaining
interest this year."1

It was reported that Rozar "engineered the sale of 70% of the business two
years ago for more than $32 million, and sold his remaining interest this
year for an undisclosed amount." (Unfortunately, he only lived long enough
to spend a little of it - a $100,000 contribution to the Republican Party.)

Two years later, ChoicePoint purchased Database Technologies (DBT). This
company, based in Boca Raton, was founded by Hank Asher. The FBI had accused
Asher of hob-nobbing with drug peddlers from the Bahamas. The Bureau went so
far as to cancel its CBT data management contract for this very reason... That
was a hint that something might not be quite right at ChoicePoint. It
wasn't CDBInfotek anymore - ChoicePoint was an Orwellian octopoid in the


2nd article same link:

July 16, 2004 Friday Broward Metro Edition

BYLINE: Ian Katz Business Writer

As founder and a major shareholder of Seisint Inc., a Boca Raton company that makes a counter-terrorism computer program, Asher will make about $250 million from the sale of Seisint to LexisNexis, a subsidiary of information services giant Reed Elsevier Group. Started in 1998, Seisint now has more than 300 employees, most of them in the Boca Raton office. The company also has offices in London and in Reston, Va.

The $775 million deal, announced Wednesday, culminates a remarkable comeback for Asher, a onetime cocaine smuggler who now dedicates much of his time and money to cancer research.


A Seisint database tool called Matrix has grabbed the attention of the Bush administration. Matrix, which Asher showed off to Vice President Dick Cheney and the heads of the FBI and Homeland Security during a visit to the White House last year, can quickly analyze data on millions of people. ... "The tools and technologies that were developed by Seisint because of 9-11 should prove to be invaluable to Lexis and to national security," Asher said.


Another Seisint product, Accurint, gives online access of public records to help government agencies and businesses with due diligence, identity and pre-employment screening.


"I believe it was a fair price to us, but an extraordinary deal for Lexis," Asher said. "When they open Seisint's products up to their distribution, I believe they will immediately more than double the current sales of Seisint and more than triple the profits. This makes Seisint the deal of the century for Lexis."

O'Harrow's account of that Asher meeting with Cheney -- Asher was accompanied by JEB BUSH!

By Robert O'Harrow Jr.
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, May 21, 2004; Page A12

One day in January 2003, an entrepreneur from Florida named Hank Asher walked into the Roosevelt Room of the White House to demonstrate a counterterrorism tool he invented after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Soon to be called Matrix, it was a computer program capable of examining records of billions of people in seconds.

Accompanied by Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and the state's top police official, Asher showed his creation to Vice President Cheney, FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III and Tom Ridge, who was about to be sworn in as secretary of the new Department of Homeland Security, according to people at the meeting.

The demonstration startled everyone in the room who had not seen it before. Almost as quickly as questions could be asked, the system generated long reports on a projection screen: names, addresses, driver license photos, links to associates, even ethnicity. At one point, an Asher associate recalled, Ridge turned toward Cheney and nudged him with an elbow, apparently to underscore his amazement at the power of what they were seeing. A few months later, Ridge approved an $8 million "cooperative agreement" from his department to help states link to the computer system.

Edited to add another layer in the history of ChoicePoint:

Ex-NYSE Official Kenneth Langone Sued
Friday December 3, 3:37 am ET
By Coralie Carlson, Associated Press Writer
Former NYSE Official Kenneth Langone Sued for $1.8 Billion

MIAMI (AP) -- Former New York Stock Exchange official Kenneth Langone and others are being sued for $1.8 billion by a businessman who claims the Home Depot co-founder bad-mouthed him and his database company to potential buyers when the company was for sale earlier this year.
Hank Asher, of Boca Raton, also claims that Langone, an investment banker tied to former NYSE chairman Dick Grasso's controversial $187.5 million pay package, tried to shut him out of the data management industry.


Seisint was sold in October for $775 million to Reed Elsevier PLC, which owns Lexis-Nexis. But that price was down from previous offers of about $1 billion, said James Carroll, Asher's attorney... Langone, a board member of potential Seisint bidder ChoicePoint, called other potential bidders and "maliciously defamed and disparaged Seisint and Asher," according to the lawsuit. Langone told the bidders that "the books were cooked" and that "Seisint was run by 'bad people,'" in hopes of driving down the price of the company, the lawsuit claims.


Langone chaired the NYSE's compensation committee from 1999 to 2003 when Grasso was awarded a $187.5 million pay package that was roundly criticized as excessive. New York's attorney general sued Langone and Grasso in May, claiming they misled the NYSE board of directors about Grasso's pay package and, in some cases, bullied board members into approving it.

Langone is on the boards of ChoicePoint, General Electric Co., Home Depot Inc., Yum! Brands Inc. and Unifi Inc.

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  - Rerun?  AnnieBW   Feb-25-06 09:33 PM   #48 
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  - ChoicePoint Contracted with CIA he just said  lala_rawraw   Feb-25-06 09:33 PM   #49 
  - ChoicePoint contracts with at least 35 government agencies  Emit   Feb-26-06 01:05 AM   #139 
  - Possible connection to TIA program?  Marie26   Feb-26-06 12:50 PM   #169 
     - And, profiling thru statistical "high terrorism factor"- Seisint's MATRIX  Emit   Feb-26-06 12:59 PM   #175 
     - ...and offshored to CAPPS II with Global Information Group in the  EVDebs   Feb-26-06 01:10 PM   #178 
        - Yes, I read your excellent summation above, and I read this  Emit   Feb-26-06 01:54 PM   #183 
        - Based on the articles posted here,  Marie26   Feb-26-06 04:46 PM   #208 
           - Vacuum sweeper invasion of privacy with profiling.  EVDebs   Feb-27-06 12:10 PM   #226 
              - It seems like there's an absolutely huge gap  Marie26   Feb-27-06 04:46 PM   #232 
  - Good archived articles on ChoicePoint here  Emit   Feb-26-06 01:13 AM   #140 
  - CIA has no business needing the info choicepoint has  proud patriot   Feb-26-06 03:07 PM   #193 
  - Lexis Nexis + ChoicePoint Google search...  Wheezy   Feb-25-06 09:33 PM   #51 
  - Genetics and the CEO of choicepoint said  lala_rawraw   Feb-25-06 09:34 PM   #52 
  - Sysic (sp) Now that is scary information.  livvy   Feb-25-06 09:34 PM   #53 
  - Read this, just got it  lala_rawraw   Feb-25-06 09:34 PM   #54 
  - These people are outlaws--they do whatever they want. Unreal.  linazelle   Feb-26-06 12:59 AM   #138 
  - Talking about ChoicePoint.  im10ashus   Feb-25-06 09:35 PM   #55 
  - NSA ability... wow  lala_rawraw   Feb-25-06 09:36 PM   #59 
     - Their reach is limitless.  im10ashus   Feb-25-06 09:42 PM   #67 
        - that is quite a site..I didn't realize the extent of information  DemInDistress   Feb-25-06 11:44 PM   #136 
  - Ok, we have an Axium co.  hootinholler   Feb-25-06 09:36 PM   #60 
  - No...  lala_rawraw   Feb-25-06 09:39 PM   #65 
     - Ok, then which Axium?  hootinholler   Feb-25-06 09:42 PM   #69 
     - Is it Acxiom in Little Rock?  kalibex   Feb-25-06 09:54 PM   #89 
        - Yes n/t  Sydnie   Feb-25-06 09:57 PM   #95 
        - they outsource IT too  Sydnie   Feb-25-06 10:01 PM   #102 
        - DU discussions primary 2004....Gen Clark on board of acxiom  bobbieinok   Feb-25-06 10:52 PM   #131 
        - So Acxiom creates the Do-Not-Fly lists? nt  Marie26   Feb-26-06 03:05 PM   #191 
        - Whaaaaa??? n/t  Digit   Feb-26-06 03:06 PM   #192 
        - Hmmm. So is Alltel also a part of this ? What connections are there...  EVDebs   Feb-26-06 03:25 PM   #198 
     - Here is Hoovers on these  TayTay   Feb-25-06 09:47 PM   #75 
     - Recent article which includes ChoicePoint, Axium, LexisNexis  Emit   Feb-25-06 09:49 PM   #81 
  - "Can download an entire nation's communications"...Risen.  bleever   Feb-25-06 09:37 PM   # 
  - I think this is what this German blogger was referring to  Emit   Feb-25-06 09:44 PM   #71 
  - Uh oh. I clicked on that international link.  bleever   Feb-25-06 09:47 PM   #76 
     - Hear that Agent Mike?  Patsy Stone   Feb-25-06 10:13 PM   #110 
  - Just WOW, unbelievable!  DemReadingDU   Feb-26-06 08:21 AM   #151 
     - Jackson Stephen's Systematics and Alltel are in on a lot of this  EVDebs   Feb-26-06 04:12 PM   #203 
  - Overseas they can listen to everything and archive it  Sydnie   Feb-25-06 09:37 PM   #61 
  - if they can do it overseas...  Viva_La_Revolution   Feb-25-06 09:38 PM   #64 
  - ChoicePoint was involved  Wheezy   Feb-25-06 09:37 PM   #62 
  - Do we know who that info was lost to?  Marie26   Feb-26-06 03:10 PM   #194 
     - Here's just a bit of info regarding one of the people involved in scam  Emit   Feb-26-06 03:16 PM   #196 
        - That's it?  Marie26   Feb-26-06 03:36 PM   #199 
           - THAT's exactly what I was thinking when I posted -- "That's IT"  Emit   Feb-26-06 03:39 PM   #200 
              - Incredibly odd - but  Marie26   Feb-26-06 03:49 PM   #201 
                 - There was also a Choicepoint exec killed in a 2001 planecrash, iirc.  blm   Feb-27-06 12:56 PM   #230 
  - Oh boy, I better not comment if I am to write on this...  lala_rawraw   Feb-25-06 09:38 PM   #63 
  - Ma'am, please step away from the keyboard.  bleever   Feb-25-06 09:43 PM   #70 
  - Russert is excited by this story, and that itself says a lot.  bleever   Feb-25-06 09:42 PM   #68 
  - Will he break his silence on MtP or another forum...  The Witch   Feb-25-06 10:27 PM   #117 
  - My hubby and I watched this last evening.  fooj   Feb-26-06 12:33 PM   #165 
  - Verifiable Intelligence in Long Island n/t  Sydnie   Feb-25-06 09:47 PM   #72 
  - Sys-x Corporation  livvy   Feb-25-06 09:47 PM   #73 
  - Verant (sp?)  Viva_La_Revolution   Feb-25-06 09:47 PM   #74 
  - voice recognition - sorts on key words to fit the response.  deminks   Feb-25-06 09:49 PM   #79 
  - Verint  globalvillage   Feb-25-06 09:49 PM   #80 
     - good. cause Verant is the company that created EverQuest  Viva_La_Revolution   Feb-25-06 09:55 PM   #91 
     - Hoovers snapshot on Verint  TayTay   Feb-25-06 09:56 PM   #94 
     - Interesting  Twist_U_Up   Feb-25-06 10:02 PM   #103 
        - "communications interception"  Marie26   Feb-26-06 03:15 PM   #195 
  - all new software for telecommunications have built in back doors  Sydnie   Feb-25-06 09:48 PM   #77 
  - Just like our voting machines  MelissaB   Feb-25-06 09:49 PM   #82 
  - Ding ding ding!!!  Sydnie   Feb-25-06 09:52 PM   #83 
  - No wonder Bushco calls this a vital tool. nt.  deminks   Feb-25-06 09:54 PM   #88 
  - Found this: don't know if it helps: SAIC and ES&S:  coffeenap   Feb-25-06 09:53 PM   #86 
     - and one from the other thread:  MelissaB   Feb-25-06 10:00 PM   #100 
     - SAIC  starroute   Feb-25-06 10:32 PM   #122 
        - Holy shit! These are former special ops guys?  Sydnie   Feb-25-06 10:41 PM   #127 
           - "Former" ? Once in, they don't leave.  EVDebs   Feb-27-06 06:48 PM   #235 
     - SAIC also has major ties to the CIA -- lots of staff is former CIA  RazzleDazzle   Feb-26-06 09:38 AM   #158 
     - Had a major ID theft lately, so somebody knows about these guys  EVDebs   Feb-27-06 06:53 PM   #236 
     - Really? Enter Dianne Feinstein.  fooj   Feb-26-06 02:04 PM   #184 
  - Is this a quote? Was this said by Risen?  The Witch   Feb-25-06 10:29 PM   #118 
  - Yes, Risen said that on the show n/t  Sydnie   Feb-25-06 10:31 PM   #119 
     - aw FUCK. n/t  The Witch   Feb-25-06 10:32 PM   #121 
  - This is why, IMO.  fooj   Feb-26-06 01:44 PM   #181 
  - uh oh!  Supersedeas   Feb-27-06 05:14 PM   #233 
  - ChoicePoint at a glance  TayTay   Feb-25-06 09:53 PM   #84 
  - RFID chips  Sydnie   Feb-25-06 09:53 PM   #85 
  - And that's another reason I don't trust vaccinations now  RazzleDazzle   Feb-26-06 09:42 AM   #160 
  - OH HELL!!!  im10ashus   Feb-25-06 09:53 PM   #87 
  - Outsourcing ports = outsourcing NSA surveillance capabilities!  bleever   Feb-25-06 09:55 PM   #90 
  - You said what I was trying to say down thead - but so much better  Sydnie   Feb-25-06 09:58 PM   #98 
  - Bringing up security issues with foreign intelligence gaining access.  deminks   Feb-25-06 09:56 PM   #92 
  - He just scared me with the intelligence community and flight  Sydnie   Feb-25-06 09:56 PM   #93 
  - Risen equates * admin with "men of zeal without understanding"  bleever   Feb-25-06 09:57 PM   #96 
  - Done with the best intentions, my ass! That goes hand in hand with  OmmmSweetOmmm   Feb-25-06 09:58 PM   #97 
  - I think it's his way of getting the word out.  fooj   Feb-26-06 12:50 PM   #170 
  - VIDEO - Widespread Surveillance Testimony  dzika   Feb-25-06 09:59 PM   #99 
  - Look who's here!  Patsy Stone   Feb-25-06 10:09 PM   #108 
  - Excellent.  bleever   Feb-25-06 10:10 PM   #109 
  - so many connections  jarnocan   Feb-25-06 10:23 PM   #114 
  - I saw that the other day! This is a must look see.  Emit   Feb-25-06 10:38 PM   #126 
  - Thank you  proud patriot   Feb-26-06 01:53 PM   #182 
  - Here's O'Harrow's WaPo article about Global Information Group  Patsy Stone   Feb-25-06 10:08 PM   #107 
  - so, is TIA alive and well?  rodeodance   Feb-25-06 10:14 PM   #111 
  - And living comfortably  Patsy Stone   Feb-25-06 10:25 PM   #115 
  - So...WaPo and NYT staffers save the world? Or at least stand up for Truth  bleever   Feb-25-06 10:35 PM   #125 
  - It's always the quiet ones  Patsy Stone   Feb-25-06 10:47 PM   #128 
  - "Amass large databases of international records"  Marie26   Feb-26-06 04:12 PM   #204 
     - I think everything feeds through these people  Patsy Stone   Feb-26-06 05:21 PM   #213 
        - Yes, I agree  Marie26   Feb-26-06 05:36 PM   #214 
  - One DU link on outsourcing of T.I.A. to enter that angle of things:  bleever   Feb-25-06 10:19 PM   #112 
  - K&R, I don't have CNBC but just from the OP & threads  The Witch   Feb-25-06 10:22 PM   #113 
  - "1company... is involved in another business all together"  The Witch   Feb-25-06 10:25 PM   #116 
  - Very good question n/t  Sydnie   Feb-25-06 10:52 PM   #132 
  - AllTel?  ekelly   Feb-27-06 01:50 AM   #225 
  - Maybe a dupe but wasn't Wesley Clarke on Axciom's board? n/t  peace_on_earth   Feb-25-06 10:32 PM   #120 
  - Looks like it  MelissaB   Feb-25-06 10:34 PM   #123 
     - I loved Clarke until I read he was on the board of Acxiom  peace_on_earth   Feb-25-06 10:48 PM   #129 
        - Yup. It's scared me, too.  barbaraann   Feb-25-06 11:00 PM   #134 
        - Welcome to DU! Love your screen name.  fooj   Feb-26-06 12:54 PM   #173 
  - ChoicePoint Ashcroft Connection  Emit   Feb-25-06 10:35 PM   #124 
  - so, he wasn't comfortable with approving things when he was  Sydnie   Feb-25-06 10:50 PM   #130 
  - A crazy thought comes to mind...  AntiFascist   Feb-25-06 10:52 PM   #133 
  - That is not a crazy thought  leftchick   Feb-26-06 08:13 AM   #150 
  - An army of drafted illegal aliens?  Marie26   Feb-26-06 04:24 PM   #205 
     - There was a post somewhere...  AntiFascist   Feb-26-06 09:51 PM   #221 
  - A thread a year ago covered a little of this stuff  starroute   Feb-25-06 11:32 PM   #135 
  - Video Clips from Russert NSA Show  dzika   Feb-25-06 11:56 PM   #137 
  - Thanks, dzika!  MelissaB   Feb-26-06 08:58 AM   #154 
  - Awesome!  im10ashus   Feb-26-06 10:09 AM   #162 
  - Thank you! n/t  DemReadingDU   Feb-26-06 10:13 AM   #163 
  - Thanks for that one too  proud patriot   Feb-26-06 02:18 PM   #185 
  - Thank you!  Marie26   Feb-26-06 04:26 PM   #206 
  - Check this out! - Choicepoint and Diebold  pirhana   Feb-26-06 01:21 AM   #141 
  - Armitage - ChoicePoint/Sell of Seisint to LexisNexis/Matrix - Cheney link  Emit   Feb-26-06 01:51 AM   #142 
  - LexisNexis had breach too, like Choicept last year: commonality - Asher  Emit   Feb-26-06 02:24 AM   #143 
  - NYT article from 2/25/06 on data miniing and TIA- LINK & EXCERPT:  Nothing Without Hope   Feb-26-06 05:08 AM   #145 
  - Related 2/23 post on how the DOD secretly continued the cancelled  Nothing Without Hope   Feb-26-06 05:14 AM   #146 
  - surveillance, software and backdoors: PTECH software  rman   Feb-26-06 05:20 AM   #147 
  - Ptech link- was used by FAA on 911/also Rumsfield-internet control?  jarnocan   Feb-26-06 08:03 AM   #149 
  - PTECH RAID/INVESTIGATION Compiled by Indira Singh  seemslikeadream   Feb-26-06 08:50 AM   #153 
  - PROMIS- Oliver North used it to track dissidents/domestic emer prog?  Emit   Feb-26-06 05:18 PM   #211 
  - kick for ptech reference. nt  wiggs   Feb-27-06 12:42 PM   #228 
  - Sounds like THIS is what Russell Tice referred to earlier this month:  Nothing Without Hope   Feb-26-06 05:55 AM   #148 
  - Transcript for this show?  DemReadingDU   Feb-26-06 08:36 AM   #152 
  - I have searched hither and yawn.  im10ashus   Feb-26-06 09:41 AM   #159 
  - Dzika posted some clips in post #137.  MelissaB   Feb-26-06 10:06 AM   #161 
  - A list of names...  fooj   Feb-26-06 01:00 PM   #176 
  - ACLU on MATRIX.........  Joanne98   Feb-26-06 01:02 PM   #177 
  - Gonzales, in his cong. testimony, kept refering to  troubleinwinter   Feb-26-06 01:42 PM   #180 
  - KIck (nt)  stickdog   Feb-26-06 04:11 PM   #202 
  - CHOICEPOINT BOUGHT DBT ONLINE  flyarm   Feb-26-06 04:43 PM   #207 
  - Hiya Flyarm!  fooj   Feb-26-06 06:01 PM   #216 
  - hey fooj correct on post 181!! and it was started when choicepoint  flyarm   Feb-26-06 07:44 PM   #218 
     - PNAC blueprint! IN PLAIN SIGHT!  fooj   Feb-26-06 08:54 PM   #219 
  - This sure can USE some CAPS hell yeah  BelgianMadCow   Feb-27-06 07:31 PM   #237 
  - Kick  fooj   Feb-27-06 12:50 PM   #229 
  - Accenture and Axciom  cosmicdot   Feb-27-06 11:25 PM   #238 
     - Accenture=Andersen Consulting=Arthur Andersen that audited Enron bks  Emit   Feb-28-06 12:19 AM   #240 

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