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| 25. Someone needs to make the executive branch take a basic course |
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in government. Their job isn't to "interpret" the laws. I'm totally amazed at how laws are constantly reinterpreted by this president and company to mean whatever the hell they want. I'm sure they see laws as "guidelines".
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| -thread # 2 on Senate Hearing of port issue |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 11:55 AM |
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eating my popcorn |
JesterCS |
Feb-23-06 11:56 AM |
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Thanks! |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Feb-23-06 11:57 AM |
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thank YEW for number two! |
TexasLady |
Feb-23-06 11:58 AM |
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well, i had lunch no popcorn drats. |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 11:58 AM |
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Levin is trying to impress on the bums that they should have done a |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:00 PM |
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ah ha-Levin--If you or Exc. branch does NOT like the law-come to us |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:01 PM |
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Levin wants Sen. Legal consil to address the law also as he does not trust |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:02 PM |
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Woo hoo! Thanks Rodeodance! |
FLDem5 |
Feb-23-06 11:59 AM |
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"if you want the law changed, come to Congress to CHANGE it" |
FLDem5 |
Feb-23-06 12:00 PM |
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WOW |
JesterCS |
Feb-23-06 12:00 PM |
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Kimmett: We didn't ignore the law; we might interpret it differently |
Norquist Nemesis |
Feb-23-06 12:00 PM |
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I Was Just Going To Post The Same Thing! |
ChiciB1 |
Feb-23-06 12:03 PM |
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surreal |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:05 PM |
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Isn't it ODD how no laws are ever ignored, they're just "interpreted |
in_cog_ni_to |
Feb-23-06 12:05 PM |
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"might" interpret it differently |
rman |
Feb-23-06 12:24 PM |
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it is SO obvious this could affect national security |
cal04 |
Feb-23-06 12:00 PM |
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"that has been one of the tough questions" |
FLDem5 |
Feb-23-06 12:02 PM |
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but but...Haven't you been listening to Bush? |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:25 PM |
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Unreal- Warner- let's get you to write down your INTERPRETATION of the law |
liveoaktx |
Feb-23-06 12:01 PM |
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gawd-this has a de ju vu of the WH and NSA--make up laws as you go. |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:03 PM |
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OK. I was on the phone and missed whether anyone was sworn in. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Feb-23-06 12:02 PM |
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No |
JesterCS |
Feb-23-06 12:03 PM |
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NOPE!!!!!!! Apparently, this is a "briefing" rather than a "hearing" |
Norquist Nemesis |
Feb-23-06 12:03 PM |
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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Those assholes! |
in_cog_ni_to |
Feb-23-06 12:07 PM |
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Ha! They're probably watching Rove stroking Hannity |
Norquist Nemesis |
Feb-23-06 12:17 PM |
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yes. it seems the WH sent down their Secretaries to get the 'facts" to all |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:31 PM |
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gonzales is going to save the day again with his "interpretation" |
Sydnie |
Feb-23-06 12:02 PM |
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te he but Levin asked to have Senate lawyers also look at the law!! |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:04 PM |
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War is Peace n/t |
Norquist Nemesis |
Feb-23-06 12:06 PM |
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Levin keeps throwing in pat UAE -1/3 countries that recognized Taliban. |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:06 PM |
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Lawery--there was only one official meeting then they looks at documents. |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:07 PM |
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whow--they do not minutes or any documenations of these meetings yet |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:08 PM |
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Someone needs to make the executive branch take a basic course |
pdxmom |
Feb-23-06 12:06 PM |
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When law are "interpreted" by judges, they're called 'activist' n/t |
Norquist Nemesis |
Feb-23-06 12:08 PM |
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Clinton Up Again |
JesterCS |
Feb-23-06 12:07 PM |
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Q: How many times did CFIUS meet? A: Once |
Norquist Nemesis |
Feb-23-06 12:09 PM |
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Clinton: "are there proxy rules for CFIUS?" |
FLDem5 |
Feb-23-06 12:07 PM |
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How Casually our National Security is taken-ONE OFFICIAL MEETING of CFIUS |
liveoaktx |
Feb-23-06 12:07 PM |
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the Secretaries are getting a little tense. |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:09 PM |
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Clay was looking |
JesterCS |
Feb-23-06 12:10 PM |
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did you hear that. A secretary said he thought the company would keep |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:10 PM |
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whow. questions from the press. |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:11 PM |
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Warner says it is unwise to say what Congress/WH will do in the future |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:12 PM |
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Hillary telling the press there WILL be legislation introduced. |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:12 PM |
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Amazing doesn't describe that statement! |
Norquist Nemesis |
Feb-23-06 12:12 PM |
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yes, and Clinton keeps reminding them--but......(they are a bit slow) |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:15 PM |
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"I guess I would have thought they would have contacted the states" |
FLDem5 |
Feb-23-06 12:10 PM |
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I have a question? |
Jeanette in FL |
Feb-23-06 12:10 PM |
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They've probably been threatened by the WH. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Feb-23-06 12:12 PM |
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Don't know why they aren't there-but they aren't-ONLY Dems |
liveoaktx |
Feb-23-06 12:12 PM |
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It IS odd--maybe they are out fund raising? |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:30 PM |
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they all had "previous commitments" |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Feb-23-06 12:24 PM |
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"I would have thought that the companies would have consulted |
Norquist Nemesis |
Feb-23-06 12:11 PM |
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Clinton's point about having to include the states in what happens |
FLDem5 |
Feb-23-06 12:11 PM |
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And the Secretary says, "Oh good one! I though it was 'the company's |
Norquist Nemesis |
Feb-23-06 12:14 PM |
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Oh, I am so sick of the Long War. |
The Witch |
Feb-23-06 12:12 PM |
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I heard Kimmitt (the other one) last night say that people who think |
liveoaktx |
Feb-23-06 12:13 PM |
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He is right. This WH wants to spread democracy--troops are just one |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:32 PM |
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yes, rather sick that the reporter would assume a "long war"!! |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:14 PM |
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Well, it's time for us to start calling it the "endless war" n/t |
Norquist Nemesis |
Feb-23-06 12:16 PM |
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Clinton "there WILL be legislation introduced" |
FLDem5 |
Feb-23-06 12:13 PM |
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Is this the Joseph that got us into Iraq |
cal04 |
Feb-23-06 12:14 PM |
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CBS question - "only one port in question is equipped with a working |
FLDem5 |
Feb-23-06 12:15 PM |
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Are these reporters being allowed to ask questions |
Sydnie |
Feb-23-06 12:15 PM |
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Reuters: After this today, do any of you now believe that there should |
FLDem5 |
Feb-23-06 12:18 PM |
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that was funny. eom. |
FLDem5 |
Feb-23-06 12:18 PM |
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only 1 of the 6 ports has radiation scanner n/t |
JesterCS |
Feb-23-06 12:15 PM |
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Reuters--asking if 45 day invest. will be a good idea. |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:17 PM |
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te he--one Sec is saying it would be up to Adm. to determine if 45 day |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:18 PM |
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boy--look at all the press in the room. |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:18 PM |
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Good question-how many 45 day investigations have there been? |
liveoaktx |
Feb-23-06 12:18 PM |
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Interesting he doesn't have the details under this administration |
Norquist Nemesis |
Feb-23-06 12:21 PM |
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Non answer. I can't do anything without Bush holding my hand. |
FormerRepublican |
Feb-23-06 12:18 PM |
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oh OH--Warner said as of now he has not found a breach in procedures |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:20 PM |
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wonder if he got any phone calls |
cal04 |
Feb-23-06 12:20 PM |
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my wonder is---Did he have coffee with Bush last night? |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:22 PM |
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DAM--Imo--this means he will not rec. the 45 day to Bush !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:20 PM |
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It will then get kicked to the states and the courts where the |
Skidmore |
Feb-23-06 12:25 PM |
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Well, Hell! Let's just open it all up!!! |
Norquist Nemesis |
Feb-23-06 12:23 PM |
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"I just can't imagine" |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:26 PM |
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One must remember that Warner is a Moonie. He is the one who set up |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Feb-23-06 12:24 PM |
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stats on investigations from 2005 |
mainah |
Feb-23-06 12:35 PM |
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Thanks, mainah. Welcome to DU |
Rose Siding |
Feb-23-06 12:37 PM |
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Thanks! |
mainah |
Feb-23-06 12:39 PM |
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UAE company are here now--saying at the embassy in DC--cnn was |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:23 PM |
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is there any doubt when they stay at the embassy that it is state-owned |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:24 PM |
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They won't interview with them because "Lou Dobbs won't shut up" |
Norquist Nemesis |
Feb-23-06 12:24 PM |
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yes, i recall that statement now. te he. |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:25 PM |
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I saw that - it was great - he was pissed. |
FLDem5 |
Feb-23-06 12:28 PM |
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yuk fox |
cal04 |
Feb-23-06 12:25 PM |
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Clinton: "Definition of National Security is a moving target" |
Norquist Nemesis |
Feb-23-06 12:25 PM |
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I snorted when I heard that! |
FLDem5 |
Feb-23-06 12:26 PM |
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yes. good one. |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:37 PM |
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There you have it! Warner just said no problem |
Norquist Nemesis |
Feb-23-06 12:28 PM |
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He calls that a "full disclosure"? |
Skidmore |
Feb-23-06 12:28 PM |
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lets have few nominations for the last afternoon people. I have to leave |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:28 PM |
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GOOD finally someone asks about the public |
cal04 |
Feb-23-06 12:29 PM |
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Pacifica radio:Hillary answered great |
cal04 |
Feb-23-06 12:36 PM |
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a press person is asking for documents and Warner seems to say yes. |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:34 PM |
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Whow==Hil--this in not about race--but the track record of UAE/company |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:35 PM |
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And she completely confronted and turned the whole |
suffragette |
Feb-23-06 12:37 PM |
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I raise a glass to HIL. She done good today. |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:38 PM |
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And a glass to you, too, for this thread |
suffragette |
Feb-23-06 12:41 PM |
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Warner--we need to look at the 'ambuity of the law"---GEECH--so now |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:36 PM |
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a Dem is first caller to cspan Call in now. |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:39 PM |
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Screw Warner. Time to pack your bags, you rat bastard. |
fooj |
Feb-23-06 12:41 PM |
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hey was that a Repug saying that America needs a fresh breath of air after |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:41 PM |
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Independant |
JesterCS |
Feb-23-06 12:41 PM |
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I missed it - what was the context? |
FLDem5 |
Feb-23-06 12:42 PM |
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Basically |
JesterCS |
Feb-23-06 12:43 PM |
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Clinton talking to press so csapn is letting us listen. |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:42 PM |
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she is explaining the 45 day bill that is being proposed says it has |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:43 PM |
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Hil:--she is amazed that no one in Adm. thinks this could affect nat. se |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:44 PM |
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says, not one person raised one red flag!!!!!!! |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:45 PM |
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bill should be out by next week |
cal04 |
Feb-23-06 12:44 PM |
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"on the face of it, it could affect national security" |
suffragette |
Feb-23-06 12:45 PM |
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but she also said 'unless the WH makes a move" |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:46 PM |
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meaning the WH could (if use brains)-call for the 45 day review. |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:47 PM |
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I'll be surprised if they get more than one call |
cal04 |
Feb-23-06 12:46 PM |
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Current caller |
JesterCS |
Feb-23-06 12:47 PM |
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republican appalled and about to change parties |
cal04 |
Feb-23-06 12:47 PM |
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lol repub is about to swith to dem |
JesterCS |
Feb-23-06 12:48 PM |
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Independent from FLa |
cal04 |
Feb-23-06 12:50 PM |
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excellent question |
gkhouston |
Feb-23-06 12:52 PM |
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two callers saying they are scared by what they heard (not heard) today. |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:48 PM |
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and one was a Repug saying he was ready to switch to Dem. |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:48 PM |
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he basically said that the Adm panal was incompetant!!!! whow. |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:49 PM |
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the one Indenpendant |
JesterCS |
Feb-23-06 12:50 PM |
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Indep. caller asking why we have to outsource everything. |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:50 PM |
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caller--appalled that people on panal think nat. secur. NOT affected. |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:51 PM |
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gee, i do not think the Repug callers are agreeing with the Dems. |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:52 PM |
#129 |
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Indep caller wants American conpanies to bid on these sales. |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:53 PM |
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he also said that we need to consider if these are kickbacks to Bush |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:53 PM |
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Okay, which one of you is calling the Independent line? |
gkhouston |
Feb-23-06 12:54 PM |
#137 |
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Bingo All about money |
cal04 |
Feb-23-06 12:52 PM |
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Folks, I don't think this little charade Warner put on helped one |
Skidmore |
Feb-23-06 12:52 PM |
#131 |
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expect WH backpedaling to begin shortly. |
gkhouston |
Feb-23-06 12:53 PM |
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Cheney? during a bout of PTSD resulting from the trauma he |
Skidmore |
Feb-23-06 12:54 PM |
#136 |
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Independant |
JesterCS |
Feb-23-06 12:53 PM |
#134 |
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well, Warner just lost! (he and the WH panal) |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:54 PM |
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Dems one; WH/Warner ZIPPO |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 12:55 PM |
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I think you're right, even the repubs don't want |
cal04 |
Feb-23-06 12:55 PM |
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i am hoping this is the straw that breaks the camels back! |
rodeodance |
Feb-23-06 01:03 PM |
#141 |
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we still have work to do on those |
cal04 |
Feb-23-06 01:11 PM |
#142 |
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