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Sun Feb-19-06 08:09 PM
Response to Reply #104 |
| 105. I haven't read the bill... |
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Edited on Sun Feb-19-06 08:12 PM by Wordie
so I would have to reserve judgement until then. There's a lot I like about Hillary, but I also think she has a tendency to pander at times. (Did you see the clips of her a while ago, praising the Israeli apartheid wall? Not pretty.)
And as for ties of the UAE to 9/11, are you sure about that?
One could say, for instance, that the US was also a staging area for the terrorists, as many of them lived here for quite some time, but that in itself doesn't imply that anyone in our government was involved. And because their banking system was used by the 9/11 terrorists doesn't necessarily say much either. The UAE tends to be a bit more libreral than many of the surrounding arab countries, and is somewhere a foreigner could stay without attracting too much attention, so that might be an alternative explanation as to why several of the terrorists spent time there. And we as a nation have our native Timothy McVeighs and Unibombers, but that doesn't necessarily, once again, say anything about our government or the majority of people in our culture.
You said, ...the UAE can't or won't stop the terrorists from using there soil against us. That's not bigotry, that's a fact. So far, I haven't seen or read anything that establishes that as a fact. Again, what is the ultimate source of this information? Could it be spin?
I am not really intending to defend the UAE here - as I said, I just don't know enough - but I just don't want to get everyone so riled up that we jump off a cliff that we could have avoided.
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| -Bush has Handed Us an Issue That can Create a 2006 Dem. Landslide |
louis c |
Feb-18-06 08:16 PM |
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Our 'free trade globalists' will not grab this issue. |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-18-06 08:20 PM |
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More like bought off... |
sadiesworld |
Feb-19-06 06:16 AM |
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this is the real problem--Dems haven't lacked for big targets before |
yurbud |
Feb-19-06 04:54 PM |
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Bingo! |
mom cat |
Feb-19-06 06:36 PM |
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DUH....what was Bush thinking??? sounds like he is indeed over the TOP |
opihimoimoi |
Feb-18-06 08:22 PM |
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Who do you think's been laundering the money all this time? |
rucky |
Feb-19-06 02:24 AM |
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Gotta be honest |
Brothaman2k |
Feb-19-06 04:33 PM |
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I'm not getting why BushCo wants interests associated with the UAE in |
Old Crusoe |
Feb-18-06 08:23 PM |
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You're right to be worried |
burythehatchet |
Feb-18-06 08:27 PM |
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We should all be cynical if that's what you are, burythehatchet. You |
Old Crusoe |
Feb-18-06 08:32 PM |
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besides, its not like there isn't a laundry list |
burythehatchet |
Feb-18-06 08:38 PM |
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I hear you on that -- especially with Abu Ghraib. It is the most |
Old Crusoe |
Feb-18-06 08:43 PM |
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However |
louis c |
Feb-18-06 08:54 PM |
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Plamegate, the NSA domestic spying are tied together by pre 9-11 |
EVDebs |
Feb-19-06 12:34 PM |
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You know, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar |
louis c |
Feb-18-06 08:28 PM |
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Sometimes cigars are just cigars, but other times they are designed |
Old Crusoe |
Feb-18-06 08:30 PM |
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I'll accept the Clintons' political instincts on this one...... |
louis c |
Feb-18-06 08:38 PM |
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Ok. Fair enough. I think Senator Clinton is a damned bright soul -- |
Old Crusoe |
Feb-18-06 08:45 PM |
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Maybe they didn't see it coming |
louis c |
Feb-18-06 08:52 PM |
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I will cross my fingers and hope you are right. I want you to be. |
Old Crusoe |
Feb-18-06 08:56 PM |
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Maybe they've just gotten used to getting away with everything |
FatDave |
Feb-19-06 01:50 AM |
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Well, Dave, maybe I am going to have to do some re-thinking on this |
Old Crusoe |
Feb-19-06 01:56 AM |
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For the record, that's my optimistic interpretation |
FatDave |
Feb-19-06 04:12 AM |
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Simple. They don't care. |
KnaveRupe |
Feb-19-06 06:06 PM |
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You forget that these criminals are all about |
tblue37 |
Feb-18-06 11:52 PM |
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Hi, tblue37. I definitely don't discount that it's a screw-up by BushCo, |
Old Crusoe |
Feb-19-06 12:01 AM |
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Agreed. |
freefall |
Feb-19-06 04:45 PM |
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How does UAE port security keep us safe? |
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin |
Feb-18-06 08:30 PM |
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I didn't say it very well. I meant that if BushCo endorses what they |
Old Crusoe |
Feb-18-06 08:34 PM |
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This is their Achilles Heal |
Caretha |
Feb-19-06 08:47 AM |
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Hey, thanks for the encouragement |
louis c |
Feb-19-06 06:03 PM |
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ridicule Bush and Cheney on how inept they are on national security |
savemefromdumbya |
Feb-18-06 08:27 PM |
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Actual Conservatives and Libertarians are agressively.. |
Disturbed |
Feb-18-06 08:34 PM |
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Seems that the ports that this UAE company will be 'protecting...' |
femrap |
Feb-19-06 08:12 PM |
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I think you're right |
sable302 |
Feb-18-06 08:30 PM |
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I agree but, anyone with half a brain can see that this admin. |
Quakerfriend |
Feb-18-06 08:31 PM |
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They'll find some other reason |
FreedomAngel82 |
Feb-18-06 08:39 PM |
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It seems to have opened their eyes. |
FatDave |
Feb-19-06 01:22 AM |
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It's NOT insane - it's a deliberate part of their goal - global fascism. |
blm |
Feb-18-06 08:31 PM |
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Yes and don't forget |
Justice Is Comin |
Feb-18-06 08:32 PM |
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I see a problem with the Clinton/Menendez bill. |
napi21 |
Feb-18-06 08:36 PM |
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I think we can use it |
FreedomAngel82 |
Feb-18-06 08:37 PM |
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Bush is to busy making crystal meth to realize what he's done.... |
Mr_Spock |
Feb-18-06 08:39 PM |
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I expect the dems to come out with a strong, united message against this |
pirhana |
Feb-18-06 08:41 PM |
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By George, I think you've got it |
louis c |
Feb-18-06 08:47 PM |
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Right-on, if we have good strong leadership, not the kind we have had |
Jon8503 |
Feb-18-06 10:37 PM |
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Ooops, Lieberman is already wishy washy on it. Forget the united thing. |
bklyncowgirl |
Feb-19-06 06:28 PM |
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that is truly amazing! I heard that a few days ago and I... |
augie38 |
Feb-18-06 08:52 PM |
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Doesn't he trust Americans to do the job right? |
alfredo |
Feb-18-06 08:53 PM |
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Of course not, he thinks all Americans are like him. N/T. |
Jon8503 |
Feb-18-06 10:30 PM |
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Strongly agree on this one. . . |
brensgrrl |
Feb-18-06 08:57 PM |
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And, so, if we don't get a Dem landslide from this |
Emit |
Feb-18-06 09:05 PM |
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Why does the bush hate Amerika??? |
Az_lefty |
Feb-18-06 09:08 PM |
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Those 'instincts' are rising up all over... |
Dr_eldritch |
Feb-18-06 09:32 PM |
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When someone as insipid as Savage turns on Benito |
LibertyorDeath |
Feb-18-06 10:31 PM |
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kick in the evening |
louis c |
Feb-21-06 05:40 PM |
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kick and recommended n/t |
Swamp Rat |
Feb-18-06 10:33 PM |
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Totally agree, it's a great issue |
ruggerson |
Feb-18-06 10:34 PM |
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Said it before and will say it |
BenDavid |
Feb-19-06 12:12 AM |
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Let's see who starts defending the decision. |
rucky |
Feb-19-06 02:19 AM |
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Well, maybe not surprisingly, Joe Lieberman is trying to defend it ~ |
Catrina |
Feb-19-06 02:20 PM |
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Well, the Dems couldn't sell anything else... |
HypnoToad |
Feb-19-06 12:14 AM |
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Lou Dobbs came out swinging on this issue Friday |
Hekate |
Feb-19-06 01:24 AM |
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Bush truly doesn't think he has any confines whatsoever. |
Justice Is Comin |
Feb-19-06 02:04 AM |
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agree and I love Lou Dobbs for reporting this kind of stuff |
barb162 |
Feb-19-06 02:13 AM |
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Has Keith Olbermann covered this yet? |
mwb970 |
Feb-19-06 06:23 PM |
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I can see someone like Sen. Kennedy spelling this out.... |
AntiFascist |
Feb-19-06 01:41 AM |
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the 9/11 panel gave BushCo 5 F's and 12 D's |
upi402 |
Feb-19-06 01:52 AM |
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even LEIBERMAN should be screaming about this one.... |
annabanana |
Feb-19-06 06:12 AM |
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Now now. I'm sure Lieberman will support us on this |
niallmac |
Feb-19-06 10:05 AM |
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Yep! This is the one. Fear of Arabs trumps all w/ the true-believers. |
rucky |
Feb-19-06 02:13 AM |
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This is THE issue to create the Democrat's tipping point to 2006 victory. |
file83 |
Feb-19-06 02:51 AM |
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kcik |
BuyingThyme |
Feb-19-06 02:55 AM |
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So..you still think elections matter? |
sellitman |
Feb-19-06 07:40 AM |
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One issue? |
antifaschits |
Feb-19-06 08:14 AM |
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So, now the Dems are in a Bogeyman contest with the Pugs? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Feb-19-06 08:21 AM |
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This strikes at two issues |
louis c |
Feb-19-06 08:59 AM |
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Mere bogeyman? |
AntiFascist |
Feb-19-06 01:34 PM |
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a unified message requires a unified party |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Feb-19-06 09:14 AM |
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If we can get Lou Dobbs on it we'll destroy them....... |
Joanne98 |
Feb-19-06 09:16 AM |
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Already started exploiting to the hilt as you suggest. Sent this LTTE: |
KzooDem |
Feb-19-06 09:28 AM |
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Very good |
louis c |
Feb-19-06 09:34 AM |
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Sound like they didn't run this one by a focus group |
Canuckistanian |
Feb-19-06 10:01 AM |
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Yer damn skippy - It's a winner for Democrats |
progressoid |
Feb-19-06 10:35 AM |
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Between this and nuclear power plants |
Generator |
Feb-19-06 11:31 AM |
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k&nom |
ooglymoogly |
Feb-19-06 12:08 PM |
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As far as the entire 9-11 issue, check out Greg Palast's stuff on NSA |
EVDebs |
Feb-19-06 12:29 PM |
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If it weren't so sad it would be funny. |
Maraya1969 |
Feb-19-06 02:23 PM |
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Bush will back down on this |
Hokie |
Feb-19-06 04:00 PM |
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That's why we need to get out in front |
louis c |
Feb-19-06 09:38 PM |
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Say old DU story "And Cheney going down this time" The media dictates |
Zinfandel |
Feb-19-06 04:15 PM |
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Absolutely...we need to rip them to shreds with this. n/t |
Clarkie1 |
Feb-19-06 04:28 PM |
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My right-wing family is ENRAGED over this |
Seen the light |
Feb-19-06 04:52 PM |
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Agreed!! |
x-g.o.p.er |
Feb-19-06 04:53 PM |
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As long as the election doesnt get framed by them |
Ksec |
Feb-19-06 04:59 PM |
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I agree. Can we do an "Activist Alert?" |
crispini |
Feb-19-06 06:02 PM |
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DLC Will Never Allow Party to Grab Any Issue that unites the working class |
Leopolds Ghost |
Feb-19-06 06:21 PM |
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My fear is this will lead to, or is a part of, more anti-Muslim bigotry. |
Wordie |
Feb-19-06 06:36 PM |
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Can We Please, Please |
louis c |
Feb-19-06 06:41 PM |
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Sorry, I don't want to use bigotry to win elections. (read disclaimer) |
Wordie |
Feb-19-06 06:54 PM |
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That's what hillary's bill says |
louis c |
Feb-19-06 07:43 PM |
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I haven't read the bill... |
Wordie |
Feb-19-06 08:09 PM |
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Here you go.... |
louis c |
Feb-19-06 08:24 PM |
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Ok...I checked them out with SourceWatch, who said they were pretty |
Wordie |
Feb-19-06 08:49 PM |
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This is better, another DUer did all the work |
louis c |
Feb-19-06 08:34 PM |
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Bigotry need not be an issue. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Feb-19-06 08:56 PM |
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I would feel more comfortable with that sort of approach. Thanks. |
Wordie |
Feb-19-06 09:55 PM |
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Good points louis c. As reported so far, this is a real visceral issue for |
pinto |
Feb-19-06 06:38 PM |
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Thanks, but it's louis c |
louis c |
Feb-19-06 06:43 PM |
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Sorry. I knew that. My best friend is a "Lois", must be a typing habit. |
pinto |
Feb-19-06 06:47 PM |
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That's OK |
louis c |
Feb-19-06 06:53 PM |
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I agree -- AND distribute pics of Chimpy holding hands with "Bandar Bush." |
Sparkly |
Feb-19-06 06:48 PM |
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IT IS SO VERY VERY CLEAR..... |
rodriguez94 |
Feb-19-06 07:31 PM |
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Hello Fox GOP News: It's one More reason to Impeach our Saudi President. |
fearnobush |
Feb-19-06 08:31 PM |
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kick. |
pinto |
Feb-19-06 09:04 PM |
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kick in the evening |
louis c |
Feb-20-06 09:06 PM |
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