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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 03:08 PM
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20. Yep, and that increase is driven by two things...
administration costs and the slowing of the stock market. Insurance companies do NOT make money on the premiums themselves. They use what they have from premiums and invest in the stock market. When the market goes down, premiums go up to make up the difference, when the stocks are good, the premiums are low. Simple really, it also doesn't help that the administration costs for health care industry are increasing lately, sometimes dramatically, but thems the breaks when it comes to the greed of CEOs and the increase in "Managed" care.
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  -I oppose Hillarycare from the Left bluestateguy  Feb-11-06 01:40 PM   #0 
  - I agree with you, but for personal reasons  ayeshahaqqiqa   Feb-11-06 02:10 PM   #1 
  - Better solution  Poppyseedman   Feb-11-06 02:14 PM   #2 
  - Well medical liability is a two-way street  liberalpragmatist   Feb-11-06 02:22 PM   #4 
  - Until you fix the legal end of the cost of medical care,  Poppyseedman   Feb-11-06 02:37 PM   #11 
  - Highly overrated...  Solon   Feb-11-06 02:53 PM   #14 
  - Good answer. Liability costs are a red herring. Thanks for the link.  pinto   Feb-11-06 03:00 PM   #18 
     - Yep, and that increase is driven by two things...  Solon   Feb-11-06 03:08 PM   #20 
        - Almost  sandnsea   Feb-11-06 03:56 PM   #34 
  - Oh yes by all means lets do what the AMA says. What a crock.  greyhound1966   Feb-11-06 04:09 PM   #43 
  - There is NOT a lot of frivolous malpractice lawsuits!!!  PBass   Feb-11-06 04:35 PM   #55 
  - "Tort reform" is a sideshow. Kindest way to address this post.  faygokid   Feb-11-06 02:27 PM   #6 
  - Get ready to be unloaded on...............you asked for it.  Poppyseedman   Feb-11-06 02:58 PM   #16 
     - debunked...post 14 n/t  Solon   Feb-11-06 03:09 PM   #21 
     - My comment about government largesse  Poppyseedman   Feb-11-06 03:15 PM   #25 
        - Actually I didn't say that...  Solon   Feb-11-06 03:22 PM   #27 
           - I think you're going to have to wait a long time for an answer. n/t  greyhound1966   Feb-11-06 04:19 PM   #47 
     - "tort reform is the place to start"  Warren Stupidity   Feb-11-06 03:11 PM   #22 
     - Care to back that assertion up with a source? .  Poppyseedman   Feb-11-06 03:19 PM   #26 
     - As soon as you address the numerous posts here  Warren Stupidity   Feb-11-06 03:37 PM   #30 
     - tort reform is a strategic RW intiative--don't take the bait!  Katherine Brengle   Feb-11-06 03:56 PM   #33 
     - I think others are addressing your contention well.  faygokid   Feb-11-06 03:14 PM   #23 
     - Think about this practically...  Solon   Feb-11-06 03:14 PM   #24 
     - If tort reform is going to lower costs  Nite Owl   Feb-11-06 03:33 PM   #29 
     - AMA are suckers  OzarkDem   Feb-11-06 04:12 PM   #45 
     - Red herring, no it isn't  OzarkDem   Feb-11-06 04:11 PM   #44 
     - Which is why the dems  Nite Owl   Feb-11-06 05:00 PM   #68 
     - Wrong! More RW corporate BS.  greyhound1966   Feb-11-06 04:18 PM   #46 
  - Tort reform is a strawman...  SoCalDem   Feb-11-06 03:03 PM   #19 
  - a recommendation  ptolle   Feb-11-06 04:03 PM   #39 
  - HSAs are a rip-off. I'm a self-employed person who has done the math  Lydia Leftcoast   Feb-12-06 09:18 AM   #88 
  - Conservative Analysis says Single Payer the most Economically Sound  radio4progressives   Feb-11-06 02:20 PM   #3 
  - yes  savemefromdumbya   Feb-11-06 04:46 PM   #63 
  - I totally agree.....  ingac70   Feb-11-06 02:25 PM   #5 
  - I agree, too. Single payer is the way to go.  faygokid   Feb-11-06 02:28 PM   #7 
  - I doubt Hillary would revive the Hillarycare approach  liberalpragmatist   Feb-11-06 02:30 PM   #8 
  - Her proposal may not have been up to snuff in your opinion,  AtomicKitten   Feb-11-06 02:32 PM   #9 
  - Sounds like you don't know much  OzarkDem   Feb-11-06 02:34 PM   #10 
  - The Clinton proposal was corrupt  Warren Stupidity   Feb-11-06 03:00 PM   #17 
     - I agree with expanding Medicaid/Medicare  OzarkDem   Feb-11-06 03:56 PM   #35 
  - Your idea sounds good... a bit like the one Ted Kennedy proposes  WePurrsevere   Feb-11-06 02:39 PM   #12 
  - I'm a strong supporter of single payer health care system, too. People who  pinto   Feb-11-06 02:48 PM   #13 
  - I think states should have a role in healthcare rather than fed. burden  savemefromdumbya   Feb-11-06 04:40 PM   #58 
     - Then you have uneven benefits from state to state  Lydia Leftcoast   Feb-12-06 09:22 AM   #89 
  - Corporate Party Democrats won't propose UHC.  Warren Stupidity   Feb-11-06 02:56 PM   #15 
  - My congressman - Sherrod Brown - supports it  OzarkDem   Feb-11-06 03:59 PM   #36 
  - They ALL support universal health coverage  sandnsea   Feb-11-06 04:29 PM   #52 
     - Actually they don't.  Warren Stupidity   Feb-12-06 07:33 AM   #83 
     - Americans have never been given the option of "choosing" single payer  Lydia Leftcoast   Feb-12-06 09:24 AM   #90 
  - There is a very, very simple solution to "Universal Health Care".  Rosco T.   Feb-11-06 03:22 PM   #28 
  - I support free housing for all  sandnsea   Feb-11-06 03:51 PM   #31 
  - How about because it will help millions of people get needed medical...  Solon   Feb-11-06 03:55 PM   #32 
  - An idea isn't medical care  sandnsea   Feb-11-06 04:01 PM   #38 
     - Why do you need to protect "free market" private insurance?  OzarkDem   Feb-11-06 04:07 PM   #41 
     - *I* don't, but that's where America is at  sandnsea   Feb-11-06 04:22 PM   #48 
        - I don't see how that is possible...  Solon   Feb-11-06 04:36 PM   #56 
        - Words mean something  sandnsea   Feb-11-06 04:41 PM   #59 
           - How the hell do you sell a Universal plan while telling the middle class..  Solon   Feb-11-06 04:51 PM   #65 
           - Pssst, NO he wouldn't stay with the private carrier  sandnsea   Feb-11-06 04:57 PM   #66 
              - OK, so instead of eliminating the Insurance companies by law...  Solon   Feb-11-06 05:05 PM   #70 
                 - That's how most countries are  sandnsea   Feb-11-06 05:16 PM   #72 
                 - Oh, and one more thing  sandnsea   Feb-11-06 05:25 PM   #76 
           - See my post #90, re: Oregon single payer initiative  Lydia Leftcoast   Feb-12-06 09:28 AM   #92 
        - There's the rub  tkmorris   Feb-11-06 05:00 PM   #67 
        - I see we don't have it  sandnsea   Feb-11-06 05:11 PM   #71 
        - Back that assertion up with some data.  Warren Stupidity   Feb-12-06 08:41 AM   #86 
     - Because it's just about as stupid as a "free market" in fire departments  eridani   Feb-14-06 01:27 AM   #97 
  - You missed the point, again  OzarkDem   Feb-11-06 04:04 PM   #40 
  - No, I face reality  sandnsea   Feb-11-06 04:25 PM   #49 
  - I'd like to know about these "good health care solutions that are on the  greyhound1966   Feb-11-06 04:29 PM   #51 
     - Exactly  sandnsea   Feb-11-06 04:31 PM   #53 
        - You make it too convoluted and no American will support it...  Solon   Feb-11-06 04:40 PM   #57 
        - No they won't  sandnsea   Feb-11-06 04:44 PM   #62 
        - You know nothing about me or my situation. I asked a simple  greyhound1966   Feb-11-06 04:43 PM   #60 
        - Hello??? They WON"T, that's my damned point  sandnsea   Feb-11-06 04:47 PM   #64 
        - The only proposals that are on the table "right now"  Lydia Leftcoast   Feb-12-06 09:30 AM   #93 
  - healthcare should be free at the point of use  savemefromdumbya   Feb-11-06 04:44 PM   #61 
  - The selling point is not ideological. It's cost effective to provide  pinto   Feb-11-06 04:08 PM   #42 
  - National subsidized health coverage  sandnsea   Feb-11-06 04:27 PM   #50 
     - By national subsidized health care, do you mean an individual Fed. subsidy  pinto   Feb-11-06 05:01 PM   #69 
        - Not sure what you mean  sandnsea   Feb-11-06 05:21 PM   #74 
           - Medicare is what you mean, if I read you right. Premium based on income,  pinto   Feb-11-06 06:00 PM   #77 
              - All in the perception of the people  sandnsea   Feb-11-06 06:37 PM   #78 
                 - Yeah, I see some of your points. We'll have to agree to disagree.  pinto   Feb-11-06 06:49 PM   #79 
                    - It IS national health care  sandnsea   Feb-11-06 06:55 PM   #80 
                       - ...  pinto   Feb-11-06 07:01 PM   #81 
  - All right  bluestateguy   Feb-11-06 05:21 PM   #73 
  - And I'd be right there beside you  sandnsea   Feb-11-06 05:22 PM   #75 
  - So it's all about you?  Lydia Leftcoast   Feb-12-06 09:26 AM   #91 
  - Yeah, well I'd happily take either....  NancyG   Feb-11-06 04:00 PM   #37 
  - need a system free at the point of use  savemefromdumbya   Feb-11-06 04:35 PM   #54 
  - I did not follow her program then, so read your summary with interest  question everything   Feb-11-06 07:12 PM   #82 
  - I compare it to the fire department, myself  eridani   Feb-14-06 01:36 AM   #98 
  - Healthcare the most glaring discrepancy in political representation  rman   Feb-12-06 07:44 AM   #84 
  - does Hillary still push Hillarycare?  Cocoa   Feb-12-06 08:02 AM   #85 
  - You have it exactly right, bluestateguy!  Lydia Leftcoast   Feb-12-06 09:17 AM   #87 
  - Name 1 other Dem who brought more attention to the health care problem  mtnsnake   Feb-12-06 10:01 AM   #94 
  - Harry Truman, for one  Lydia Leftcoast   Feb-12-06 10:53 PM   #95 
  - I agree with you. However--  eridani   Feb-14-06 01:23 AM   #96 
 

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