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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 08:46 AM
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9. I hope someday we will have an answer.
Edited on Tue Jan-03-06 08:48 AM by KoKo01
It seemed that Clintons could have fought back harder against the Right Wing throughout his Presidency. He gave the Repugs NAFTA and Welfare Reform and he gave away the Media to them in '96. For that we did get "Family Leave," "and Cobra" which helped many of us who were downsized keep and transfer our insurance. He was very good internationally although he's criticized by many on the Left for Kosovo bombing.

Whatever their problem was I'd like to know myself. It worries me that Hillary has aligned herself with Lieberman and the NeoCons in her support for Iraq Invasion and other policies. And, Clinton appearing with Poppy was also very depressing for those of us who hung in there through all the bashing Clinton took.

It's a puzzle. But, they aren't the only Democrats who could have done more and I wonder about those who left us here hanging through three stolen elections and subjected to a Media that does nothing but through crap in our Democratic faces trying to make us ashamed of our party.

I think the Dem grassroots is better just moving on from them and finding new candidates who are responsible to us and not to "Think Tanks" and compromise with the DLC.
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  -I am deeply disappointed in Bill and Hillary Clinton. I admired these radwriter0555  Jan-03-06 08:16 AM   #0 
  - Unwritten rule of ex-presidents and that is...  LynneSin   Jan-03-06 08:19 AM   #1 
  - BRAVO!  xultar   Jan-03-06 08:21 AM   #2 
  - So what cat has Hillary's tongue? I know they've  babylonsister   Jan-03-06 08:23 AM   #4 
  - No one's said much about it.  AZBlue   Jan-03-06 02:27 PM   #71 
     - I was only replying to the OP's statement. I usually  babylonsister   Jan-03-06 02:47 PM   #77 
        - Sorry, that wasn't meant just for you.  AZBlue   Jan-03-06 04:14 PM   #85 
  - BIG, BIG, HUGE mistake!  in_cog_ni_to   Jan-03-06 09:28 AM   #21 
  - What many people here seem to forget  Uncle Joe   Jan-03-06 01:32 PM   #59 
  - You're so right  wryter2000   Jan-03-06 10:04 AM   #27 
  - And what possessed him to use Donna Brazile as his  Cleita   Jan-03-06 12:04 PM   #37 
  - Jimmy Carter has been very critical as of late, but he should  Cleita   Jan-03-06 12:00 PM   #36 
  - you get the Lamest Excuse of the Century Award.  400Years   Jan-03-06 12:51 PM   #47 
     - It's not a lame excuse, it's a long standing custom  ItsTheMediaStupid   Jan-03-06 01:00 PM   #50 
     - So I guess Hillary really WAS President, after all?  stickdog   Jan-03-06 10:16 PM   #92 
     - Yeah, pretty lame.  Kralizec   Jan-03-06 02:47 PM   #76 
  - I know that this may sound callous...  Maddy McCall   Jan-03-06 08:22 AM   #3 
  - Bravo Maddy! I feel the same exact way too! His Presidency was a deep  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jan-03-06 09:07 AM   #11 
  - He also put an ad on christian RW radio bragging that he  jonnyblitz   Jan-03-06 10:18 AM   #30 
  - Right on, Maddy!  sfexpat2000   Jan-03-06 01:28 PM   #58 
  - me too  mopaul   Jan-03-06 08:24 AM   #5 
  - Okay, this one gets to me  zalinda   Jan-03-06 09:16 AM   #15 
  - and if you're going to defend them, try picking something relevant.  greyhound1966   Jan-03-06 09:35 AM   #23 
  - Worse yet in my book, mo, once he was out of office he said in interview  Beam Me Up   Jan-03-06 10:23 AM   #31 
     - exactly what could Bill Clinton have done about pot prohibition?  onenote   Jan-03-06 01:12 PM   #56 
     - What would the Republicans do--impeach him?  High Plains   Jan-03-06 03:04 PM   #81 
     - meanwhile, back in the real world  onenote   Jan-03-06 04:51 PM   #86 
     - We are where we are today because of this kind of "reasoning".  Beam Me Up   Jan-03-06 08:56 PM   #88 
        - So it was in Bill Clinton's interest to eliminate black voters?  onenote   Jan-04-06 12:08 AM   #94 
           - Reply:  Beam Me Up   Jan-04-06 01:59 AM   #96 
              - aren't most marijuana arrests for violations of state law?  onenote   Jan-04-06 09:06 AM   #98 
                 - Most state laws follow the federal scheduling statues  Beam Me Up   Jan-04-06 10:18 AM   #99 
     - Then you haven't a clue what the 'average American' wanted...  txaslftist   Jan-03-06 01:33 PM   #60 
        - Reply:  Beam Me Up   Jan-03-06 09:44 PM   #91 
  - I Disagree  Mark E. Smith   Jan-03-06 08:26 AM   #6 
  - It's not about bashing, we have bush for that. It's about expressing my  radwriter0555   Jan-03-06 08:33 AM   #7 
  - You live in some sort of fantasy world if you really think  apple_ridge   Jan-03-06 09:02 AM   #10 
  - A revolution is the only thing that will take out the bush regime.  radwriter0555   Jan-03-06 09:14 AM   #14 
  - You are so right!!!!  chaumont58   Jan-03-06 09:40 AM   #24 
  - I remember shortly after 9/11, when the * admin  TheDebbieDee   Jan-03-06 08:44 AM   #8 
  - Senator Boxer gets crucified too.. What's criticism? Stand up and take it  radwriter0555   Jan-03-06 09:16 AM   #16 
  - That was Kerry who said it early 2003 and was lambasted by the press.  blm   Jan-03-06 09:18 AM   #18 
  - I follow the news pretty closely and absolutely  karynnj   Jan-03-06 02:42 PM   #75 
  - Bush Knew: "Times" magazine had the 9/11 accusation written on its cover  oasis   Jan-03-06 10:23 PM   #93 
  - I hope someday we will have an answer.  KoKo01   Jan-03-06 08:46 AM   #9 
  - ambition  ROakes1019   Jan-03-06 09:13 AM   #13 
  - Senator Clinton has made no talk of running for president. The republicans  radwriter0555   Jan-03-06 09:17 AM   #17 
     - IMO, its naive to say that she is not running for president.  Freedom_Aflaim   Jan-03-06 12:15 PM   #39 
  - And, thank you  zalinda   Jan-03-06 09:32 AM   #22 
     - I think you missed my point that grassroots Dem activists need to work  KoKo01   Jan-03-06 09:51 AM   #26 
  - I recently heard a television pundit  democrank   Jan-03-06 09:09 AM   #12 
  - And adherence to the traits that you've written gets one labeled a  tnlefty   Jan-03-06 09:27 AM   #20 
  - It's clear to me that something is going on behind the scenes, and that  tasteblind   Jan-03-06 09:24 AM   #19 
  - Both are power hungry DLC panderers.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jan-03-06 09:46 AM   #25 
  - LOL. They should have stood up to be villified by the propogandists  linazelle   Jan-03-06 10:08 AM   #28 
  - THANK YOU! A sane voice...  AZBlue   Jan-03-06 02:31 PM   #72 
  - I am thoroughly convinced...  TwoSparkles   Jan-03-06 10:13 AM   #29 
  - me too, they've all had their lives threatened, don't put it past them  mopaul   Jan-03-06 11:09 AM   #34 
  - I think the Clintons are good people  Strawman   Jan-03-06 10:41 AM   #32 
  - The right wing media had it in for Clinton from day 1  ItsTheMediaStupid   Jan-03-06 01:12 PM   #55 
     - You really think...  Strawman   Jan-03-06 01:24 PM   #57 
  - Bill Clinton was a warmongering conservative.  Yollam   Jan-03-06 10:52 AM   #33 
  - His presidency was much better than what preceded or followed it  ItsTheMediaStupid   Jan-03-06 01:06 PM   #54 
  - Why don't you put your baseless insinuations where the sun don't...  Yollam   Jan-03-06 01:35 PM   #61 
     - So you're not a freeper, just a useless Utopian - Cheers  ItsTheMediaStupid   Jan-03-06 02:06 PM   #69 
  - bingo....  mike_c   Jan-03-06 02:41 PM   #74 
     - Of course final blame has to rest with Poppy.  Yollam   Jan-03-06 02:53 PM   #79 
  - Wow. More CLinton Bashing on this thread  Freedom_Aflaim   Jan-03-06 11:51 AM   #35 
  - I don't/won't go to freeperville..  Chicken George   Jan-03-06 12:21 PM   #40 
  - To be fair, its far worse there  Freedom_Aflaim   Jan-03-06 12:48 PM   #46 
  - So to post here you have to be a Clinton apologist?  Yollam   Jan-03-06 01:44 PM   #63 
  - No one's going to ban you for that.  tasteblind   Jan-03-06 02:01 PM   #67 
  - Clinton Apologist?  Freedom_Aflaim   Jan-03-06 02:02 PM   #68 
  - I don't consider myself a Clinton basher by any stretch.  Yollam   Jan-03-06 02:49 PM   #78 
  - Reliance on "marketplace" over "regulation" began with Pres. Carter  onenote   Jan-03-06 02:40 PM   #73 
  - I thought they were on our side, but actions speak louder than words.  radwriter0555   Jan-03-06 02:08 PM   #70 
     - IMO its just frustration  Freedom_Aflaim   Jan-03-06 03:03 PM   #80 
  - Just one person's observation,  The Witch   Jan-03-06 12:10 PM   #38 
  - I was dissappointed in Bill when he got the BJ from Monica...  txaslftist   Jan-03-06 12:26 PM   #41 
  - KUDOS..  desi   Jan-03-06 12:32 PM   #42 
  - Have you read Clinton's autobiography?  txaslftist   Jan-03-06 12:40 PM   #44 
     - Not yet..  desi   Jan-03-06 01:04 PM   #52 
  - great post!  paulk   Jan-03-06 01:06 PM   #53 
  - Great post Txaslftist! n/t  Stockholm   Jan-04-06 04:18 AM   #97 
  - I agree--Article on "The Clinton Legacy"  barbaraann   Jan-03-06 12:32 PM   #43 
  - This is what I remember..  desi   Jan-03-06 12:45 PM   #45 
     - And all of that is now being ruthlessly and systematically dismantled.  barbaraann   Jan-03-06 12:53 PM   #48 
     - Thank you, Desi. And to all who say Clinton was "Republican lite"...  txaslftist   Jan-03-06 01:51 PM   #64 
  - Lay off, it wouldn't have made a differnence.  FDR33   Jan-03-06 12:54 PM   #49 
  - LOL  BoneDaddy   Jan-03-06 01:00 PM   #51 
  - the bushes tried to kill the clintons before they even became president  flordehinojos   Jan-03-06 01:44 PM   #62 
  - Well, hell. I'm taking up for them.  txaslftist   Jan-03-06 01:52 PM   #65 
  - yes ... he was a great president ... i loved his presidency...  flordehinojos   Jan-03-06 02:00 PM   #66 
  - So why would clinton embrace the people who tried to kill him? That is THE  radwriter0555   Jan-03-06 03:16 PM   #82 
  - Im also disappointed in the Clintons  Ksec   Jan-03-06 03:23 PM   #83 
  - If you can't tell Clinton from a Republican, you need to bone up.  txaslftist   Jan-03-06 03:59 PM   #84 
  - The PNAC and DLC share a common heritage  AntiFascist   Jan-03-06 05:49 PM   #87 
  - Don't fall victim to battered spouse syndrome  Malikshah   Jan-03-06 08:59 PM   #89 
  - Welcome to reality.  ermoore   Jan-03-06 09:28 PM   #90 
  - If you're disappointed, you weren't paying attention.  Spider Jerusalem   Jan-04-06 12:30 AM   #95 
 

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